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Occupy_2012 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:28 PM
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82. There's some stuff being left out of this story.
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 05:31 PM by Occupy_2012
I read elsewhere that she had contacted an ombudsman to help her. This implies she wasn't being helped and had a complaint. It also implies there's a witness somewhere who knows what really happened. You have to understand, "case closed" is a code word for "could not complete the forms or provide all documents within a certain time limit." It doesn't mean anybody thought her kids had food to eat by any means.

A relative applied for food stamps a few years ago. Judging by that experience, she may have had to supply birth certificates for herself and children, a current state ID, complete proof of all bills and bank accounts, letter from landlord stating rent, etc. She had come from another state (Ohio) and if she needed to get copies of these docs, she would have to wait until they were sent. My relative needed a new copy of her birth certificate. It was found to be invalid because one letter in her name was printed wrong. When she went to have her license renewed, the DMV clerk tried to have her arrested on the spot and charged with a felony (perjury) when she showed up with a copy of the same b.c she's had her whole life.

She was born in another state, kept mailing away rush applications to have it corrected, and they lost every one, at about $50 a pop. She kept calling, they kept saying they "never received it," in spite of the fact they signed for them every time and she had proof. Meanwhile, no official state ID, which made her ineligible for any benefits at all. She couldn't drive for the entire year it took for them to finally update one letter and mail a copy. We were told this is all because of new "homeland security" rules, and thousands of other people had the same experience. Prior to 9/11, birth certificates were often mis-spelled or had errors, and it was fine. Now it's a *felony* to try to use the same old birth certificate you've used your whole life. It doesn't come up unless you apply for something new.

If this lady was told her documents were insufficient, there was no point in going back because they were not going to help her under any circumstances. If she needed docs from Ohio and couldn't get them, she could do nothing. Obviously if she needed food stamps, she didn't have the money to pay a lot of expensive document fees.

From my experience with my relative's food stamps application, they closed her case several times, for no reason, then a different clerk would come along and say they had no idea why it was closed. They started paying some benefits, then suddenly stopped and said she lied and could be arrested for perjury, because she filled out the forms saying she had no income. She didn't. Neither of us had any idea what they were talking about. She was too sick to work. The last clerk had told her she was absolutely entitled. Nothing changed.

I ended up supporting her for 2 years while she slowly went through the (disability) system. Without me, my relative would have had no income, food or place to stay for 2 years. What is a mother with 2 children supposed to do in that circumstance?

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