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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 05:12 PM
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42. You have not seen a credible argument that feds can regulate the sale of private property?
Edited on Sun Dec-04-11 05:14 PM by No Elephants
Well, the SCOTUS has seen MANY it found credible. And yes, veggies you grew yourself with your own seeds on your own real estate are indeed your private property.
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  -Gillibrand backs bill to battle illegal gun sales SecularMotion  Dec-04-11 11:31 AM   #0 
  - K&R shut down the gun shows  jpak   Dec-04-11 11:34 AM   #1 
  - Too bad it is a state issue and not a federal one. nt  hack89   Dec-04-11 11:38 AM   #4 
  - too bad the paperwork is filed with the feds  jpak   Dec-04-11 11:43 AM   #7 
     - The Federal government cannot impose regulations  hack89   Dec-04-11 01:07 PM   #20 
        - I do not believe that is accurate, as a matter of Constitutional law.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 01:37 PM   #25 
           - The line seems pretty clear in regards to guns  hack89   Dec-04-11 01:57 PM   #29 
              - You have not seen a credible argument that feds can regulate the sale of private property?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 05:12 PM   #42 
                 - Then why do you think no one is proposing Federal legislation  hack89   Dec-04-11 07:05 PM   #48 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 11:40 AM   #5 
  - Terrible journalism.  TheWraith   Dec-04-11 11:36 AM   #2 
  - Private sellers at gun shows don't need to do background checks or file paperwork with the ATF  jpak   Dec-04-11 11:42 AM   #6 
     - Which has nothing whatsoever to do with being at a gun show.  TheWraith   Dec-04-11 11:51 AM   #8 
     - They congregate at gun shows all the time - and "legit" gun sellers will sell 2 anyone  jpak   Dec-04-11 11:54 AM   #9 
     - Wrong again. "Gun Shows" account for -1% of illegal sales. puy.nt  SteveM   Dec-04-11 01:17 PM   #22 
     - If sales at gun shows are exempt, they should not account for any percent of sales  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 01:43 PM   #27 
        - I don't think you understand the diff. between "gun show" and kitchen table...  SteveM   Dec-04-11 02:01 PM   #31 
           - Nothing in my post could possibly have led you to conclude that I don't understand the difference  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 05:18 PM   #43 
              - Respectfully, you may still not know...  SteveM   Dec-05-11 01:30 PM   #52 
     - Are you sure about that?  burf   Dec-04-11 01:57 PM   #28 
     - They congregate at gun shows - not shopping centers - they go where the crooks go to buy guns  jpak   Dec-04-11 12:00 PM   #11 
     - Actually, the FBI says only about 1% of criminals acquired their weapon at a gun show. nt  TheWraith   Dec-04-11 12:45 PM   #14 
        - The NY Attorneys General Office begs to differ with you  jpak   Dec-04-11 12:50 PM   #16 
        - No, actually they don't.  TheWraith   Dec-04-11 12:51 PM   #18 
        - The Dallas Public Safety Committee begs to differ with the NY Attorney General  derby378   Dec-04-11 06:18 PM   #46 
        - 1% of criminals? How did the FBI come about that number?  boppers   Dec-04-11 03:14 PM   #36 
           - Uh, are you under the impression that convicts are not criminals?  TheWraith   Dec-04-11 06:50 PM   #47 
              - I'm under the impression that convictions are only loosely correlated to crime.  boppers   Dec-04-11 07:17 PM   #50 
     - ....  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 01:41 PM   #26 
     - That's bullshit and you know it.  burf   Dec-04-11 12:41 PM   #12 
        - So, if were sell you a gun out of the back of my car - you wouldn't need a background check in NY?  jpak   Dec-04-11 12:44 PM   #13 
        - Good luck in getting your car into the gun show.  burf   Dec-04-11 12:51 PM   #17 
        - You can sell in the parking lot - and most shows will allow ANYONE with an unloaded gun in  jpak   Dec-04-11 02:00 PM   #30 
           - Bullshit again  burf   Dec-04-11 02:10 PM   #34 
        - I don't know about NY, but that would be perfectly legal in MN  NickB79   Dec-04-11 02:05 PM   #33 
        - Oh yeah - this  jpak   Dec-04-11 12:46 PM   #15 
           - Ten sales at six gunshows = open marketplace?  burf   Dec-04-11 12:57 PM   #19 
              - Yes. In every single market attended, illegal sales were part of the market.  boppers   Dec-04-11 03:34 PM   #37 
              - Have you read the state statute?  burf   Dec-04-11 03:51 PM   #39 
                 - No, I have not.  boppers   Dec-04-11 05:57 PM   #45 
              - Correction:The investigation resulted in 10 ARRESTS  SecularMotion   Dec-04-11 04:46 PM   #41 
  - What are her plans about the newspaper, parking lot , and internet "loopholes" ?  hack89   Dec-04-11 11:37 AM   #3 
  - All gun sales should have background checks and the proper paperwork filed with the ATF  jpak   Dec-04-11 11:56 AM   #10 
  - You just need to convince all 50 states to pass the appropriate laws. nt  hack89   Dec-04-11 01:09 PM   #21 
  - Wrong yet again. "Lots of criminals would not get guns:" -1%? Ha. nt  SteveM   Dec-04-11 01:20 PM   #23 
     - All gun *transfers* is where checks and registrations need to happen.  boppers   Dec-04-11 03:42 PM   #38 
        - If you want to somehow extend the NICS test universally...  SteveM   Dec-05-11 01:14 PM   #51 
  - She and quite a few others, apparently. Perhaps you should enlighten them.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 02:02 PM   #32 
     - How do you think people sell and buy guns every day?  hack89   Dec-04-11 03:02 PM   #35 
        - What does your question have to do with what I posted to you?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 05:19 PM   #44 
           - Why is she and all those others ignoring the main methods that people sell guns  hack89   Dec-04-11 07:07 PM   #49 
  - Oh boy, here we go....  Edweird   Dec-04-11 01:35 PM   #24 
     - .  Edweird   Dec-04-11 04:36 PM   #40 

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