You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #37: BAD ASSUMPTION: no one pays by mail anymore?,... [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
summerschild Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #20
37. BAD ASSUMPTION: no one pays by mail anymore?,...
Edited on Sun Dec-04-11 07:39 PM by summerschild
Fewer pay by mail but it's in error to assume NO ONE PAYS by mail any more. Younger folks tend to think this, as computers are so much a part of their culture. Believe it or not, many people do not even own computers. Some (older or disinclined or without the resources to own them) will never pay a bill on line.

And remember the 25% of the population that Fed Ex and UPS don't reach? (They collect good money from the customer but actually pay a little to the Postal Service to deliver to that 25% - that would include boat routes like the Okefenoke Swamp or Alaska, or villages in the Grand Canyon that are served by burro.)

Figures are available that demonstrate first class volume - the numbers are staggering even with the amount that has gone to the internet. If you could see the literal mountain of mail that processes through any large city on any night, you would have no doubt that every piece of mail that properly reaches your name and address is a miracle.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
  -Postal cuts to slow delivery of first-class mail v dipsydoodle  Dec-04-11 02:23 PM   #0 
  - But hey, we've got the private carriers to rescue us!  Systematic Chaos   Dec-04-11 02:26 PM   #1 
  - And so cheap too!  Fumesucker   Dec-04-11 02:27 PM   #2 
  - It is the way "they" want us to go.  russspeakeasy   Dec-04-11 06:02 PM   #22 
  - And, if you think they're cheap now, wait until you see how cheap they go after they do not  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 07:34 PM   #54 
     - +1 nt  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 11:23 PM   #118 
  - How many days did it take for this post to wind up on DU?  boppers   Dec-04-11 07:24 PM   #50 
  - Ugh  Bigredhunk   Dec-05-11 01:18 AM   #127 
  - It is far more Machiavellian than you suppose.  ooglymoogly   Dec-06-11 10:26 AM   #180 
  - Oddly. the private carriers were not forced, by Congress,  dotymed   Dec-05-11 06:38 AM   #136 
  - Seems like a big blow to  Newest Reality   Dec-04-11 02:29 PM   #3 
  - Just put all your credit card and bank account info online. No worries.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 07:36 PM   #55 
     - all that shit is ALREADY online  Skittles   Dec-04-11 09:59 PM   #101 
        - Actually, NOT in my case. thanks anyway.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:34 PM   #157 
           - BANKS aready have your data in electronic form  Skittles   Dec-05-11 08:27 PM   #174 
  - All so they can continue to OVERFUND the Federal retirement system to the tune of $50 Billion a year  Vincardog   Dec-04-11 02:40 PM   #4 
  - The real story is why the USPS is in so much debt  nuxvomica   Dec-04-11 02:41 PM   #5 
  - Leave it to the liberal biased Associated Press to leave out that little detail. nt  Xtraneous   Dec-04-11 02:54 PM   #7 
  - Well, there are more details.. Please see Reply 68.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 08:47 PM   #71 
  - Broadly speaking  dipsydoodle   Dec-04-11 03:08 PM   #8 
  - This is true  MadMaddie   Dec-04-11 06:55 PM   #29 
  - Broadly speaking the repugs fucked this up!  bahrbearian   Dec-04-11 06:57 PM   #33 
     - Rethugs have had some help. Please see Reply 68 and see the article  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 08:49 PM   #72 
  - And of course that 5.5 billion a year has been spent by The Treasury.  dixiegrrrrl   Dec-04-11 03:09 PM   #9 
  - CORRECT  Skittles   Dec-04-11 03:50 PM   #11 
  - Less junk mail?  customerserviceguy   Dec-04-11 04:43 PM   #15 
  - What a cavalier and ludicrous post....  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 06:55 PM   #30 
  - Exactly, and they mask it all in spin about a phony decline in revenue  bhikkhu   Dec-04-11 08:17 PM   #64 
  - Please see Reply 68 and the article at the link in that post. Thanks.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 08:53 PM   #75 
