| 107. Jeeeesus H Keeriste....One ot the oldest institutions in America |
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Edited on Sun Dec-04-11 10:59 PM by ooglymoogly
is going bankrupt while you play the flute leading the gullible off the cliff...are you stark raving insane.
Nobody but an idiot could make such a statement when it is obvious why this is happening.
THE USPS IS GOING BANKRUPT AFTER HUNDREDS OF YEARS AS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OPERATIONS IN HISTORY...BECAUSE OF THIS, OBSCENE, GREEDY BEYOND BELIEF, LEGISLATION...IT IS HAPPENING.
You need to tune up your flute if you expect anyone to believe these claptrap pug talking points.
The USPS has been making this country a far better place by its very existence and is a major part of the skeleton holding this country together. Without it we are lost as a civilized country...they need us now...they need our anger...they need our outrage...they need us to organize and call our congress and president...they are on life support....which means we are on life support.
They need our support and they have said as much.
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dipsydoodle |
Dec-04-11 02:23 PM |
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But hey, we've got the private carriers to rescue us! |
Systematic Chaos |
Dec-04-11 02:26 PM |
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And so cheap too! |
Fumesucker |
Dec-04-11 02:27 PM |
#2 |
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It is the way "they" want us to go. |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-04-11 06:02 PM |
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And, if you think they're cheap now, wait until you see how cheap they go after they do not |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 07:34 PM |
#54 |
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+1 nt |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 11:23 PM |
#118 |
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How many days did it take for this post to wind up on DU? |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 07:24 PM |
#50 |
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Ugh |
Bigredhunk |
Dec-05-11 01:18 AM |
#127 |
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It is far more Machiavellian than you suppose. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-06-11 10:26 AM |
#180 |
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Oddly. the private carriers were not forced, by Congress, |
dotymed |
Dec-05-11 06:38 AM |
#136 |
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Seems like a big blow to |
Newest Reality |
Dec-04-11 02:29 PM |
#3 |
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Just put all your credit card and bank account info online. No worries. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 07:36 PM |
#55 |
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all that shit is ALREADY online |
Skittles |
Dec-04-11 09:59 PM |
#101 |
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Actually, NOT in my case. thanks anyway. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:34 PM |
#157 |
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BANKS aready have your data in electronic form |
Skittles |
Dec-05-11 08:27 PM |
#174 |
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All so they can continue to OVERFUND the Federal retirement system to the tune of $50 Billion a year |
Vincardog |
Dec-04-11 02:40 PM |
#4 |
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The real story is why the USPS is in so much debt |
nuxvomica |
Dec-04-11 02:41 PM |
#5 |
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Leave it to the liberal biased Associated Press to leave out that little detail. nt |
Xtraneous |
Dec-04-11 02:54 PM |
#7 |
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Well, there are more details.. Please see Reply 68. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:47 PM |
#71 |
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Broadly speaking |
dipsydoodle |
Dec-04-11 03:08 PM |
#8 |
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This is true |
MadMaddie |
Dec-04-11 06:55 PM |
#29 |
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Broadly speaking the repugs fucked this up! |
bahrbearian |
Dec-04-11 06:57 PM |
#33 |
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Rethugs have had some help. Please see Reply 68 and see the article |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:49 PM |
#72 |
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And of course that 5.5 billion a year has been spent by The Treasury. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-04-11 03:09 PM |
#9 |
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CORRECT |
Skittles |
Dec-04-11 03:50 PM |
#11 |
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Less junk mail? |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-04-11 04:43 PM |
#15 |
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What a cavalier and ludicrous post.... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 06:55 PM |
#30 |
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Exactly, and they mask it all in spin about a phony decline in revenue |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 08:17 PM |
#64 |
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Please see Reply 68 and the article at the link in that post. Thanks. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:53 PM |
#75 |
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I'm with you. I love the post office!!! I love it when the mail carrier arrives. |
robinlynne |
Dec-04-11 10:48 PM |
#109 |
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Here's news for you |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:06 AM |
#132 |
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Maybe kids can deliver the mail and clean the toilets |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-05-11 11:50 AM |
#144 |
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Yes, most of us would prefer that the post office stays the way it is |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:25 PM |
