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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. "Right to assembly"?
Building a barn in a park is the same thing as right to assembly?

That's ridiculous.
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  -Police Stop Occupy Construction in Capital alp227  Dec-04-11 07:48 PM   #0 
  - I support the occupiers but building structures in public parks, no  wordpix   Dec-04-11 07:59 PM   #1 
  - I agree.  virgogal   Dec-04-11 08:14 PM   #3 
  - yup. n/t  progressoid   Dec-04-11 08:59 PM   #5 
  - Agree nt  cstanleytech   Dec-04-11 09:06 PM   #6 
  - You support the occupiers as long as they are not staging an occupation ?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:26 PM   #11 
  - plus++++++  SammyWinstonJack   Dec-05-11 12:55 PM   #40 
  - I guess you would support the TParty putting up structures in all the nation's parks, then  wordpix   Dec-06-11 09:01 AM   #119 
  - What counts as a structure?  quakerboy   Dec-05-11 02:24 AM   #21 
  - Green grass is more important than an occupy movement -- of course -- !!! ROFL  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 09:55 AM   #25 
  - And in December, too. "Hey, occupiers! Get off Freedom Square's frozen lawn!"  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 02:26 PM   #63 
  - hyoerbole, much? I know, I know, it's so hard to stick to the facts and reality instead of  wordpix   Dec-06-11 09:06 AM   #121 
  - who said that? I support the DC gov here---occupiers can occupy but not build structures  wordpix   Dec-06-11 09:03 AM   #120 
  - You support the occupiers but not the occupying part?  Marrah_G   Dec-05-11 12:44 PM   #36 
  - If they never break the law then it's not civil disobedience  Doctor_J   Dec-05-11 12:48 PM   #39 
  - Protests are fine but this is not cool.  Quartermass   Dec-04-11 08:12 PM   #2 
  - Actually, it is so much cooler than any protest since the bonus occupation of DC under Hoover.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:28 PM   #12 
  - It's about time the FOCUS came back to our corrupt government in DC -- !!! Smoke 'em out -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 09:56 AM   #26 
     - Under Hoover, they burned down the occupiers. Scholars say that is the day Hoover lost the next  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 02:29 PM   #65 
  - What sort of protests are okay with you?  Marrah_G   Dec-05-11 12:46 PM   #37 
  - I support the OWS cause  pipoman   Dec-04-11 08:43 PM   #4 
  - Personally I believe it is time for OWS to move on  cstanleytech   Dec-04-11 09:16 PM   #7 
  - That may be your agenda. They seem to know how to pursue their agenda  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:37 PM   # 
  - If hanging out in parks chanting catchy slogans is the sum total of their agenda then  cstanleytech   Dec-04-11 11:34 PM   #20 
  - Actually they changed the entire national conversation in a few weeks from  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 09:37 AM   #24 
  - Your criticism is shallow -- and they have already created positive change ....  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 09:59 AM   #28 
  - The government's moving to the left?  Doctor_J   Dec-05-11 12:57 PM   #41 
     - Delay of Keystone would be one --  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 01:51 PM   #43 
        - All of which has absolutely nothing to do with building a barn in a park.  randome   Dec-05-11 01:54 PM   #44 
           - Obama being Wall Street and too far to the right has nothing to do with HOMELESSNESS???  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:08 PM   #51 
              - There are plenty of homeless centers people can work at.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:18 PM   #60 
                 - Yes -- the HOMELESS are certainly pampered -- !! ROFL  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:24 PM   #62 
                 - Evidently not.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:26 PM   #64 
                    - You think this is merely about changing the "crappy economy" ... ???  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:39 PM   #71 
                    - I don't need to be convinced there is injustice in the world.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:49 PM   #76 
                       - Seems that you do, actually -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:56 PM   #83 
                    - OMG The Occupy Movement started in September and It's the beginning of December and the economy .  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 02:48 PM   #75 
                       - Never said my life needed to be 'fixed'.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:53 PM   #79 
                          - Again, I recommend you google and educate yourself. Or not.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 02:55 PM   #81 
                          - And I will ask the question one more time.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:58 PM   #84 
                             - I have answered it. Either educate yourself or not. Sorry if you do not recongize that as an answer.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:07 PM   #86 
                          - What you're asking is, why are homeless relevant to the protesters ... !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:05 PM   #85 