  - I'm with you. I love the post office!!! I love it when the mail carrier arrives.  robinlynne   Dec-04-11 10:48 PM   #109 
  - Here's news for you  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 06:06 AM   #132 
     - Maybe kids can deliver the mail and clean the toilets  ooglymoogly   Dec-05-11 11:50 AM   #144 
        - Yes, most of us would prefer that the post office stays the way it is  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 05:25 PM   #166 
           - Once again there are two sides to every story... one being for propaganda...  ooglymoogly   Dec-05-11 06:51 PM   #170 
              - Yes, eBay is popular, no doubt  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 10:50 PM   #177 
                 - Once again, information pulled from the hat.  ooglymoogly   Dec-06-11 09:58 AM   #179 
                    - Again, once more I will ask  customerserviceguy   Dec-06-11 06:09 PM   #182 
                       - You just are not getting it. USPS is in a catch 22  ooglymoogly   Dec-07-11 03:25 PM   #185 
                          - Ok, I can accept your contention  customerserviceguy   Dec-07-11 06:18 PM   #186 
  - Priority mail is way cheaper than ups or fedex for packages  Mojorabbit   Dec-04-11 06:57 PM   #34 
  - and that would be just like everybody else. nt  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 07:05 PM   #38 
  - Me, too! Also know the people at the PO -- and usually knew our carriers -- !!!  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 07:11 PM   #41 
  - It is  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 06:10 AM   #133 
     - It seems to me that places like ebay  Mojorabbit   Dec-05-11 12:11 PM   #147 
     - But most people in this country are package recipients,  AlbertCat   Dec-05-11 12:44 PM   #150 
        - If I said that more people buy groceries  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 05:19 PM   #165 
  - Rates are a matter for the Regulatory Commission. Please see Reply 68.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 08:51 PM   #73 
  - Yeah, yeah, you keep saying that  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 06:11 AM   #134 
  - LOLOL  Skittles   Dec-04-11 09:56 PM   #97 
  - If they need an example....How are those 1-3hundred dollar  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 11:16 PM   #117 
  - Perhaps they will some day  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 06:14 AM   #135 
  - I've been saying that all along. Triple the cost to the banks, who are getting yet another BREAK to  loudsue   Dec-05-11 09:41 AM   #139 
  - It's not just the banks  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 05:29 PM   #167 
  - Less junk mail?  AlbertCat   Dec-05-11 12:35 PM   #149 
     - How cost effective is it  customerserviceguy   Dec-05-11 05:33 PM   #168 
  - Well they will and they won't like it  MadMaddie   Dec-04-11 06:56 PM   #31 
  - The right takes everything the left has provided them from the founding fathers on, for granted.  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 07:11 PM   #42 
  - Remember when Obama compared universal health care to the Post Office, as though  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 08:59 PM   #76 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 09:56 PM   #98 
     - In fairness, that makes DU like every other board in the world.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:59 PM   #111 
        - it is very disappointing  Skittles   Dec-05-11 08:26 PM   #173 
  - It would mean the loss of one of my jobs  Marrah_G   Dec-05-11 12:31 AM   #126 
  - A big plus one!  Enthusiast   Dec-04-11 04:41 PM   #14 
  - I was in direct mail (junk mail) for three years a while back.  onehandle   Dec-04-11 04:54 PM   #16 
  - Privatizers/RW who want to destroy the PO don't want to give them options ... like really competing  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 07:15 PM   #45 
  - the usps has to.go to congress to raise rates  blondie58   Dec-04-11 08:07 PM   #61 
  - I believe the Postal Regulatory Commission makes that decision since the 2006 reforms,  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 08:46 PM   #69 