#166 |
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Once again there are two sides to every story... one being for propaganda... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-05-11 06:51 PM |
#170 |
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Yes, eBay is popular, no doubt |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 10:50 PM |
#177 |
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Once again, information pulled from the hat. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-06-11 09:58 AM |
#179 |
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Again, once more I will ask |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-06-11 06:09 PM |
#182 |
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You just are not getting it. USPS is in a catch 22 |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-07-11 03:25 PM |
#185 |
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Ok, I can accept your contention |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-07-11 06:18 PM |
#186 |
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Priority mail is way cheaper than ups or fedex for packages |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-04-11 06:57 PM |
#34 |
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and that would be just like everybody else. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:05 PM |
#38 |
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Me, too! Also know the people at the PO -- and usually knew our carriers -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:11 PM |
#41 |
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It is |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:10 AM |
#133 |
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It seems to me that places like ebay |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-05-11 12:11 PM |
#147 |
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But most people in this country are package recipients, |
AlbertCat |
Dec-05-11 12:44 PM |
#150 |
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If I said that more people buy groceries |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:19 PM |
#165 |
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Rates are a matter for the Regulatory Commission. Please see Reply 68. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:51 PM |
#73 |
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Yeah, yeah, you keep saying that |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:11 AM |
#134 |
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LOLOL |
Skittles |
Dec-04-11 09:56 PM |
#97 |
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If they need an example....How are those 1-3hundred dollar |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 11:16 PM |
#117 |
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Perhaps they will some day |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:14 AM |
#135 |
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I've been saying that all along. Triple the cost to the banks, who are getting yet another BREAK to |
loudsue |
Dec-05-11 09:41 AM |
#139 |
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It's not just the banks |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:29 PM |
#167 |
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Less junk mail? |
AlbertCat |
Dec-05-11 12:35 PM |
#149 |
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How cost effective is it |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:33 PM |
#168 |
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Well they will and they won't like it |
MadMaddie |
Dec-04-11 06:56 PM |
#31 |
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The right takes everything the left has provided them from the founding fathers on, for granted. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:11 PM |
#42 |
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Remember when Obama compared universal health care to the Post Office, as though |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:59 PM |
#76 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 09:56 PM |
#98 |
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In fairness, that makes DU like every other board in the world. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:59 PM |
#111 |
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it is very disappointing |
Skittles |
Dec-05-11 08:26 PM |
#173 |
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It would mean the loss of one of my jobs |
Marrah_G |
Dec-05-11 12:31 AM |
#126 |
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A big plus one! |
Enthusiast |
Dec-04-11 04:41 PM |
#14 |
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I was in direct mail (junk mail) for three years a while back. |
onehandle |
Dec-04-11 04:54 PM |
#16 |
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Privatizers/RW who want to destroy the PO don't want to give them options ... like really competing |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:15 PM |
#45 |
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the usps has to.go to congress to raise rates |
blondie58 |
Dec-04-11 08:07 PM |
#61 |
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I believe the Postal Regulatory Commission makes that decision since the 2006 reforms, |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:46 PM |
#69 |
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The Postal Regulatory Commission has been preventing rate increases. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:04 PM |
#77 |
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If the postal service would just jack up the rate to, say 85 cents, all problems would be solved. |
AlbertCat |
Dec-05-11 12:48 PM |
#151 |
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Yes, it is CONTRIVED. Why don't our Dems raise hell? |
tblue |
Dec-04-11 07:22 PM |
#48 |
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I don't know why, but please see Reply 76. and then Reply 68. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:05 PM |