                             - Agreed.  randome   Dec-05-11 03:21 PM   #92 
                                - Wasn't it you who thought OWS' efforts were being directed at the police ... ???  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:35 PM   #97 
                                   - Many more massive protests on Washington.  randome   Dec-05-11 03:38 PM   #99 
                                      - Only if you don't think bribery is theft -- ??? Again, there is an OCCUPY DC -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 04:01 PM   #106 
                 - First, I don't think there are plenty of homeless center. Sure are not enough in  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 02:39 PM   #70 
                    - I never said OWS had no impact.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:44 PM   #73 
                    - Neither did you say that it did -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:50 PM   #77 
                    - The conversation has shifted a little? LOL.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 02:54 PM   #80 
                    - K/R -- "But, if you only see a tent in a park, that's really too bad" -- LOVE IT!!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:44 PM   #74 
  - Don't forget getting pepper sprayed  Doctor_J   Dec-05-11 12:44 PM   #35 
     - Well the only thing that achieved was making them well seasoned though ill pass on the long pig as  cstanleytech   Dec-05-11 02:12 PM   #55 
        - And that, of course, shows respect for OWS and the protesters -- !! ROFL  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:11 PM   #88 
  - They've changed nothing  lbrtbell   Dec-05-11 06:10 AM   #23 
     - Delayed the Keystone Pipeline -- for one --  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 10:02 AM   #29 
     - You support OWS? Really? Do tell. How?  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:09 PM   #87 
  - You mean more candidates like Obama? ROFL  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 09:57 AM   #27 
  - Then you don't understand OWS very well.  Zhade   Dec-05-11 01:28 PM   #42 
     - You are right, I dont understand how sitting on their ass and chanting achieves anything.  cstanleytech   Dec-05-11 02:09 PM   #54 
        - You're right ... sitting on drugstore stools and trying to use "white only" rest rooms ...  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:13 PM   #56 
        - A poster says traditional GOTV is meaningless and your response is OWS should use traditional GOTV?  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 05:22 PM   #111 
           - Its not traditional government its the people currently controlling it that is the problem and until  cstanleytech   Dec-06-11 02:00 PM   #122 
  - Occupy DC began October 6, 2011. It is not a one month deal. None of the occupations are.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:32 PM   #13 
  - It was supposedly going to be a shelter for homeless folks. nt nt  Zorra   Dec-04-11 09:16 PM   #8 
  - This structure was not safe  bottomofthehill   Dec-04-11 09:30 PM   #9 
  - That is a standard pole barn structure.  Arctic Dave   Dec-04-11 10:09 PM   #10 
  - i dont think so,...  bottomofthehill   Dec-04-11 10:37 PM   #14 
     - Why is running water indoors a safety issue? It did not exist in many homes  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:44 PM   #16 
     - Yes it is.  Arctic Dave   Dec-04-11 11:09 PM   #18 
     - "i have running water if there is fire"  Occulus   Dec-05-11 05:17 PM   #109 
  - Did you inspect the structure? Was it less safe than being exposed to all elements  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:38 PM   #15 
     - Did the city inspector inspect it?  joeglow3   Dec-05-11 12:43 PM   #34 
        - What happened with your and your building had nothing to do with my question.,  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:17 PM   #89 
  - Great idea -- !! Nice that someone is thinking of our homeless -- government sure isn't -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 10:04 AM   #30 
  - As usual, DU is right there with "I support the occupation, but they should stop."  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:49 PM   #17 
     - Thanks, No Elephants.  Zorra   Dec-04-11 11:13 PM   #19 
     - You are welcome, Zorra. (Civil? I told a friend I'd finally lost it! LOL)  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:58 PM   #104 
     - Damn that was good!  unionworks   Dec-05-11 04:40 AM   #22 
     - Great. I hope it comes back to you in some way. Then again, it probably has.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:59 PM   #105 
     - +1000% --- k/r for your post -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 10:05 AM   #31 
     - I had a discussion with a friend last night about this  justiceischeap   Dec-05-11 11:09 AM   #32 
     - But people who support without accepting input from others...  randome   Dec-05-11 11:14 AM   #33 
     - here - maybe this will help you understand the Occupy Movement:  Zorra   Dec-05-11 02:08 PM   #52 
        - Sure, but what kind of 'direct action' are we talking about here?  randome   Dec-05-11 02:14 PM   #57 
        - By calling the building a "barn" when you know it was not a barn,  Zorra   Dec-05-11 02:51 PM   #78 
           - Fine. It was not a barn.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:56 PM   #82 
        - Tell me, how many times has that tactic worked and how many times has it failed?  cstanleytech   Dec-05-11 02:16 PM   #59 
           - Let's see, Abolitionist Movement - check. Labor Movement - check...  Zorra   Dec-05-11 02:33 PM   #67 
           - You seem to forget US history --  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:34 PM   #68 
              - None of the examples you cited were resolved by living in parks.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:40 PM   #72 
                 - Movements change -- different tactics are used -- and, again, they did not build a "barn" -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:17 PM   #90 
                    - You're not going to destroy capitalism...  randome   Dec-05-11 03:24 PM   #94 
                       - Why don't you tell us -- keep asking you to give specifics .... still waiting -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:37 PM   #98 
                          - I did, up-thread.  randome   Dec-05-11 03:41 PM   #100 
                             - No -- Wall Street owns the legislators -- !! However, there is an OCCUPY DC ...  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:57 PM   #103 
                             - So we should just let the wounded bleed out?  Zhade   Dec-05-11 04:06 PM   #107 
                                - Not at all.  randome   Dec-05-11 04:51 PM   #108 
                                   - You have an unfortunate way of saying things ....  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 05:17 PM   #110 
                                      - LOL  randome   Dec-05-11 05:30 PM   #113 
                                         - What I am saying is -- OBVIOUSLY -- I cannot speak for the movement ....  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 05:32 PM   #114 
                                         - Have the movement get in touch with you? Get over yourself. Go see them.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 05:46 PM   #116 
                                            - +1000% -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 08:47 PM   #118 
     - Basically, the right to free assembly shouldn't require a "permit" -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 01:57 PM   #45 
     - "Right to assembly"?  randome   Dec-05-11 01:59 PM   #46 
        - Two different discussions ... what I said was right to free assembly s/not require a permit !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:02 PM   #48 
     - There is a theory that a "but" in a sentence is pretty much a signal  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 05:40 PM   #115 
     - So no one is allowed to criticize anything about the occupation?  Doctor_J   Dec-05-11 12:46 PM   #38 
        - It's not about true criticism .... it's about feigned support -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:00 PM   #47 
        - Let me hazard a guess, here.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:03 PM   #49 
           - Only if YOU are the one to decide what "true" support is. Right?  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:04 PM   #50 
              - So neither of us is an arbiter of truth. We are agreed on that.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:09 PM   #53 
                 - Provide the criticism .... stop feigning support where it is obviously not there ---  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:15 PM   #58 
                    - I can't prove to you that I support protests against our injust economic system.  randome   Dec-05-11 02:21 PM   #61 
                       - You can't prove to me either that you really want to discuss anything ....  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 02:30 PM   #66 
                          - I think (my opinion, granted) that OWS should direct their resources...  randome   Dec-05-11 02:36 PM   #69 
                             - Who owns the legislators other than Wall Street?  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:19 PM   #91 
                                - There you go with the insults again.  randome   Dec-05-11 03:22 PM   #93 
                                   - You're feigning support for OWS --- and didn't answer the question --- Goodbye -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:26 PM   #95 
                                      - I have noticed the tendency of OWS fanatics...  randome   Dec-05-11 03:33 PM   #96 
                                         - "OWS fanatics" .... ??? ... but you wouldn't be insulting anyone, would you? ROFL  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 03:47 PM   #101 
                                            - They're not confronting them in enough numbers to make a difference.  randome   Dec-05-11 03:54 PM   #102 
                                               - And you don't think the numbers will increase -- ???  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 05:29 PM   #112 
        - Not at all what my post said, but thanks for the big straw man.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 05:47 PM   #117 
 

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