  - The Postal Regulatory Commission has been preventing rate increases.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:04 PM   #77 
  - If the postal service would just jack up the rate to, say 85 cents, all problems would be solved.  AlbertCat   Dec-05-11 12:48 PM   #151 
  - Yes, it is CONTRIVED. Why don't our Dems raise hell?  tblue   Dec-04-11 07:22 PM   #48 
  - I don't know why, but please see Reply 76. and then Reply 68.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:05 PM   #79 
  - Almost?  woo me with science   Dec-04-11 11:30 PM   #120 
  - Because they co-sponsored the legislation?  hack89   Dec-05-11 04:53 PM   #162 
  - Are you referring to the 2006 postal reform legislation? If so, you might be interested to know  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 08:40 PM   #68 
  - The whole "reform" wasn't bad  bhikkhu   Dec-04-11 09:18 PM   #82 
  - Please, First. exactly which parts of the 2006 "reforms" do you think were good for the survival  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:29 PM   #86 
  - How about you read the bill, and tell me what you think of each of the 3000+ provisions  bhikkhu   Dec-04-11 11:24 PM   #119 
     - hmm...  chervilant   Dec-05-11 10:18 AM   #141 
        - You're right, of course  bhikkhu   Dec-05-11 07:22 PM   #172 
  - Jeeeesus H Keeriste....One ot the oldest institutions in America  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 10:44 PM   #107 
     - Its not going bankrupt, its falling short on unfair pension funding obligations  bhikkhu   Dec-04-11 11:11 PM   #116 
        - It promised pensions that it cannot (yet) pay for.  boppers   Dec-05-11 02:24 AM   #131 
           - That is pure unadulterated bullshit  ooglymoogly   Dec-05-11 01:56 PM   #152 
              - No company I have worked for has had 70 years of pensioning promises.  boppers   Dec-06-11 06:19 AM   #178 
  - There is phony kindly gentler Democratic talk, coming around election time  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 10:27 PM   #105 
  - Yes, it was, they passed that under Gingrich, I think. To take effect now. A manufactured crisis.  freshwest   Dec-05-11 02:00 AM   #129 
  - No. Gingrich left Congress in 1999  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-05-11 11:51 AM   #145 
  - It was a bipartisan bill co-sponsored by Henry Waxman.  hack89   Dec-05-11 09:28 PM   #176 
  - It was a bipartisan bill which which not one single Democrat in Congress opposed  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-05-11 11:49 AM   #143 
  - No. It was bipartisan legislation - Henry Waxman was a co-sponsor.  hack89   Dec-05-11 04:52 PM   #161 
  - No fear, our lobbyists, err...representatives will protect us  snappyturtle   Dec-04-11 02:42 PM   #6 
  - Looks like another step in the purposeful dismantling of USPS  suffragette   Dec-04-11 03:12 PM   #10 
  - This is only shown about  ashling   Dec-04-11 05:17 PM   #19 
     - Why do you think it is, that if you ask the man on the street...  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 07:51 PM   #57 
     - How far does the comfortable, familiar "blue team, red team" paradigm stretch?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:12 PM   #80 
     - I doubt that would move them. Issa and his ilk want to break the union  suffragette   Dec-05-11 08:36 PM   #175 
  - A priority mail package from FL to OH arrived in 1 day  cmd   Dec-04-11 04:05 PM   #12 
  - the flat rate priority mail packages are an incredible deal and a great service  pitohui   Dec-04-11 05:35 PM   #21 
  - +1 --  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 07:24 PM   #49 
  - I retired a few years ago after 33 years of service. -  summerschild   Dec-04-11 04:07 PM   #13 
  - I'm curious about Patrick Donahoe  sketchy   Dec-04-11 04:59 PM   #17 
  - Patrick Donahoe was appointed by the USPS Board of Governors  summerschild   Dec-04-11 06:22 PM   #25 
     - Very interesting  sketchy   Dec-04-11 06:38 PM   #28 
     - 'Twould be interesting if you wrote an OP on this subject....  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 07:18 PM   #46 
  - Thanks for the information  MadMaddie   Dec-04-11 06:58 PM   #35 
  - welcome to du, summerschild!  blondie58   Dec-04-11 08:13 PM   #62 
