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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 09:46 AM
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17. It is a legitimate appeal to the principle of similar circumstances.
And you have shown no meaningful difference. You outsource your battery recycling to others. The US is doing the very same thing on an international scale. In this case there is no moral or legal obligation for the consumer, whether it is an individual or a nation, to perform the actual recycling themselves.

According to the familiar meme you are repeating, it's always the responsibility of the US when there's a problem in Mexico, and never the fault of the Mexicans themselves. I don't buy into that.

I don't think Mexicans are so incompetent that they incapable of running their own country. And I don't believe they want to be governed like a US colony. Nobody is forcing them to take these used batteries and the US recycling jobs that go with them. But in your misguided empathy, you want to deny them that option in order to protect them from themselves.

As you have noted, we promote safe recycling standards in the USA. Other nations, even infamously polluting China, are taking their own steps to protect themselves from lead contamination. I want Mexico to do the same and I think this is a reasonable expectation.
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  -Spent Batteries From U.S. Put Mexicans Health at Risk alp227  Dec-08-11 07:53 PM   #0 
  - I didn't know there was a market for exploding Chinese cars. n/t  Ian David   Dec-08-11 07:55 PM   #1 
  - Is there any other kind?  bluedigger   Dec-08-11 08:10 PM   #2 
  - E-waste "recycling" in places like Africa and India is horrific  IDemo   Dec-08-11 08:44 PM   #3 
  - Lead in used U.S. batteries put Mexicans at risk  Judi Lynn   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #4 
  - A good, blunt heads up to Mexican regulators to up their recycling standards.  pinto   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #5 
  - Strange, how the lead in used Mexican batteries don't seem to put them at risk.  Lasher   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #6 
  - Strange how the US consumes damned near everything, inc. lead...  TheMadMonk   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #7 
     - Everybody wants to consume.  Lasher   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #8 
        - True enough. But far too many Americans deliberately OVERCONSUME...  TheMadMonk   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #10 
           - Wait a minute, Mexicans want those used batteries.  Lasher   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #11 
              - So anyone who's desperate enough to risk their own lives for your...  TheMadMonk   Dec-09-11 03:56 PM   #12 
                 - So what do you do with your own depleted batteries?  Lasher   Dec-09-11 08:50 PM   #13 
                    - Do you really want a pissing match? Stop deliberately misinterpretting...  TheMadMonk   Dec-10-11 06:12 AM   #14 
                       - It is a legitimate appeal to the principle of similar circumstances.  Lasher   Dec-10-11 09:46 AM   #17 
                          - I outsource to a responsible recycler. The US outsources ALWAYS...  TheMadMonk   Dec-10-11 07:56 PM   #18 
                             - Australias big export lead poison  Lasher   Dec-12-11 05:35 AM   #20 
  - Its America's fault for not attaching Environmental Rules to NAFTA  FreakinDJ   Dec-09-11 06:13 AM   #9 
  - This is Mexico's fault, not ours. Mexico is a oligarchy, has been since before Pancho Villa.  Drahthaardogs   Dec-10-11 06:28 AM   #15 
  - We need a revolution also.  Hotler   Dec-10-11 08:47 AM   #16 
  - Spent batteries from Mexico too. n/t  tabasco   Dec-10-11 10:45 PM   #19 

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