Arctic Dave
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Sun Dec-04-11 11:09 PM
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Your foundation doesn't mean anything, the dirt under it is what supports it. Open flame for heat? Are they heating with a barrel or or they using a flame that was confined in a stove, that too is completely safe.
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| -Police Stop Occupy Construction in Capital |
alp227 |
Dec-04-11 07:48 PM |
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I support the occupiers but building structures in public parks, no |
wordpix |
Dec-04-11 07:59 PM |
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I agree. |
virgogal |
Dec-04-11 08:14 PM |
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yup. n/t |
progressoid |
Dec-04-11 08:59 PM |
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Agree nt |
cstanleytech |
Dec-04-11 09:06 PM |
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You support the occupiers as long as they are not staging an occupation ? |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:26 PM |
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plus++++++ |
SammyWinstonJack |
Dec-05-11 12:55 PM |
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I guess you would support the TParty putting up structures in all the nation's parks, then |
wordpix |
Dec-06-11 09:01 AM |
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What counts as a structure? |
quakerboy |
Dec-05-11 02:24 AM |
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Green grass is more important than an occupy movement -- of course -- !!! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 09:55 AM |
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And in December, too. "Hey, occupiers! Get off Freedom Square's frozen lawn!" |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 02:26 PM |
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hyoerbole, much? I know, I know, it's so hard to stick to the facts and reality instead of |
wordpix |
Dec-06-11 09:06 AM |
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who said that? I support the DC gov here---occupiers can occupy but not build structures |
wordpix |
Dec-06-11 09:03 AM |
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You support the occupiers but not the occupying part? |
Marrah_G |
Dec-05-11 12:44 PM |
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If they never break the law then it's not civil disobedience |
Doctor_J |
Dec-05-11 12:48 PM |
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Protests are fine but this is not cool. |
Quartermass |
Dec-04-11 08:12 PM |
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Actually, it is so much cooler than any protest since the bonus occupation of DC under Hoover. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:28 PM |
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It's about time the FOCUS came back to our corrupt government in DC -- !!! Smoke 'em out -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 09:56 AM |
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Under Hoover, they burned down the occupiers. Scholars say that is the day Hoover lost the next |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 02:29 PM |
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What sort of protests are okay with you? |
Marrah_G |
Dec-05-11 12:46 PM |
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I support the OWS cause |
pipoman |
Dec-04-11 08:43 PM |
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Personally I believe it is time for OWS to move on |
cstanleytech |
Dec-04-11 09:16 PM |
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That may be your agenda. They seem to know how to pursue their agenda |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:37 PM |
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If hanging out in parks chanting catchy slogans is the sum total of their agenda then |
cstanleytech |
Dec-04-11 11:34 PM |
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Actually they changed the entire national conversation in a few weeks from |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 09:37 AM |
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Your criticism is shallow -- and they have already created positive change .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 09:59 AM |
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The government's moving to the left? |
Doctor_J |
Dec-05-11 12:57 PM |
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Delay of Keystone would be one -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 01:51 PM |
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All of which has absolutely nothing to do with building a barn in a park. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 01:54 PM |
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Obama being Wall Street and too far to the right has nothing to do with HOMELESSNESS??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:08 PM |
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There are plenty of homeless centers people can work at. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:18 PM |
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Yes -- the HOMELESS are certainly pampered -- !! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:24 PM |
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Evidently not. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:26 PM |
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You think this is merely about changing the "crappy economy" ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:39 PM |
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I don't need to be convinced there is injustice in the world. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:49 PM |
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Seems that you do, actually -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:56 PM |
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OMG The Occupy Movement started in September and It's the beginning of December and the economy . |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 02:48 PM |
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Never said my life needed to be 'fixed'. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:53 PM |
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Again, I recommend you google and educate yourself. Or not. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 02:55 PM |
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And I will ask the question one more time. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:58 PM |
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I have answered it. Either educate yourself or not. Sorry if you do not recongize that as an answer. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:07 PM |
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What you're asking is, why are homeless relevant to the protesters ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:05 PM |
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Agreed. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 03:21 PM |
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Wasn't it you who thought OWS' efforts were being directed at the police ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:35 PM |
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Many more massive protests on Washington. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 03:38 PM |
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Only if you don't think bribery is theft -- ??? Again, there is an OCCUPY DC -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 04:01 PM |
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First, I don't think there are plenty of homeless center. Sure are not enough in |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 02:39 PM |
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I never said OWS had no impact. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:44 PM |
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Neither did you say that it did -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:50 PM |
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The conversation has shifted a little? LOL. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 02:54 PM |
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K/R -- "But, if you only see a tent in a park, that's really too bad" -- LOVE IT!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:44 PM |
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Don't forget getting pepper sprayed |
Doctor_J |
Dec-05-11 12:44 PM |
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Well the only thing that achieved was making them well seasoned though ill pass on the long pig as |
cstanleytech |
Dec-05-11 02:12 PM |
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And that, of course, shows respect for OWS and the protesters -- !! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:11 PM |
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They've changed nothing |
lbrtbell |
Dec-05-11 06:10 AM |
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Delayed the Keystone Pipeline -- for one -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 10:02 AM |
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You support OWS? Really? Do tell. How? |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:09 PM |
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You mean more candidates like Obama? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 09:57 AM |
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Then you don't understand OWS very well. |
Zhade |
Dec-05-11 01:28 PM |
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You are right, I dont understand how sitting on their ass and chanting achieves anything. |
cstanleytech |
Dec-05-11 02:09 PM |
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You're right ... sitting on drugstore stools and trying to use "white only" rest rooms ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:13 PM |
