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Thu Dec-08-11 05:31 PM
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| 52. I cannot take an adult dosage of Tylenol |
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because I am only 100 lbs. I take "children's" dosage of OTC meds. It took me many years, and adverse reactions, to learn this. Hell, I have had DOCTORS over medicate me as an adult. It's your SIZE not your AGE that determines the dosage. Don't have a medical degree but life experience has taught me that.
While I don't like the religious undercurrents of objections to Plan B, I can understand the need for SOME oversight on this. I also had problems taking the pill decades ago. Trial and Error. I couldn't the combination pill (bleeding) because of the estrogen. I took the mini pill. NOBODY can know THAT, not even doctors, until you have a reaction to it. I would hope a licensed pharmacist, non-religious one, would be the best person to dispense these to VERY YOUNG girls. I did take the pill when I was 10 for amenorrhea and had a bad reaction to it, but again, even a doctor cannot know this beforehand. SOME women WILL have reactions, but that doesn't mean ALL women will and that we should go overboard because of the few. Greater good applies.
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| -Obama agrees with Sebelius on decision to limit morning-after pill |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-08-11 12:07 PM |
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An adverse effect -- as opposed to a preganancy, you mean? |
rocktivity |
Dec-08-11 12:08 PM |
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Apparently |
Harmony Blue |
Dec-08-11 12:17 PM |
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But are they in touch with what voters want? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-08-11 12:20 PM |
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They are in touch with dodging an issue that would drive right-wing voters to the polls. |
Lance_Boyle |
Dec-08-11 02:02 PM |
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Left-wing voters don't have anywhere to go, and Obama knows it |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-08-11 02:18 PM |
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Agreed. But it's not 'voters in the middle' who |
Lance_Boyle |
Dec-08-11 02:53 PM |
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Wanna bet? |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 09:18 AM |
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Not going to happen. People are smart enough to remember what happened in 2000 |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-09-11 10:20 AM |
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But that wasn't your claim, was it? |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 10:33 AM |
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Fine, but they aren't going to go there |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-09-11 12:32 PM |
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No place to go - as in there ain't nobody worth voting for, so |
24601 |
Dec-10-11 11:04 PM |
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I think it was a very wise decision. n/t. |
okieinpain |
Dec-09-11 03:42 PM |
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I'm guessing that, if polled in 1840, |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 09:21 AM |
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So, you are equating children having to get a doctor's prescription with slavery? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-09-11 10:21 AM |
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Is there something about inalieable rights |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 10:35 AM |
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When did access to the morning-after pill for kids w/o a prescription become an inalienable right? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-09-11 12:34 PM |
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Roe v. Wade. 1973 |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 03:12 PM |
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fuck obama. coward. bastard. all the unwanted babies. more change to believe in |
roguevalley |
Dec-08-11 01:53 PM |
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So he would rather his daughters become pregnant than use a safe drug to prevent it? What a TOOL |
Vincardog |
Dec-08-11 12:10 PM |
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I may be a concern troll but do you really trust the for profit pharmaceutical industry |
alp227 |
Dec-08-11 12:14 PM |
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The industry and the government both said this is safe and effective. This is a POLITICAL decision. |
Vincardog |
Dec-08-11 12:20 PM |
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Safe and effective when used properly. I think the concern here is that |
hedgehog |
Dec-08-11 12:22 PM |
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Your concern is noted. I believe the concern was that of BO trying like a jilted lover to get the |
Vincardog |
Dec-08-11 12:27 PM |
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Tylenol will kill you if used improperly, and it's very easy to use improperly |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 01:11 PM |
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Am I supposed to believe |
xxqqqzme |
Dec-08-11 07:57 PM |
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Thank you Vincardog |
Carolina |
Dec-08-11 12:23 PM |
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I suppose that he or Michelle would take their daughter to a doctor and get an Rx |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-08-11 12:16 PM |
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I suspect most of the young women |
Betty |
Dec-08-11 12:14 PM |
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Can anyone here guarantee that a 10 year old understands how to |
hedgehog |
Dec-08-11 12:15 PM |
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There is no guarantee an 18 year old can understand |
Harmony Blue |
Dec-08-11 12:18 PM |
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The law has to be written to cover the majority of cases, not the extremes. |
hedgehog |
Dec-08-11 12:21 PM |
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No but we set certain limits |
sharp_stick |
Dec-08-11 12:21 PM |
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sometimes some of the arguments on du are a little crazy. it's like |
okieinpain |
Dec-09-11 03:46 PM |
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You put it in your mouth and swallow, is that too difficult for people where you come from? |
Vincardog |
Dec-08-11 12:21 PM |
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How many of em? |
sharp_stick |
Dec-08-11 12:24 PM |
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Dec-08-11 12:31 PM |
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No not really |
sharp_stick |
Dec-08-11 12:41 PM |
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a kid that's 10, 11 or 12 who's just been assaulted by a "friend" in school should report to the |
Vincardog |
Dec-08-11 12:46 PM |
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There ya go |
sharp_stick |
Dec-08-11 12:54 PM |
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So you are defending BO's POLITICAL decision because of concern that "just a few extra Plan B pills |
Vincardog |
Dec-08-11 12:59 PM |
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I'm sorry |
sharp_stick |
Dec-08-11 01:01 PM |
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You could say the same thing about aspirin. |
thesquanderer |
Dec-08-11 12:38 PM |
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True |
sharp_stick |
Dec-08-11 12:57 PM |
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You are so out of touch |
Harmony Blue |
Dec-08-11 12:35 PM |
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Can you guarantee that a 10 year old understand how to use Tylenol? |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 01:15 PM |
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Right! They could choke on the water when they swallow it! |
Divernan |
Dec-08-11 01:20 PM |
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Bummer. I just emailed the White House via Feminist Majority` |
alp227 |
Dec-08-11 12:15 PM |
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How? |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 09:28 AM |
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Has the drug been tested on pediatric populations? |
sharp_stick |
Dec-08-11 12:16 PM |
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Yes, the drug maker tested it on a group of 11 to 16 year olds. |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 01:19 PM |
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Exactly |
Harmony Blue |
Dec-08-11 02:22 PM |
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Where/how did they find this many test subjects?! |
FloriTexan |
Dec-08-11 04:42 PM |
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One can test the safety without testing it's birth control efficacy. |
jeff47 |
Dec-09-11 01:06 PM |
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This is the old republican/fundamentalist attitude. |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-08-11 12:34 PM |
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You still can't get the pill without a prescription |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-08-11 12:37 PM |
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You don't know the difference between a prescription requirement & an age restriction? Sheesh! |
Divernan |
Dec-08-11 01:27 PM |
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I'm quite aware of the difference |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-08-11 01:52 PM |
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And just what does that have to do with my post? |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-08-11 09:27 PM |
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***crickets*** |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-08-11 09:52 PM |
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. . . |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 09:30 AM |
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Before you ask. Yes I'm a disgusting person. |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-09-11 09:34 AM |
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The establishment sucks, period. |
krabigirl |
Dec-09-11 10:45 AM |
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I suspected as much. |
Lance_Boyle |
Dec-08-11 12:43 PM |
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more in depth article by Washington Post |
alp227 |
Dec-08-11 12:56 PM |
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"separation of government and state" - methinks you have a typo. (nt) |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 01:20 PM |
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fixed |
alp227 |
Dec-08-11 01:23 PM |
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I agree with the decision too. n/t |
deacon |
Dec-08-11 01:27 PM |
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"We, the undersigned, pledge to break the law by giving our Morning After Pill.. |