  - Fellow Retiree  summerschild   Dec-04-11 09:46 PM   #91 
  - Dreams may not be only for Republicans anymore.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:16 PM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 09:58 PM   #100 
  - I'm thinking of the late fees that will be charged if I don't mail my credit card payment the same  no_hypocrisy   Dec-04-11 05:11 PM   #18 
  - no one pays credit card bills by mail anymore  pitohui   Dec-04-11 05:27 PM   #20 
  - No one pays any bills by mail anymore.  RebelOne   Dec-04-11 06:56 PM   #32 
  - No-one except people like me. n//t  Ed Suspicious   Dec-04-11 07:22 PM   #47 
  - So do I but the bank still has to mail checks to some vendors  ProfessionalLeftist   Dec-04-11 09:04 PM   #78 
  - See my post below.  Occulus   Dec-04-11 09:51 PM   #95 
  - We do not pay our bills online and never have.  Mojorabbit   Dec-04-11 07:02 PM   #36 
  - BAD ASSUMPTION: no one pays by mail anymore?,...  summerschild   Dec-04-11 07:03 PM   #37 
  - +1  sketchy   Dec-04-11 07:14 PM   #44 
  - Many people also do not own mailboxes. No reason for one.  boppers   Dec-04-11 07:30 PM   #52 
     - How do you get a package or legal documents on a cell phone?  Scruffy1   Dec-04-11 07:55 PM   #58 
        - With a lot of patience It's a little hard to balance them all on those little phones.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:40 PM   #88 
        - A package? Depends on the contents. Legal documents? No reason for paper.  boppers   Dec-04-11 10:50 PM   #110 
  - No one pays credit card bills by mail anymore? You need to  virgogal   Dec-04-11 07:32 PM   #53 
  - Not everyone by any stretch of the imagination.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:22 PM   #84 
  - Somehow I doubt the correctness of this assertion,  elleng   Dec-04-11 09:45 PM   #89 
  - "no one pays credit card bills by mail anymore"  Occulus   Dec-04-11 09:50 PM   #94 
  - I do. Just recently our local hospital had to warn its people who paid their bills online  tblue37   Dec-04-11 11:01 PM   #112 
  - Our local water department was charging people for late payments when they paid their bill  tblue37   Dec-04-11 11:09 PM   #115 
  - are you really that dim?  Skittles   Dec-06-11 07:16 PM   #183 
  - A suggestion that has calmed my nerves on this subject; pay it online....then there is no question.  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 07:56 PM   #59 
     - I would never put my bank account information online, but maybe that is just me.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:37 PM   #87 
  - Have we seen Obama or Dems out there telling the public the truth about this fiasco???  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 06:13 PM   #23 
  - +1 If he did do this the people would be up in arms  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 08:01 PM   #60 
  - Agree 1000% --- but corporate $$ buys a lot of Dem Party SILENCE -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 10:36 PM   #106 
  - Super Duper Ditto!  SoapBox   Dec-04-11 08:34 PM   #67 
  - What I have seen  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:46 PM   #90 
  - He doesn't want to embarrass Henry Waxman  hack89   Dec-05-11 04:55 PM   #163 
  - We're Number 1.. but we can't even get a letter delivered in the U.S....  lib2DaBone   Dec-04-11 06:20 PM   #24 
  - +1000% k/r  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 07:05 PM   #39 
  - At our Occupy Chapel Hill the Direct Action working group made this suggestion:  bertman   Dec-04-11 06:25 PM   #26 
  - LOL! Mass Business Reply Mailings!  alp227   Dec-04-11 09:26 PM   #85 
  - Thanks, Bertman. I hope this is a viable plan. I like it.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:48 PM   #92 
  - Ding, ding, dong...I think that is a wonderful idea....I can't see how  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 10:09 PM   #103 
  - I'll see your suggestion and raise it.  mac56   Dec-05-11 03:18 PM   #155 
     - Some of the folks suggested putting a wooden shim (like the kind you buy  bertman   Dec-05-11 06:40 PM   #169 
  - This is what republicons want..`  butterfly77   Dec-04-11 06:36 PM   #27 