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A poster says traditional GOTV is meaningless and your response is OWS should use traditional GOTV? |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 05:22 PM |
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Its not traditional government its the people currently controlling it that is the problem and until |
cstanleytech |
Dec-06-11 02:00 PM |
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Occupy DC began October 6, 2011. It is not a one month deal. None of the occupations are. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:32 PM |
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It was supposedly going to be a shelter for homeless folks. nt nt |
Zorra |
Dec-04-11 09:16 PM |
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This structure was not safe |
bottomofthehill |
Dec-04-11 09:30 PM |
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That is a standard pole barn structure. |
Arctic Dave |
Dec-04-11 10:09 PM |
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i dont think so,... |
bottomofthehill |
Dec-04-11 10:37 PM |
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Why is running water indoors a safety issue? It did not exist in many homes |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:44 PM |
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Yes it is. |
Arctic Dave |
Dec-04-11 11:09 PM |
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"i have running water if there is fire" |
Occulus |
Dec-05-11 05:17 PM |
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Did you inspect the structure? Was it less safe than being exposed to all elements |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:38 PM |
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Did the city inspector inspect it? |
joeglow3 |
Dec-05-11 12:43 PM |
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What happened with your and your building had nothing to do with my question., |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:17 PM |
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Great idea -- !! Nice that someone is thinking of our homeless -- government sure isn't -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 10:04 AM |
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As usual, DU is right there with "I support the occupation, but they should stop." |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:49 PM |
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Thanks, No Elephants. |
Zorra |
Dec-04-11 11:13 PM |
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You are welcome, Zorra. (Civil? I told a friend I'd finally lost it! LOL) |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:58 PM |
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Damn that was good! |
unionworks |
Dec-05-11 04:40 AM |
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Great. I hope it comes back to you in some way. Then again, it probably has. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:59 PM |
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+1000% --- k/r for your post -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 10:05 AM |
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I had a discussion with a friend last night about this |
justiceischeap |
Dec-05-11 11:09 AM |
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But people who support without accepting input from others... |
randome |
Dec-05-11 11:14 AM |
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here - maybe this will help you understand the Occupy Movement: |
Zorra |
Dec-05-11 02:08 PM |
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Sure, but what kind of 'direct action' are we talking about here? |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:14 PM |
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By calling the building a "barn" when you know it was not a barn, |
Zorra |
Dec-05-11 02:51 PM |
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Fine. It was not a barn. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:56 PM |
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Tell me, how many times has that tactic worked and how many times has it failed? |
cstanleytech |
Dec-05-11 02:16 PM |
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Let's see, Abolitionist Movement - check. Labor Movement - check... |
Zorra |
Dec-05-11 02:33 PM |
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You seem to forget US history -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:34 PM |
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None of the examples you cited were resolved by living in parks. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:40 PM |
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Movements change -- different tactics are used -- and, again, they did not build a "barn" -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:17 PM |
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You're not going to destroy capitalism... |
randome |
Dec-05-11 03:24 PM |
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Why don't you tell us -- keep asking you to give specifics .... still waiting -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:37 PM |
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I did, up-thread. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 03:41 PM |
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No -- Wall Street owns the legislators -- !! However, there is an OCCUPY DC ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:57 PM |
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So we should just let the wounded bleed out? |
Zhade |
Dec-05-11 04:06 PM |
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Not at all. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 04:51 PM |
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You have an unfortunate way of saying things .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 05:17 PM |
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LOL |
randome |
Dec-05-11 05:30 PM |
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What I am saying is -- OBVIOUSLY -- I cannot speak for the movement .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 05:32 PM |
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Have the movement get in touch with you? Get over yourself. Go see them. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 05:46 PM |
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+1000% -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 08:47 PM |
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Basically, the right to free assembly shouldn't require a "permit" -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 01:57 PM |
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"Right to assembly"? |
randome |
Dec-05-11 01:59 PM |
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Two different discussions ... what I said was right to free assembly s/not require a permit !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:02 PM |
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There is a theory that a "but" in a sentence is pretty much a signal |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 05:40 PM |
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So no one is allowed to criticize anything about the occupation? |
Doctor_J |
Dec-05-11 12:46 PM |
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It's not about true criticism .... it's about feigned support -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:00 PM |
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Let me hazard a guess, here. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:03 PM |
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Only if YOU are the one to decide what "true" support is. Right? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:04 PM |
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So neither of us is an arbiter of truth. We are agreed on that. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:09 PM |
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Provide the criticism .... stop feigning support where it is obviously not there --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:15 PM |
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I can't prove to you that I support protests against our injust economic system. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:21 PM |
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You can't prove to me either that you really want to discuss anything .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 02:30 PM |
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I think (my opinion, granted) that OWS should direct their resources... |
randome |
Dec-05-11 02:36 PM |
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Who owns the legislators other than Wall Street? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:19 PM |
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There you go with the insults again. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 03:22 PM |
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You're feigning support for OWS --- and didn't answer the question --- Goodbye -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:26 PM |
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I have noticed the tendency of OWS fanatics... |
randome |
Dec-05-11 03:33 PM |
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"OWS fanatics" .... ??? ... but you wouldn't be insulting anyone, would you? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 03:47 PM |
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They're not confronting them in enough numbers to make a difference. |
randome |
Dec-05-11 03:54 PM |
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And you don't think the numbers will increase -- ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-05-11 05:29 PM |
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Not at all what my post said, but thanks for the big straw man. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 05:47 PM |
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