#79 |
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Almost? |
woo me with science |
Dec-04-11 11:30 PM |
#120 |
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Because they co-sponsored the legislation? |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:53 PM |
#162 |
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Are you referring to the 2006 postal reform legislation? If so, you might be interested to know |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:40 PM |
#68 |
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The whole "reform" wasn't bad |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 09:18 PM |
#82 |
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Please, First. exactly which parts of the 2006 "reforms" do you think were good for the survival |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:29 PM |
#86 |
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How about you read the bill, and tell me what you think of each of the 3000+ provisions |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 11:24 PM |
#119 |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Dec-05-11 10:18 AM |
#141 |
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You're right, of course |
bhikkhu |
Dec-05-11 07:22 PM |
#172 |
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Jeeeesus H Keeriste....One ot the oldest institutions in America |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 10:44 PM |
#107 |
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Its not going bankrupt, its falling short on unfair pension funding obligations |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 11:11 PM |
#116 |
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It promised pensions that it cannot (yet) pay for. |
boppers |
Dec-05-11 02:24 AM |
#131 |
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That is pure unadulterated bullshit |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-05-11 01:56 PM |
#152 |
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No company I have worked for has had 70 years of pensioning promises. |
boppers |
Dec-06-11 06:19 AM |
#178 |
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There is phony kindly gentler Democratic talk, coming around election time |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 10:27 PM |
#105 |
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Yes, it was, they passed that under Gingrich, I think. To take effect now. A manufactured crisis. |
freshwest |
Dec-05-11 02:00 AM |
#129 |
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No. Gingrich left Congress in 1999 |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-05-11 11:51 AM |
#145 |
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It was a bipartisan bill co-sponsored by Henry Waxman. |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 09:28 PM |
#176 |
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It was a bipartisan bill which which not one single Democrat in Congress opposed |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-05-11 11:49 AM |
#143 |
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No. It was bipartisan legislation - Henry Waxman was a co-sponsor. |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:52 PM |
#161 |
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No fear, our lobbyists, err...representatives will protect us |
snappyturtle |
Dec-04-11 02:42 PM |
#6 |
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Looks like another step in the purposeful dismantling of USPS |
suffragette |
Dec-04-11 03:12 PM |
#10 |
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This is only shown about |
ashling |
Dec-04-11 05:17 PM |
#19 |
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Why do you think it is, that if you ask the man on the street... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:51 PM |
#57 |
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How far does the comfortable, familiar "blue team, red team" paradigm stretch? |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:12 PM |
#80 |
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I doubt that would move them. Issa and his ilk want to break the union |
suffragette |
Dec-05-11 08:36 PM |
#175 |
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A priority mail package from FL to OH arrived in 1 day |
cmd |
Dec-04-11 04:05 PM |
#12 |
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the flat rate priority mail packages are an incredible deal and a great service |
pitohui |
Dec-04-11 05:35 PM |
#21 |
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+1 -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:24 PM |
#49 |
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I retired a few years ago after 33 years of service. - |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 04:07 PM |
#13 |
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I'm curious about Patrick Donahoe |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 04:59 PM |
#17 |
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Patrick Donahoe was appointed by the USPS Board of Governors |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 06:22 PM |
#25 |
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Very interesting |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 06:38 PM |
#28 |
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'Twould be interesting if you wrote an OP on this subject.... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:18 PM |
#46 |
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Thanks for the information |
MadMaddie |
Dec-04-11 06:58 PM |
#35 |
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welcome to du, summerschild! |
blondie58 |
Dec-04-11 08:13 PM |
#62 |
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Fellow Retiree |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 09:46 PM |
#91 |
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Dreams may not be only for Republicans anymore. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:16 PM |
#81 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 09:58 PM |
#100 |
