| 54. And, if you think they're cheap now, wait until you see how cheap they go after they do not |
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have to compete with the public option; i.e., USPS.
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| -Postal cuts to slow delivery of first-class mail v |
dipsydoodle |
Dec-04-11 02:23 PM |
#0 |
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But hey, we've got the private carriers to rescue us! |
Systematic Chaos |
Dec-04-11 02:26 PM |
#1 |
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And so cheap too! |
Fumesucker |
Dec-04-11 02:27 PM |
#2 |
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It is the way "they" want us to go. |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-04-11 06:02 PM |
#22 |
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And, if you think they're cheap now, wait until you see how cheap they go after they do not |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 07:34 PM |
#54 |
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+1 nt |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 11:23 PM |
#118 |
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How many days did it take for this post to wind up on DU? |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 07:24 PM |
#50 |
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Ugh |
Bigredhunk |
Dec-05-11 01:18 AM |
#127 |
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It is far more Machiavellian than you suppose. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-06-11 10:26 AM |
#180 |
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Oddly. the private carriers were not forced, by Congress, |
dotymed |
Dec-05-11 06:38 AM |
#136 |
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Seems like a big blow to |
Newest Reality |
Dec-04-11 02:29 PM |
#3 |
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Just put all your credit card and bank account info online. No worries. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 07:36 PM |
#55 |
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all that shit is ALREADY online |
Skittles |
Dec-04-11 09:59 PM |
#101 |
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Actually, NOT in my case. thanks anyway. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:34 PM |
#157 |
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BANKS aready have your data in electronic form |
Skittles |
Dec-05-11 08:27 PM |
#174 |
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All so they can continue to OVERFUND the Federal retirement system to the tune of $50 Billion a year |
Vincardog |
Dec-04-11 02:40 PM |
#4 |
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The real story is why the USPS is in so much debt |
nuxvomica |
Dec-04-11 02:41 PM |
#5 |
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Leave it to the liberal biased Associated Press to leave out that little detail. nt |
Xtraneous |
Dec-04-11 02:54 PM |
#7 |
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Well, there are more details.. Please see Reply 68. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:47 PM |
#71 |
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Broadly speaking |
dipsydoodle |
Dec-04-11 03:08 PM |
#8 |
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This is true |
MadMaddie |
Dec-04-11 06:55 PM |
#29 |
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Broadly speaking the repugs fucked this up! |
bahrbearian |
Dec-04-11 06:57 PM |
#33 |
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Rethugs have had some help. Please see Reply 68 and see the article |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:49 PM |
#72 |
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And of course that 5.5 billion a year has been spent by The Treasury. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-04-11 03:09 PM |
#9 |
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CORRECT |
Skittles |
Dec-04-11 03:50 PM |
#11 |
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Less junk mail? |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-04-11 04:43 PM |
#15 |
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What a cavalier and ludicrous post.... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 06:55 PM |
#30 |
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Exactly, and they mask it all in spin about a phony decline in revenue |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 08:17 PM |
#64 |
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Please see Reply 68 and the article at the link in that post. Thanks. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:53 PM |
#75 |
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I'm with you. I love the post office!!! I love it when the mail carrier arrives. |
robinlynne |
Dec-04-11 10:48 PM |
#109 |
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Here's news for you |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:06 AM |
#132 |
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Maybe kids can deliver the mail and clean the toilets |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-05-11 11:50 AM |