Shoe Horn |
Dec-08-11 01:30 PM |
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Ugh. |
progressoid |
Dec-08-11 02:21 PM |
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I believe this could be abused by some minors... |
FloriTexan |
Dec-08-11 03:18 PM |
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But then sometimes it's the parent that's responsible for the pregnancy in the first place.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 05:12 PM |
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That's another problem altogether. |
FloriTexan |
Dec-08-11 05:34 PM |
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Two words.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 06:00 PM |
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Nothing says that a parent has to buy it for them |
loyalsister |
Dec-10-11 10:54 PM |
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I cannot take an adult dosage of Tylenol |
HockeyMom |
Dec-08-11 05:31 PM |
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Common sense prevails... |
Bogart |
Dec-08-11 06:19 PM |
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you need to meet some teens who are pregnant with no skills, no hs diplomas |
wordpix |
Dec-08-11 06:39 PM |
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I have yet to hear anyone make a logical argument for governments to sweep away parental rights |
Bogart |
Dec-08-11 07:15 PM |
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Welcome to DU.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 08:50 PM |
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Übertriebene auf den Punkt zu machen |
Bogart |
Dec-09-11 08:40 AM |
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Ja, genau. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-09-11 09:05 AM |
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parental rights I'm for but some parents don't act responsibly--cases in point: |
wordpix |
Dec-08-11 09:08 PM |
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"If Plan B is safe, put it on the shelf." |
Bogart |
Dec-09-11 08:33 AM |
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OK, YOU pay for the kids born to irresponsible teenage girls living with irresponsible parents |
wordpix |
Dec-09-11 07:47 PM |
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hyperbole, much? We're talking about a safe drug & you bring up Nazi Germany? |
wordpix |
Dec-08-11 09:52 PM |
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Sometimes it is necessary to exaggerate to make a point. |
Bogart |
Dec-09-11 08:37 AM |
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however, in this case it makes your argument look ridiculous |
wordpix |
Dec-09-11 07:40 PM |
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Parent's rights only extend as far as it doesn't endanger their child's health and welfare.... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-09-11 03:56 PM |
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Indeed, I exaggerated. However, the state and Teva Pharmaceuticals do not have the right |
Bogart |
Dec-09-11 04:32 PM |
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What rights are those, the right to deny their child health care? The right to violate their... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-09-11 04:37 PM |
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As minors, by law, children do not have the autonomy, or the right |
Bogart |
Dec-09-11 05:44 PM |
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Statist, what are you, a dumbass Libertarian? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-09-11 05:55 PM |
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I agree with your premise that a responsible society must have the means to protect children |
Bogart |
Dec-10-11 08:43 AM |
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"a wise policy should focus on the irresponsible behavior of the few" |
Occulus |
Dec-10-11 08:54 AM |
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How is it supposed to focus on the few, we aren't psychic... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-10-11 04:15 PM |
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"children do not have the intelligence, experience..." & therefore they must bear children? |
wordpix |
Dec-09-11 07:51 PM |
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"Or, the newly pregnant girl is free to get Plan B, a safe, FDA approved drug, off the shelf." |
Bogart |
Dec-10-11 08:54 AM |
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you're concerned with the cost of an over the counter drug but not of supporting a child for 18 yrs? |
wordpix |
Dec-11-11 04:05 PM |
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Dec-08-11 11:23 PM |
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. . . |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-09-11 09:34 AM |
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God-fucking-dammit!!! When will this guy get a clue... |
truebrit71 |
Dec-09-11 12:50 PM |
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Is he entering the repuke primary?! |
KamaAina |
Dec-09-11 03:52 PM |
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Awful. This will create more unintended pregnancy and nothing more. |
BlueIris |
Dec-09-11 11:59 PM |
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As a dude, the prez should |
femrap |
Dec-11-11 11:55 PM |
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unfortunately, it's the men in positions of power - just look at the presidents, Congress |
wordpix |
Dec-12-11 09:03 PM |
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Did you know that OWS |
femrap |
Dec-12-11 09:36 PM |
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