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I'm thinking of the late fees that will be charged if I don't mail my credit card payment the same |
no_hypocrisy |
Dec-04-11 05:11 PM |
#18 |
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no one pays credit card bills by mail anymore |
pitohui |
Dec-04-11 05:27 PM |
#20 |
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No one pays any bills by mail anymore. |
RebelOne |
Dec-04-11 06:56 PM |
#32 |
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No-one except people like me. n//t |
Ed Suspicious |
Dec-04-11 07:22 PM |
#47 |
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So do I but the bank still has to mail checks to some vendors |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Dec-04-11 09:04 PM |
#78 |
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See my post below. |
Occulus |
Dec-04-11 09:51 PM |
#95 |
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We do not pay our bills online and never have. |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-04-11 07:02 PM |
#36 |
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BAD ASSUMPTION: no one pays by mail anymore?,... |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 07:03 PM |
#37 |
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+1 |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 07:14 PM |
#44 |
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Many people also do not own mailboxes. No reason for one. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 07:30 PM |
#52 |
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How do you get a package or legal documents on a cell phone? |
Scruffy1 |
Dec-04-11 07:55 PM |
#58 |
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With a lot of patience It's a little hard to balance them all on those little phones. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:40 PM |
#88 |
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A package? Depends on the contents. Legal documents? No reason for paper. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 10:50 PM |
#110 |
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No one pays credit card bills by mail anymore? You need to |
virgogal |
Dec-04-11 07:32 PM |
#53 |
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Not everyone by any stretch of the imagination. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:22 PM |
#84 |
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Somehow I doubt the correctness of this assertion, |
elleng |
Dec-04-11 09:45 PM |
#89 |
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"no one pays credit card bills by mail anymore" |
Occulus |
Dec-04-11 09:50 PM |
#94 |
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I do. Just recently our local hospital had to warn its people who paid their bills online |
tblue37 |
Dec-04-11 11:01 PM |
#112 |
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Our local water department was charging people for late payments when they paid their bill |
tblue37 |
Dec-04-11 11:09 PM |
#115 |
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are you really that dim? |
Skittles |
Dec-06-11 07:16 PM |
#183 |
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A suggestion that has calmed my nerves on this subject; pay it online....then there is no question. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:56 PM |
#59 |
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I would never put my bank account information online, but maybe that is just me. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:37 PM |
#87 |
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Have we seen Obama or Dems out there telling the public the truth about this fiasco??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 06:13 PM |
#23 |
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+1 If he did do this the people would be up in arms |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 08:01 PM |
#60 |
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Agree 1000% --- but corporate $$ buys a lot of Dem Party SILENCE -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 10:36 PM |
#106 |
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Super Duper Ditto! |
SoapBox |
Dec-04-11 08:34 PM |
#67 |
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What I have seen |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:46 PM |
#90 |
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He doesn't want to embarrass Henry Waxman |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:55 PM |
#163 |
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We're Number 1.. but we can't even get a letter delivered in the U.S.... |
lib2DaBone |
Dec-04-11 06:20 PM |
#24 |
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+1000% k/r |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:05 PM |
#39 |
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At our Occupy Chapel Hill the Direct Action working group made this suggestion: |
bertman |
Dec-04-11 06:25 PM |
#26 |
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LOL! Mass Business Reply Mailings! |
alp227 |
Dec-04-11 09:26 PM |
#85 |
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Thanks, Bertman. I hope this is a viable plan. I like it. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:48 PM |
#92 |
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Ding, ding, dong...I think that is a wonderful idea....I can't see how |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 10:09 PM |
#103 |
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I'll see your suggestion and raise it. |
mac56 |
Dec-05-11 03:18 PM |
#155 |
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Some of the folks suggested putting a wooden shim (like the kind you buy |
bertman |
Dec-05-11 06:40 PM |
#169 |
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This is what republicons want..` |
butterfly77 |
Dec-04-11 06:36 PM |
#27 |
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I greatly doubt it is only Republicans. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:56 PM |
#96 |
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Yet another reason |