#144 |
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Yes, most of us would prefer that the post office stays the way it is |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:25 PM |
#166 |
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Once again there are two sides to every story... one being for propaganda... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-05-11 06:51 PM |
#170 |
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Yes, eBay is popular, no doubt |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 10:50 PM |
#177 |
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Once again, information pulled from the hat. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-06-11 09:58 AM |
#179 |
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Again, once more I will ask |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-06-11 06:09 PM |
#182 |
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You just are not getting it. USPS is in a catch 22 |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-07-11 03:25 PM |
#185 |
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Ok, I can accept your contention |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-07-11 06:18 PM |
#186 |
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Priority mail is way cheaper than ups or fedex for packages |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-04-11 06:57 PM |
#34 |
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and that would be just like everybody else. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:05 PM |
#38 |
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Me, too! Also know the people at the PO -- and usually knew our carriers -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:11 PM |
#41 |
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It is |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:10 AM |
#133 |
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It seems to me that places like ebay |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-05-11 12:11 PM |
#147 |
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But most people in this country are package recipients, |
AlbertCat |
Dec-05-11 12:44 PM |
#150 |
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If I said that more people buy groceries |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:19 PM |
#165 |
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Rates are a matter for the Regulatory Commission. Please see Reply 68. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:51 PM |
#73 |
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Yeah, yeah, you keep saying that |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:11 AM |
#134 |
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LOLOL |
Skittles |
Dec-04-11 09:56 PM |
#97 |
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If they need an example....How are those 1-3hundred dollar |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 11:16 PM |
#117 |
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Perhaps they will some day |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 06:14 AM |
#135 |
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I've been saying that all along. Triple the cost to the banks, who are getting yet another BREAK to |
loudsue |
Dec-05-11 09:41 AM |
#139 |
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It's not just the banks |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:29 PM |
#167 |
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Less junk mail? |
AlbertCat |
Dec-05-11 12:35 PM |
#149 |
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How cost effective is it |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-05-11 05:33 PM |
#168 |
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Well they will and they won't like it |
MadMaddie |
Dec-04-11 06:56 PM |
#31 |
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The right takes everything the left has provided them from the founding fathers on, for granted. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:11 PM |
#42 |
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Remember when Obama compared universal health care to the Post Office, as though |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:59 PM |
#76 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 09:56 PM |
#98 |
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In fairness, that makes DU like every other board in the world. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:59 PM |
#111 |
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it is very disappointing |
Skittles |
Dec-05-11 08:26 PM |
#173 |
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It would mean the loss of one of my jobs |
Marrah_G |
Dec-05-11 12:31 AM |
#126 |
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A big plus one! |
Enthusiast |
Dec-04-11 04:41 PM |
#14 |
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I was in direct mail (junk mail) for three years a while back. |
