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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 05:55 PM
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10. Where's the pony?
I want my pony.
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  -Obama decries inequality in speech previewing 2012 Playinghardball  Dec-06-11 03:40 PM   #0 
  - Do I still have to eat my peas?  MannyGoldstein   Dec-06-11 03:51 PM   #1 
  - Yes. Peas give you your federal daily requirement of issue ducking condescension  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:43 AM   #92 
  - He didn't mean it. I can tell. n/t  Davis_X_Machina   Dec-06-11 03:55 PM   #2 
  - Don't be silly. He means each and every on e of his campaign speeches and always has.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:58 AM   #95 
     - As a DU donor-member....  Davis_X_Machina   Dec-07-11 08:39 AM   #124 
  - Where is the part where Obama offered  Vinnie From Indy   Dec-06-11 03:59 PM   #3 
  - And out come the the usual suspects!  savalez   Dec-07-11 02:02 PM   #130 
  - He talked like he hadn't been the President during the last 3 years.  russspeakeasy   Dec-06-11 04:03 PM   #4 
  - Yes, if only Republicans hadn't forced him...  vi5   Dec-06-11 04:21 PM   #5 
  - ^^ This!!  LeftHandPath   Dec-06-11 04:26 PM   #6 
  - +1  Maven   Dec-06-11 04:38 PM   #7 
  - Actions.  paparush   Dec-06-11 05:56 PM   #11 
  - +1  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:51 AM   #94 
  - Boy, the threadcrappers are hard at work bringing the right-wing memes.  TheWraith   Dec-06-11 05:05 PM   #8 
  - here are some more "right-wing memes" for your list..  frylock   Dec-06-11 05:18 PM   #9 
  - "Fool me once"  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:36 AM   #99 
  - Where's the pony?  LiberalEsto   Dec-06-11 05:55 PM   #10 
  - Yup. That is one of many memes from the other side.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:37 AM   #100 
  - Obama Strikes Populist Chord With Speech in Heartland.  elleng   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #12 
  - Please remind us who the President has been for the last 3 years.  russspeakeasy   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #13 
  - That's bullshit. We can list all the things he has done for the middle class but you'll just dismiss  Pirate Smile   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #14 
  - 1+++ Fascism always assumes that it owns reality & what it doesn't own can be acquired through power  patrice   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #16 
  - Thanks  elleng   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #17 
  - I've heard the speeches. I'm sure that I will now  russspeakeasy   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #19 
  - I, for one, didn't know until 2 days ago that the Health Care Reform requires Insurance  Cal33   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #23 
     - There are many many more things,  elleng   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #25 
     - Obama preserved private health care industry -- according to Rahm ...  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #30 
     - one would think they were listening to team limbaugh, like 50 mil a week do. but likely they got it  certainot   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #80 
     - People see Obama and his accomplishments through different prisms.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 02:44 AM   #109 
        - Thanks for your attempt at rationality, No Elephs.  elleng   Dec-07-11 10:10 AM   #126 
     - Some commentators have said that 80% requirement is intended  tblue37   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #41 
     - I'm all for the single payer system. I hope it succeeds.  Cal33   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #55 
     - I like that idea too, that is, make them do what they're supposed to do,  elleng   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #63 
     - You may want to take a look at reply 97.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:23 AM   #98 
        - Right, surely they can 'endure' with 'mere' 20%.  elleng   Dec-07-11 01:42 AM   #101 
           - They're making it on a fraction of 20% now, but the mandate is coming, so things will look up.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:48 AM   #102 
     - Self delete. Meant to edit this and somehow reposted instead.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:02 AM   #96 
     - Either those commentators did not do their homework or they are propagandists  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:20 AM   #97 
     - I'll admit, I had forgotten that magnificent gem  tavalon   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #78 
     - 20% is very generous, esp. if you make under 6% profit now. Please see the article at this link:  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:40 AM   #91 
     - I don't think the 20% (15% for large ins. cos.) is ALL profit. Don't forget, the ins. cos.  Cal33   Dec-07-11 01:42 PM   #128 
        - Think about it. Here's one of the most dishonest and life threatening  truedelphi   Dec-07-11 01:49 PM   #129 
           - The insurance cos. aren't the only people keeping records. The medical people  Cal33   Dec-08-11 06:30 AM   #132 
     - Two questions:  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 02:27 AM   #107 
        - I'm not in the insurance field, and haven't gone into the definitions. About the  Cal33   Dec-08-11 06:49 AM   #133 