chervilant |
Dec-04-11 07:05 PM |
#40 |
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Look at the USPS Board of Governors for who to blame |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 07:12 PM |
#43 |
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Please See Reply 76. and then Reply 68. Thanks. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:05 PM |
#102 |
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Tis a funny thing Dipsydoodle, how you so casually forgot or did not point |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:27 PM |
#51 |
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What a clusterfuck |
graywarrior |
Dec-04-11 07:49 PM |
#56 |
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shitwad republicans |
certainot |
Dec-04-11 08:15 PM |
#63 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 08:25 PM |
#65 |
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And that's just how the Republicans want it |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Dec-04-11 08:34 PM |
#66 |
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USPS Retirement funding |
blaze |
Dec-04-11 08:46 PM |
#70 |
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Link - one of many - |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 10:22 PM |
#104 |
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can't imagine them being suicidal and slowing Netflix delivery |
PatrynXX |
Dec-04-11 08:52 PM |
#74 |
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Our business takes orders online and ships via USPS. |
plumbob |
Dec-04-11 10:47 PM |
#108 |
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A lot of small businesses are in the same boat. |
girl gone mad |
Dec-04-11 11:37 PM |
#121 |
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The only reason you can imagine for USPS's still being around is Netflix? |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 11:02 PM |
#113 |
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I HATE repulicans! |
luv_mykatz |
Dec-04-11 09:21 PM |
#83 |
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I don't think it's only Republicans. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:57 PM |
#99 |
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You are right...Dino's are just as dangerous if not more so.... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 11:04 PM |
#114 |
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I pray that THIS WILL RESULT IN WE THE PEOPLE |
elleng |
Dec-04-11 09:49 PM |
#93 |
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I have a questions for the scholars among you |
HeiressofBickworth |
Dec-04-11 11:42 PM |
#122 |
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My niece will lose her job. |
Lugnut |
Dec-05-11 12:17 AM |
#123 |
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The plan is the destruction of the Postal Service. |
Scruffy1 |
Dec-05-11 08:20 AM |
#138 |
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Sure seems that way. See what the Democrats and Republicans can accomplish when they work together? |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:33 PM |
#156 |
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I don't think that people realize the devastating effect this will have on the economy. |
toddwv |
Dec-05-11 12:26 AM |
#124 |
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talk radio and the media have played their parts, too... |
Blue_Tires |
Dec-05-11 02:19 PM |
#153 |
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Oh great, that just might be the final nail in the coffin of the small business I work for |
Marrah_G |
Dec-05-11 12:30 AM |
#125 |
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Charge first class rates for the ad trash already!! |
on point |
Dec-05-11 01:30 AM |
#128 |
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They PRC will not let them increase rates. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 09:48 AM |
#140 |
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Ditto! |
tilsammans |
Dec-05-11 11:44 AM |
#142 |
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Oh that's gotta tickle the hearts of many a republican. |
gtar100 |
Dec-05-11 02:12 AM |
#130 |
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Would you please explain to me how Repubicans are doing this on their own, |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:44 PM |
#158 |
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First of all, it's not right of you to ask me to argue a point I did not make. |
gtar100 |
Dec-05-11 07:19 PM |
#171 |
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A major part of American infrastructure being privatized. |
dotymed |
Dec-05-11 07:18 AM |
#137 |
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I just can't believe how stupid this whole thing is. |
pam4water |
Dec-05-11 12:06 PM |
#146 |
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The Postal Service is for the"little people". They should be grateful that they even have one. |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-05-11 12:13 PM |
#148 |
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LOL. Damn Framers. Giving away things away to the hoi polloi in the Constitution. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:47 PM |
#159 |
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this is all union busting and payback |
martigras |
Dec-05-11 03:06 PM |
#154 |
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That law could have been repealed any time between January 2009 |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:52 PM |
#160 |
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It was bi-partisan legislation - Henry Waxman was a co-sponsor. |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:56 PM |
#164 |
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Think of all the late fees and interest payments the Big Banks |
Liberalynn |
Dec-06-11 10:28 AM |
#181 |
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Vote by Mail |
HeiressofBickworth |
Dec-06-11 11:45 PM |
#184 |
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