onehandle |
Dec-04-11 04:54 PM |
#16 |
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Privatizers/RW who want to destroy the PO don't want to give them options ... like really competing |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:15 PM |
#45 |
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the usps has to.go to congress to raise rates |
blondie58 |
Dec-04-11 08:07 PM |
#61 |
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I believe the Postal Regulatory Commission makes that decision since the 2006 reforms, |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:46 PM |
#69 |
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The Postal Regulatory Commission has been preventing rate increases. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:04 PM |
#77 |
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If the postal service would just jack up the rate to, say 85 cents, all problems would be solved. |
AlbertCat |
Dec-05-11 12:48 PM |
#151 |
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Yes, it is CONTRIVED. Why don't our Dems raise hell? |
tblue |
Dec-04-11 07:22 PM |
#48 |
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I don't know why, but please see Reply 76. and then Reply 68. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:05 PM |
#79 |
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Almost? |
woo me with science |
Dec-04-11 11:30 PM |
#120 |
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Because they co-sponsored the legislation? |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:53 PM |
#162 |
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Are you referring to the 2006 postal reform legislation? If so, you might be interested to know |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 08:40 PM |
#68 |
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The whole "reform" wasn't bad |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 09:18 PM |
#82 |
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Please, First. exactly which parts of the 2006 "reforms" do you think were good for the survival |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:29 PM |
#86 |
| -
How about you read the bill, and tell me what you think of each of the 3000+ provisions |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 11:24 PM |
#119 |
| -
hmm... |
chervilant |
Dec-05-11 10:18 AM |
#141 |
| -
You're right, of course |
bhikkhu |
Dec-05-11 07:22 PM |
#172 |
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Jeeeesus H Keeriste....One ot the oldest institutions in America |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 10:44 PM |
#107 |
| -
Its not going bankrupt, its falling short on unfair pension funding obligations |
bhikkhu |
Dec-04-11 11:11 PM |
#116 |
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It promised pensions that it cannot (yet) pay for. |
boppers |
Dec-05-11 02:24 AM |
#131 |
| -
That is pure unadulterated bullshit |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-05-11 01:56 PM |
#152 |
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No company I have worked for has had 70 years of pensioning promises. |
boppers |
Dec-06-11 06:19 AM |
#178 |
| -
There is phony kindly gentler Democratic talk, coming around election time |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 10:27 PM |
#105 |
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Yes, it was, they passed that under Gingrich, I think. To take effect now. A manufactured crisis. |
freshwest |
Dec-05-11 02:00 AM |
#129 |
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No. Gingrich left Congress in 1999 |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-05-11 11:51 AM |
#145 |
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It was a bipartisan bill co-sponsored by Henry Waxman. |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 09:28 PM |
#176 |
| -
It was a bipartisan bill which which not one single Democrat in Congress opposed |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-05-11 11:49 AM |
#143 |
| -
No. It was bipartisan legislation - Henry Waxman was a co-sponsor. |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:52 PM |
#161 |
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No fear, our lobbyists, err...representatives will protect us |
snappyturtle |
Dec-04-11 02:42 PM |
#6 |
| -
Looks like another step in the purposeful dismantling of USPS |
suffragette |
Dec-04-11 03:12 PM |
#10 |
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This is only shown about |
ashling |
Dec-04-11 05:17 PM |
#19 |
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Why do you think it is, that if you ask the man on the street... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:51 PM |
#57 |
| -
How far does the comfortable, familiar "blue team, red team" paradigm stretch? |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:12 PM |
#80 |
| -
I doubt that would move them. Issa and his ilk want to break the union |
suffragette |
Dec-05-11 08:36 PM |
#175 |
| -
A priority mail package from FL to OH arrived in 1 day |
cmd |
Dec-04-11 04:05 PM |
#12 |
| -
the flat rate priority mail packages are an incredible deal and a great service |
pitohui |
Dec-04-11 05:35 PM |
#21 |
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+1 -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:24 PM |
#49 |
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I retired a few years ago after 33 years of service. - |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 04:07 PM |
#13 |
| -
I'm curious about Patrick Donahoe |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 04:59 PM |
#17 |
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Patrick Donahoe was appointed by the USPS Board of Governors |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 06:22 PM |
#25 |
| -
Very interesting |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 06:38 PM |
#28 |
| -
'Twould be interesting if you wrote an OP on this subject.... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:18 PM |
#46 |
| -
Thanks for the information |
MadMaddie |
Dec-04-11 06:58 PM |
#35 |
| -
welcome to du, summerschild! |
blondie58 |
Dec-04-11 08:13 PM |
#62 |
| -
Fellow Retiree |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 09:46 PM |
#91 |
| -
Dreams may not be only for Republicans anymore. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:16 PM |
#81 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 09:58 PM |
#100 |
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I'm thinking of the late fees that will be charged if I don't mail my credit card payment the same |
no_hypocrisy |
Dec-04-11 05:11 PM |
#18 |
| -
no one pays credit card bills by mail anymore |
pitohui |
Dec-04-11 05:27 PM |
#20 |
| -
No one pays any bills by mail anymore. |
RebelOne |
Dec-04-11 06:56 PM |
#32 |
| -
No-one except people like me. n//t |
Ed Suspicious |
Dec-04-11 07:22 PM |
#47 |
| -
So do I but the bank still has to mail checks to some vendors |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Dec-04-11 09:04 PM |
#78 |
| -
See my post below. |
Occulus |
Dec-04-11 09:51 PM |
#95 |
| -
We do not pay our bills online and never have. |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-04-11 07:02 PM |
#36 |
| -
BAD ASSUMPTION: no one pays by mail anymore?,... |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 07:03 PM |
#37 |
| -
+1 |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 07:14 PM |
#44 |
| -
Many people also do not own mailboxes. No reason for one. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 07:30 PM |
#52 |
| -
How do you get a package or legal documents on a cell phone? |
Scruffy1 |
Dec-04-11 07:55 PM |
#58 |
| -
With a lot of patience It's a little hard to balance them all on those little phones. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:40 PM |
#88 |
| -
A package? Depends on the contents. Legal documents? No reason for paper. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 10:50 PM |
#110 |
| -
No one pays credit card bills by mail anymore? You need to |
virgogal |
Dec-04-11 07:32 PM |
#53 |
| -
Not everyone by any stretch of the imagination. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:22 PM |
#84 |
| -
Somehow I doubt the correctness of this assertion, |
elleng |
Dec-04-11 09:45 PM |
#89 |
| -
"no one pays credit card bills by mail anymore" |
Occulus |
Dec-04-11 09:50 PM |
#94 |
| -
I do. Just recently our local hospital had to warn its people who paid their bills online |
tblue37 |
Dec-04-11 11:01 PM |
#112 |
| -
Our local water department was charging people for late payments when they paid their bill |
tblue37 |
Dec-04-11 11:09 PM |
#115 |
| -
are you really that dim? |
Skittles |
Dec-06-11 07:16 PM |
#183 |
| -
A suggestion that has calmed my nerves on this subject; pay it online....then there is no question. |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:56 PM |
#59 |
| -
I would never put my bank account information online, but maybe that is just me. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:37 PM |
#87 |
| -
Have we seen Obama or Dems out there telling the public the truth about this fiasco??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 06:13 PM |
#23 |
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+1 If he did do this the people would be up in arms |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 08:01 PM |
#60 |
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Agree 1000% --- but corporate $$ buys a lot of Dem Party SILENCE -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 10:36 PM |
#106 |
| -
Super Duper Ditto! |
SoapBox |
Dec-04-11 08:34 PM |
#67 |
| -
What I have seen |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:46 PM |
#90 |
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He doesn't want to embarrass Henry Waxman |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:55 PM |
#163 |
| -
We're Number 1.. but we can't even get a letter delivered in the U.S.... |
lib2DaBone |
Dec-04-11 06:20 PM |
#24 |
| -
+1000% k/r |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-11 07:05 PM |
#39 |
| -
At our Occupy Chapel Hill the Direct Action working group made this suggestion: |
bertman |