  - You got a "AMEN and DAMN RIGHT!" from this corner!  66 dmhlt   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #44 
  - Right -- that's why poverty has increased during Obama's term --  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #72 
  - As a measure that list is laughable.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 02:37 AM   #108 
  - have a ginger ale. you'll feel better.  dionysus   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #27 
  - Obama thinks he can put the "Campaign '08" mask back on again -- ? ROFL  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #28 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #32 
  - Every other nation has universal health care, but it's us and not Obama who are "crazy" ... ???  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #34 
     - And just what Congress is going to PASS it? Did you ever take middle school civics?  RBInMaine   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #37 
        - No Congress ... when Obama took Single Payer "OFF THE TABLE" ....  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #40 
        - During his campaign, Obama said single payer could never work in the US==NOT  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:52 AM   #104 
  - Why wouldn't he?  tblue   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #57 
     - Evidently it works for people who have amnesia -- or who are willing to delude themselves -- !! ???  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #74 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #31 
  - is there a list of specific observable and measurable proposals in this speech? nt  msongs   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #15 
  - Clue. Stay away from poker games. nt  patrice   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #18 
  - oh he is bluffing. thanks for the warning :-) nt  msongs   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #22 
  - no but he looked good..... nice smile.... n/t  IamK   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #60 
  - Watch what they do, not what they say.  LeftHandPath   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #20 
  - I like this guy. Where the hell has he been for the last 3 years.  Autumn   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #21 
  - Out passing more PROGRESSIVE legislation than we've seen since LBJ. Just ask Maddow.  RBInMaine   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #33 
     - Three new trade agreements, more money for MIC, flying drones over Pakistan ... "progressive" .. ???  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #36 
     - SCHIP, Fair Pay, Wall St. Reform, Healthcare, the MOST green energy investment EVER... and if you  RBInMaine   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #39 
        - Obama: "Oil rigs don't spill anymore" ...!! Arctic drilling!! ROFL  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #42 
        - Maddow wants Obama a re-elected. That does not mean his legislation is progressive.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 01:58 AM   #105 
     - You think so?  Autumn   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #52 
     - Not true. Just ask Keith.  russspeakeasy   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #62 
     - I saw what you did there.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:33 AM   #90 
     - Why would we ask Maddow? We've been following along every day since since 2007.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #69 
  - Teddy roosevelt. One of the top three presidents in history.  Muskypundit   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #24 
  - He needed someone new. He's already done Abe Lincoln, FDR and JFK.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #70 
  - Talk is cheap. n/t  Earth_First   Dec-07-11 12:31 AM   #26 
  - Obama health reform bill still better than anything Clinton did.  SleeplessinSoCal   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #29 
  - Right -- if you IGNORE that essentially it preserved the PRIVATE health care industry -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #38 
  - For now. But when they can't profit enough, they will slink away, and we will end up with single-pay  tblue37   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #43 
  - Obama trampled "single payer" in back room deals with private H/C industry --  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #49 
  - Have you seen the benefits of the reform bill? Or are you only going to harp on the negative?  SleeplessinSoCal   Dec-08-11 12:45 AM   #131 
  - .  Occulus   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #81 
  - He said he was in favor of single when he was in Illinois, However, when he ran for POTUS  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:33 AM   #89 
  - I hope you are correct, but I think you are underestimating the ability  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:33 AM   #87 
  - did you miss no elephant's remarks upthread?  newspeak   Dec-07-11 08:11 AM   #121 
  - Preserved? It bailed out and protected the health insurers and the private health care industry.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #73 
  - I am getting sick of this...  IthinkThereforeIAM   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #79 
     - Well, the first step is to ask for it and the second is to fight like hell for it .  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #86 
  - Yet, worse than Nixon's bill, which T. Kennedy killed, much to his lifelong regret.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #71 
  - limbaugh has a trophy for defeating clinton HC, just as he does for single payer, and PO, but it's  certainot   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #82 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #35 
  - and words posted on a forum is even cheaper n/t  Bodhi BloodWave   Dec-07-11 04:46 AM   #110 
     - Words are all that is possible on a message board.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 07:30 AM   #113 
  - Really good speech, imo. Obama laid out the broad lines in our political tug-of-wars.  pinto   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #45 
  - Agreed. Now let us hope that he doesn't start backpedaling  Doctor_J   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #47 
  - Ah -- "Populist" ... after making it a dirty word, Dems want to bring it back?  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #50 
     - Disagree that the Third Way controls the party, especially as recent political events develop.  pinto   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #53 
        - Lots of info on DU says otherwise -- including Jonathan Cowan on C-span ....  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #67 
        - DLC took over the Party. Whether OWS will change that remains to be seen.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #85 
  - Ah, that liberal NYT  Doctor_J   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #46 
  - Attack on the rich equals "war on drugs". Sounds good,  russspeakeasy   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #66 
  - Obama does need to repeat the numbers over and over again  newspeak   Dec-07-11 01:30 PM   #127 
  - Obama has only worked to preserve the elite wealth -- the rich - !! Wall Street -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #68 
  - We've seen this movie before.  MARK52   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #48 
  - Actually, both Obama and HRC put Reagan on their top ten U.S. Presidents ever list.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 02:19 AM   #106 
     - I remember McBride from amnesty international  newspeak   Dec-08-11 10:58 AM   #134 
  - Well kidos to him for going there to make that speech. If only he could convince them to vote for  craigmatic   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #51 
  - Yeah, his energy might be better spent rallying his base  Doctor_J   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #54 
     - Promises  MARK52   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #59 
     - According to a lot of people at DU, his base is solidly with him and DU  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 07:59 AM   #117 
  - the "Obama Scandal List" tells you how much Obama cares about populism  TMED   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #56 
  - I almost didn't click given your low post count  Doctor_J   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #58 
  - Now just back populist legislation and we're good  SHRED   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #61 
  - For all you skeptics - thank goodness someone is actually saying it.  gtar100   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #64 
  - Lack of ideals in us has not been the problem so far. Neither has the inability of Obama and his  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 07:36 AM   #114 
  - Anyone who votes republican that is NOT a millionaire is voting AGAINST him or herself  judesedit   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #65 
  - And what you would say about any Democrat who doesn't see that  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 07:46 AM   #115 
  - Populism will soon become the new "-ism" to attack  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #75 
  - He's a great campaigner, I'll give him that  tavalon   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #76 
  - I agree with you completely!  DiehardLiberal   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #83 
  - Another speech with no actions.  FunMe   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #77 
  - 1.9% surtax on incomes over a million?  many a good man   Dec-07-11 12:32 AM   #84 
  - And the people making only a half a million PER YEAR won't be asked for  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 08:03 AM   #118 
  - Here is a cord ya'll can tug on...  wundermaus   Dec-07-11 12:33 AM   #88 
  - The Obama campaign was probably speed dialing the banks to let them know this speech was mere  Citizen Worker   Dec-07-11 01:52 AM   #103 
     - They don;t have to. Wall Street and the rich understand how the game is played.  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 08:05 AM   #119 
  - Triangulate me once...  JCMach1   Dec-07-11 12:48 AM   #93 
  - where is his populist/progressive filled house and senate?  Bodhi BloodWave   Dec-07-11 04:50 AM   #111 
     - If you evoke TR, expect comparisons...  JCMach1   Dec-07-11 05:12 AM   #112 
     - He had the largest number of Democrats any Democrat is going to get  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 08:08 AM   #120 
  - I have been critical of obama, especially his choices in cabinet  newspeak   Dec-07-11 07:52 AM   #116 
  - This is not news to anyone in politics, esp. national politics. Obama knew it  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 08:16 AM   #122 
     - I understand no elephants  newspeak   Dec-07-11 08:56 AM   #125 
  - Well, as usual, one group professes that Obama walks on water and the nation will perish unless  No Elephants   Dec-07-11 08:33 AM   #123 

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