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Farmers Contest Child-Labor Rules
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Some farmers are opposing new rules proposed by the federal government that would restrict the chores children can be hired to perform in the nation's fields, including driving tractors and rounding up cattle in corrals on horseback.

The U.S. Department of Labor says its proposal aims to look after children's safety in a dangerous industry. The rules would bar most farm hands younger than 16 years old from jobs such as operating power equipment, branding and breeding farm animals, and working atop ladders at heights over six feet.

Farmers say the planned regulations are overreaching.


Of the two million U.S. farms, about 98% are family owned, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation, a trade group. The new rules would apply to children under 16 who are hired by farming operations, not those who work at farms owned and operated by their parents. But many teens work at farms not owned by their immediate family, such as uncles or grandparents.

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I bet these same farmers who complain about this government over-reach on child labor also would hire adults only if the adults are poor, uneducated immigrants willing to work for cheap.
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  -Farmers Contest Child-Labor Rules alp227  Dec-04-11 09:08 PM   #0 
  - Our Governor Blowsalot came out against this last week  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-04-11 09:14 PM   #1 
  - 98% are family owned = what % of actual acreage? useless statistic really nt  msongs   Dec-04-11 09:28 PM   #2 
  - How many of those families are corporations?  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-04-11 09:40 PM   #4 
  - That is exactly what I was going to post about...  SoapBox   Dec-04-11 11:11 PM   #12 
  - What, you never heard of sister corporations, parent corporations?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 11:40 PM   #15 
  - Know anyone who was in a farming accident as a kid?  izquierdista   Dec-04-11 09:31 PM   #3 
  - So do I. Car wrecks too.  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-04-11 09:43 PM   #5 
  - It is not just farm kids in Nebraska  joeglow3   Dec-05-11 12:35 PM   #39 
     - I had friends who lived in the city but had relatives who were farmers  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-05-11 03:03 PM   #44 
  - Yes  newfie11   Dec-04-11 11:13 PM   #13 
  - "a 3 year old got his hair caught in the pto". So much sheer negligence for that to happen.  yellowcanine   Dec-05-11 11:09 AM   #36 
     - I agree in a perfect world this should not happen.  newfie11   Dec-05-11 12:44 PM   #41 
        - I don't buy it that we need a perfect world to prevent this sort of thing.  yellowcanine   Dec-05-11 05:02 PM   #45 
           - shit happens  newfie11   Dec-05-11 07:47 PM   #48 
              - I don't doubt it that the mother is completely distraught. But that doesn't take away the  yellowcanine   Dec-05-11 09:15 PM   #49 
  - i knew two as a kid  iamthebandfanman   Dec-05-11 02:59 AM   #18 
  - Ranching accidents. And those places are often far from good hospitals, too.  pnwmom   Dec-05-11 04:36 AM   #19 
  - The rules would NOT apply to children of the farm owners.  fasttense   Dec-05-11 05:57 AM   #26 
  - My husband's employer has about a dozen plants worldwide. Whenever  hedgehog   Dec-05-11 10:59 AM   #34 
     - The vast majority of family farmers keep their children safe. It has little to do with money.  yellowcanine   Dec-05-11 11:18 AM   #37 
  - Wow. This is just more paranoia bs. Kids can't ahve any fun these days without an adult overreacting  Quartermass   Dec-04-11 09:47 PM   #6 
  - It'll stop when  christx30   Dec-04-11 10:04 PM   #7 
  - Did you read  pnwmom   Dec-05-11 04:51 AM   #25 
  - Yes, denying kids the fun of dangerous, heavy farm labor is such a bad thing  The Genealogist   Dec-04-11 10:57 PM   #10 
  - "Slave labor" = "having fun"?  boppers   Dec-04-11 11:24 PM   #14 
  - Thanks for the reality check.  pnwmom   Dec-05-11 04:50 AM   #24 
  - LOL!  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 11:41 PM   #16 
  - Like most people, you know little about the risks of modern farming and ranching.  pnwmom   Dec-05-11 04:37 AM   #20 
  - A ten year old kid driving a tractor doing farm work isn't "having fun." He is working.  yellowcanine   Dec-05-11 10:35 AM   #30 
  - Seriously?  hedgehog   Dec-05-11 11:02 AM   #35 
  - as an adult. as an experienced heavy equipment operator, this is a good thing  pasto76   Dec-04-11 10:08 PM   #8 
  - +1. n/t  pnwmom   Dec-05-11 04:45 AM   #22 
  - Another way to wreck what few family farms are left. n/t  MadHound   Dec-04-11 10:29 PM   #9 
  - not factory farming or Monsanto?  alp227   Dec-04-11 10:58 PM   #11 
  - Another way to keep some rural kids alive and intact.  pnwmom   Dec-05-11 04:46 AM   #23 
  - I worked on a ranch when I was 12 and 13 back in NE.  Mr. McD   Dec-05-11 02:04 AM   #17 
  - The Dept. of Labor is right. Here are the facts on which they based their decision.  pnwmom   Dec-05-11 04:43 AM   #21 
  - These rules apply to outside hires not the farm kids.  fasttense   Dec-05-11 06:02 AM   #27 
  - As someone who grew up in a rural area I have to agree with the farmers, here.  Odin2005   Dec-05-11 07:19 AM   #28 
  - Well as someone who went to a funeral for a 14 yr old neighbor boy I don't.  yellowcanine   Dec-05-11 10:45 AM   #32 
  - I think it depends on what you are doing.  Scruffy1   Dec-05-11 02:44 PM   #43 
  - Same here.  Xithras   Dec-05-11 02:32 PM   #42 
  - I drove a tractor by the time I was 10 on my grandparents' farm  Matariki   Dec-05-11 07:15 PM   #47 
  - I call bullshit.  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-05-11 10:06 AM   #29 
  - Well, thenm if you guys are that opposed to it you shouldn't allow kids to drive cars or trucks  Quartermass   Dec-05-11 10:39 AM   #31 
  - Well duh. We don't. Not at all before age 16 and only then with direct supervision.  yellowcanine   Dec-05-11 10:49 AM   #33 
  - Ah-ha. Gingrinch's base  Doctor_J   Dec-05-11 12:30 PM   #38 
  - Glad to see such solid support of dangerous child labor at DEMOCRATIC Underground.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 12:39 PM   #40 
     - Over here they're bashing pensioners  Doctor_J   Dec-05-11 05:26 PM   #46 

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