Dec-04-11 06:25 PM |
#26 |
| -
LOL! Mass Business Reply Mailings! |
alp227 |
Dec-04-11 09:26 PM |
#85 |
| -
Thanks, Bertman. I hope this is a viable plan. I like it. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:48 PM |
#92 |
| -
Ding, ding, dong...I think that is a wonderful idea....I can't see how |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 10:09 PM |
#103 |
| -
I'll see your suggestion and raise it. |
mac56 |
Dec-05-11 03:18 PM |
#155 |
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Some of the folks suggested putting a wooden shim (like the kind you buy |
bertman |
Dec-05-11 06:40 PM |
#169 |
| -
This is what republicons want..` |
butterfly77 |
Dec-04-11 06:36 PM |
#27 |
| -
I greatly doubt it is only Republicans. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:56 PM |
#96 |
| -
Yet another reason |
chervilant |
Dec-04-11 07:05 PM |
#40 |
| -
Look at the USPS Board of Governors for who to blame |
sketchy |
Dec-04-11 07:12 PM |
#43 |
| -
Please See Reply 76. and then Reply 68. Thanks. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 10:05 PM |
#102 |
| -
Tis a funny thing Dipsydoodle, how you so casually forgot or did not point |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 07:27 PM |
#51 |
| -
What a clusterfuck |
graywarrior |
Dec-04-11 07:49 PM |
#56 |
| -
shitwad republicans |
certainot |
Dec-04-11 08:15 PM |
#63 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 08:25 PM |
#65 |
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And that's just how the Republicans want it |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Dec-04-11 08:34 PM |
#66 |
| -
USPS Retirement funding |
blaze |
Dec-04-11 08:46 PM |
#70 |
| -
Link - one of many - |
summerschild |
Dec-04-11 10:22 PM |
#104 |
| -
can't imagine them being suicidal and slowing Netflix delivery |
PatrynXX |
Dec-04-11 08:52 PM |
#74 |
| -
Our business takes orders online and ships via USPS. |
plumbob |
Dec-04-11 10:47 PM |
#108 |
| -
A lot of small businesses are in the same boat. |
girl gone mad |
Dec-04-11 11:37 PM |
#121 |
| -
The only reason you can imagine for USPS's still being around is Netflix? |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 11:02 PM |
#113 |
| -
I HATE repulicans! |
luv_mykatz |
Dec-04-11 09:21 PM |
#83 |
| -
I don't think it's only Republicans. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 09:57 PM |
#99 |
| -
You are right...Dino's are just as dangerous if not more so.... |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-04-11 11:04 PM |
#114 |
| -
I pray that THIS WILL RESULT IN WE THE PEOPLE |
elleng |
Dec-04-11 09:49 PM |
#93 |
| -
I have a questions for the scholars among you |
HeiressofBickworth |
Dec-04-11 11:42 PM |
#122 |
| -
My niece will lose her job. |
Lugnut |
Dec-05-11 12:17 AM |
#123 |
| -
The plan is the destruction of the Postal Service. |
Scruffy1 |
Dec-05-11 08:20 AM |
#138 |
| -
Sure seems that way. See what the Democrats and Republicans can accomplish when they work together? |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:33 PM |
#156 |
| -
I don't think that people realize the devastating effect this will have on the economy. |
toddwv |
Dec-05-11 12:26 AM |
#124 |
| -
talk radio and the media have played their parts, too... |
Blue_Tires |
Dec-05-11 02:19 PM |
#153 |
| -
Oh great, that just might be the final nail in the coffin of the small business I work for |
Marrah_G |
Dec-05-11 12:30 AM |
#125 |
| -
Charge first class rates for the ad trash already!! |
on point |
Dec-05-11 01:30 AM |
#128 |
| -
They PRC will not let them increase rates. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 09:48 AM |
#140 |
| -
Ditto! |
tilsammans |
Dec-05-11 11:44 AM |
#142 |
| -
Oh that's gotta tickle the hearts of many a republican. |
gtar100 |
Dec-05-11 02:12 AM |
#130 |
| -
Would you please explain to me how Repubicans are doing this on their own, |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:44 PM |
#158 |
| -
First of all, it's not right of you to ask me to argue a point I did not make. |
gtar100 |
Dec-05-11 07:19 PM |
#171 |
| -
A major part of American infrastructure being privatized. |
dotymed |
Dec-05-11 07:18 AM |
#137 |
| -
I just can't believe how stupid this whole thing is. |
pam4water |
Dec-05-11 12:06 PM |
#146 |
| -
The Postal Service is for the"little people". They should be grateful that they even have one. |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-05-11 12:13 PM |
#148 |
| -
LOL. Damn Framers. Giving away things away to the hoi polloi in the Constitution. |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:47 PM |
#159 |
| -
this is all union busting and payback |
martigras |
Dec-05-11 03:06 PM |
#154 |
| -
That law could have been repealed any time between January 2009 |
No Elephants |
Dec-05-11 03:52 PM |
#160 |
| -
It was bi-partisan legislation - Henry Waxman was a co-sponsor. |
hack89 |
Dec-05-11 04:56 PM |
#164 |
| -
Think of all the late fees and interest payments the Big Banks |
Liberalynn |
Dec-06-11 10:28 AM |
#181 |
| -
Vote by Mail |
HeiressofBickworth |
Dec-06-11 11:45 PM |
#184 |
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