  - I greatly doubt it is only Republicans.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:56 PM   #96 
  - Yet another reason  chervilant   Dec-04-11 07:05 PM   #40 
  - Look at the USPS Board of Governors for who to blame  sketchy   Dec-04-11 07:12 PM   #43 
  - Please See Reply 76. and then Reply 68. Thanks.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 10:05 PM   #102 
  - Tis a funny thing Dipsydoodle, how you so casually forgot or did not point  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 07:27 PM   #51 
  - What a clusterfuck  graywarrior   Dec-04-11 07:49 PM   #56 
  - shitwad republicans  certainot   Dec-04-11 08:15 PM   #63 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 08:25 PM   #65 
  - And that's just how the Republicans want it  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Dec-04-11 08:34 PM   #66 
  - USPS Retirement funding  blaze   Dec-04-11 08:46 PM   #70 
  - Link - one of many -  summerschild   Dec-04-11 10:22 PM   #104 
  - can't imagine them being suicidal and slowing Netflix delivery  PatrynXX   Dec-04-11 08:52 PM   #74 
  - Our business takes orders online and ships via USPS.  plumbob   Dec-04-11 10:47 PM   #108 
  - A lot of small businesses are in the same boat.  girl gone mad   Dec-04-11 11:37 PM   #121 
  - The only reason you can imagine for USPS's still being around is Netflix?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 11:02 PM   #113 
  - I HATE repulicans!  luv_mykatz   Dec-04-11 09:21 PM   #83 
  - I don't think it's only Republicans.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 09:57 PM   #99 
     - You are right...Dino's are just as dangerous if not more so....  ooglymoogly   Dec-04-11 11:04 PM   #114 
  - I pray that THIS WILL RESULT IN WE THE PEOPLE  elleng   Dec-04-11 09:49 PM   #93 
  - I have a questions for the scholars among you  HeiressofBickworth   Dec-04-11 11:42 PM   #122 
  - My niece will lose her job.  Lugnut   Dec-05-11 12:17 AM   #123 
  - The plan is the destruction of the Postal Service.  Scruffy1   Dec-05-11 08:20 AM   #138 
     - Sure seems that way. See what the Democrats and Republicans can accomplish when they work together?  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:33 PM   #156 
  - I don't think that people realize the devastating effect this will have on the economy.  toddwv   Dec-05-11 12:26 AM   #124 
  - talk radio and the media have played their parts, too...  Blue_Tires   Dec-05-11 02:19 PM   #153 
  - Oh great, that just might be the final nail in the coffin of the small business I work for  Marrah_G   Dec-05-11 12:30 AM   #125 
  - Charge first class rates for the ad trash already!!  on point   Dec-05-11 01:30 AM   #128 
  - They PRC will not let them increase rates.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 09:48 AM   #140 
  - Ditto!  tilsammans   Dec-05-11 11:44 AM   #142 
  - Oh that's gotta tickle the hearts of many a republican.  gtar100   Dec-05-11 02:12 AM   #130 
  - Would you please explain to me how Repubicans are doing this on their own,  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:44 PM   #158 
     - First of all, it's not right of you to ask me to argue a point I did not make.  gtar100   Dec-05-11 07:19 PM   #171 
  - A major part of American infrastructure being privatized.  dotymed   Dec-05-11 07:18 AM   #137 
  - I just can't believe how stupid this whole thing is.  pam4water   Dec-05-11 12:06 PM   #146 
  - The Postal Service is for the"little people". They should be grateful that they even have one.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-05-11 12:13 PM   #148 
  - LOL. Damn Framers. Giving away things away to the hoi polloi in the Constitution.  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:47 PM   #159 
  - this is all union busting and payback  martigras   Dec-05-11 03:06 PM   #154 
  - That law could have been repealed any time between January 2009  No Elephants   Dec-05-11 03:52 PM   #160 
  - It was bi-partisan legislation - Henry Waxman was a co-sponsor.  hack89   Dec-05-11 04:56 PM   #164 
     - Think of all the late fees and interest payments the Big Banks  Liberalynn   Dec-06-11 10:28 AM   #181 
  - Vote by Mail  HeiressofBickworth   Dec-06-11 11:45 PM   #184 

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC