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Wed Dec-07-11 12:31 AM
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| 20. Watch what they do, not what they say. |
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Obama has supported the 1% and the war machine for 3 years.
I'll believe the rhetoric when I see real action, like firing Geithner, Bernanke, Holder, and putting career prosecutors in financial regulation positions.
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| -Obama decries inequality in speech previewing 2012 |
Playinghardball |
Dec-06-11 03:40 PM |
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Do I still have to eat my peas? |
MannyGoldstein |
Dec-06-11 03:51 PM |
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Yes. Peas give you your federal daily requirement of issue ducking condescension |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:43 AM |
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He didn't mean it. I can tell. n/t |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-06-11 03:55 PM |
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Don't be silly. He means each and every on e of his campaign speeches and always has. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:58 AM |
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As a DU donor-member.... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-07-11 08:39 AM |
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Where is the part where Obama offered |
Vinnie From Indy |
Dec-06-11 03:59 PM |
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And out come the the usual suspects! |
savalez |
Dec-07-11 02:02 PM |
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He talked like he hadn't been the President during the last 3 years. |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-06-11 04:03 PM |
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Yes, if only Republicans hadn't forced him... |
vi5 |
Dec-06-11 04:21 PM |
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^^ This!! |
LeftHandPath |
Dec-06-11 04:26 PM |
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+1 |
Maven |
Dec-06-11 04:38 PM |
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Actions. |
paparush |
Dec-06-11 05:56 PM |
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+1 |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:51 AM |
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Boy, the threadcrappers are hard at work bringing the right-wing memes. |
TheWraith |
Dec-06-11 05:05 PM |
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here are some more "right-wing memes" for your list.. |
frylock |
Dec-06-11 05:18 PM |
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"Fool me once" |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:36 AM |
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Where's the pony? |
LiberalEsto |
Dec-06-11 05:55 PM |
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Yup. That is one of many memes from the other side. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:37 AM |
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Obama Strikes Populist Chord With Speech in Heartland. |
elleng |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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Please remind us who the President has been for the last 3 years. |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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That's bullshit. We can list all the things he has done for the middle class but you'll just dismiss |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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1+++ Fascism always assumes that it owns reality & what it doesn't own can be acquired through power |
patrice |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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Thanks |
elleng |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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I've heard the speeches. I'm sure that I will now |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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I, for one, didn't know until 2 days ago that the Health Care Reform requires Insurance |
Cal33 |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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There are many many more things, |
elleng |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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Obama preserved private health care industry -- according to Rahm ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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one would think they were listening to team limbaugh, like 50 mil a week do. but likely they got it |
certainot |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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People see Obama and his accomplishments through different prisms. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 02:44 AM |
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Thanks for your attempt at rationality, No Elephs. |
elleng |
Dec-07-11 10:10 AM |
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Some commentators have said that 80% requirement is intended |
tblue37 |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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I'm all for the single payer system. I hope it succeeds. |
Cal33 |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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I like that idea too, that is, make them do what they're supposed to do, |
elleng |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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You may want to take a look at reply 97. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:23 AM |
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Right, surely they can 'endure' with 'mere' 20%. |
elleng |
Dec-07-11 01:42 AM |
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They're making it on a fraction of 20% now, but the mandate is coming, so things will look up. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:48 AM |
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Self delete. Meant to edit this and somehow reposted instead. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:02 AM |
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Either those commentators did not do their homework or they are propagandists |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:20 AM |
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I'll admit, I had forgotten that magnificent gem |
tavalon |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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20% is very generous, esp. if you make under 6% profit now. Please see the article at this link: |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:40 AM |
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I don't think the 20% (15% for large ins. cos.) is ALL profit. Don't forget, the ins. cos. |
Cal33 |
Dec-07-11 01:42 PM |
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Think about it. Here's one of the most dishonest and life threatening |
truedelphi |
Dec-07-11 01:49 PM |
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The insurance cos. aren't the only people keeping records. The medical people |
Cal33 |
Dec-08-11 06:30 AM |
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Two questions: |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 02:27 AM |
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I'm not in the insurance field, and haven't gone into the definitions. About the |
Cal33 |
Dec-08-11 06:49 AM |
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You got a "AMEN and DAMN RIGHT!" from this corner! |
66 dmhlt |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Right -- that's why poverty has increased during Obama's term -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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As a measure that list is laughable. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 02:37 AM |
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have a ginger ale. you'll feel better. |
dionysus |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Obama thinks he can put the "Campaign '08" mask back on again -- ? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Every other nation has universal health care, but it's us and not Obama who are "crazy" ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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And just what Congress is going to PASS it? Did you ever take middle school civics? |
RBInMaine |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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No Congress ... when Obama took Single Payer "OFF THE TABLE" .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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During his campaign, Obama said single payer could never work in the US==NOT |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:52 AM |
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Why wouldn't he? |
tblue |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Evidently it works for people who have amnesia -- or who are willing to delude themselves -- !! ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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is there a list of specific observable and measurable proposals in this speech? nt |
msongs |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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Clue. Stay away from poker games. nt |
patrice |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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oh he is bluffing. thanks for the warning :-) nt |
msongs |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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no but he looked good..... nice smile.... n/t |
IamK |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Watch what they do, not what they say. |
LeftHandPath |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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I like this guy. Where the hell has he been for the last 3 years. |
Autumn |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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Out passing more PROGRESSIVE legislation than we've seen since LBJ. Just ask Maddow. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Three new trade agreements, more money for MIC, flying drones over Pakistan ... "progressive" .. ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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SCHIP, Fair Pay, Wall St. Reform, Healthcare, the MOST green energy investment EVER... and if you |
RBInMaine |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Obama: "Oil rigs don't spill anymore" ...!! Arctic drilling!! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Maddow wants Obama a re-elected. That does not mean his legislation is progressive. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 01:58 AM |
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You think so? |
Autumn |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Not true. Just ask Keith. |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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I saw what you did there. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:33 AM |
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Why would we ask Maddow? We've been following along every day since since 2007. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Teddy roosevelt. One of the top three presidents in history. |
Muskypundit |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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He needed someone new. He's already done Abe Lincoln, FDR and JFK. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Talk is cheap. n/t |
Earth_First |
Dec-07-11 12:31 AM |
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Obama health reform bill still better than anything Clinton did. |
SleeplessinSoCal |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Right -- if you IGNORE that essentially it preserved the PRIVATE health care industry -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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For now. But when they can't profit enough, they will slink away, and we will end up with single-pay |
tblue37 |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Obama trampled "single payer" in back room deals with private H/C industry -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Have you seen the benefits of the reform bill? Or are you only going to harp on the negative? |
SleeplessinSoCal |
Dec-08-11 12:45 AM |
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. |
Occulus |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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He said he was in favor of single when he was in Illinois, However, when he ran for POTUS |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:33 AM |
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I hope you are correct, but I think you are underestimating the ability |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:33 AM |
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did you miss no elephant's remarks upthread? |
newspeak |
Dec-07-11 08:11 AM |
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Preserved? It bailed out and protected the health insurers and the private health care industry. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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I am getting sick of this... |
IthinkThereforeIAM |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Well, the first step is to ask for it and the second is to fight like hell for it . |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Yet, worse than Nixon's bill, which T. Kennedy killed, much to his lifelong regret. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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limbaugh has a trophy for defeating clinton HC, just as he does for single payer, and PO, but it's |
certainot |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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and words posted on a forum is even cheaper n/t |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Dec-07-11 04:46 AM |
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Words are all that is possible on a message board. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 07:30 AM |
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Really good speech, imo. Obama laid out the broad lines in our political tug-of-wars. |
pinto |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Agreed. Now let us hope that he doesn't start backpedaling |
Doctor_J |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Ah -- "Populist" ... after making it a dirty word, Dems want to bring it back? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Disagree that the Third Way controls the party, especially as recent political events develop. |
pinto |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Lots of info on DU says otherwise -- including Jonathan Cowan on C-span .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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DLC took over the Party. Whether OWS will change that remains to be seen. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Ah, that liberal NYT |
Doctor_J |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Attack on the rich equals "war on drugs". Sounds good, |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Obama does need to repeat the numbers over and over again |
newspeak |
Dec-07-11 01:30 PM |
#127 |
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Obama has only worked to preserve the elite wealth -- the rich - !! Wall Street -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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We've seen this movie before. |
MARK52 |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Actually, both Obama and HRC put Reagan on their top ten U.S. Presidents ever list. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 02:19 AM |
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I remember McBride from amnesty international |
newspeak |
Dec-08-11 10:58 AM |
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Well kidos to him for going there to make that speech. If only he could convince them to vote for |
craigmatic |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Yeah, his energy might be better spent rallying his base |
Doctor_J |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Promises |
MARK52 |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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According to a lot of people at DU, his base is solidly with him and DU |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 07:59 AM |
#117 |
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the "Obama Scandal List" tells you how much Obama cares about populism |
TMED |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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I almost didn't click given your low post count |
Doctor_J |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Now just back populist legislation and we're good |
SHRED |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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For all you skeptics - thank goodness someone is actually saying it. |
gtar100 |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Lack of ideals in us has not been the problem so far. Neither has the inability of Obama and his |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 07:36 AM |
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Anyone who votes republican that is NOT a millionaire is voting AGAINST him or herself |
judesedit |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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And what you would say about any Democrat who doesn't see that |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 07:46 AM |
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Populism will soon become the new "-ism" to attack |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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He's a great campaigner, I'll give him that |
tavalon |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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I agree with you completely! |
DiehardLiberal |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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Another speech with no actions. |
FunMe |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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1.9% surtax on incomes over a million? |
many a good man |
Dec-07-11 12:32 AM |
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And the people making only a half a million PER YEAR won't be asked for |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 08:03 AM |
#118 |
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Here is a cord ya'll can tug on... |
wundermaus |
Dec-07-11 12:33 AM |
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The Obama campaign was probably speed dialing the banks to let them know this speech was mere |
Citizen Worker |
Dec-07-11 01:52 AM |
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They don;t have to. Wall Street and the rich understand how the game is played. |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 08:05 AM |
#119 |
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Triangulate me once... |
JCMach1 |
Dec-07-11 12:48 AM |
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where is his populist/progressive filled house and senate? |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Dec-07-11 04:50 AM |
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If you evoke TR, expect comparisons... |
JCMach1 |
Dec-07-11 05:12 AM |
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He had the largest number of Democrats any Democrat is going to get |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 08:08 AM |
#120 |
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I have been critical of obama, especially his choices in cabinet |
newspeak |
Dec-07-11 07:52 AM |
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This is not news to anyone in politics, esp. national politics. Obama knew it |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 08:16 AM |
#122 |
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I understand no elephants |
newspeak |
Dec-07-11 08:56 AM |
#125 |
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Well, as usual, one group professes that Obama walks on water and the nation will perish unless |
No Elephants |
Dec-07-11 08:33 AM |
#123 |
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