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Sun Dec-04-11 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 16. The NY Attorneys General Office begs to differ with you |
| -Gillibrand backs bill to battle illegal gun sales |
SecularMotion |
Dec-04-11 11:31 AM |
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K&R shut down the gun shows |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 11:34 AM |
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Too bad it is a state issue and not a federal one. nt |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 11:38 AM |
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too bad the paperwork is filed with the feds |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 11:43 AM |
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The Federal government cannot impose regulations |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 01:07 PM |
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I do not believe that is accurate, as a matter of Constitutional law. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 01:37 PM |
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The line seems pretty clear in regards to guns |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 01:57 PM |
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You have not seen a credible argument that feds can regulate the sale of private property? |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 05:12 PM |
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Then why do you think no one is proposing Federal legislation |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 07:05 PM |
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Dec-04-11 11:40 AM |
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Terrible journalism. |
TheWraith |
Dec-04-11 11:36 AM |
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Private sellers at gun shows don't need to do background checks or file paperwork with the ATF |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 11:42 AM |
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Which has nothing whatsoever to do with being at a gun show. |
TheWraith |
Dec-04-11 11:51 AM |
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They congregate at gun shows all the time - and "legit" gun sellers will sell 2 anyone |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 11:54 AM |
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Wrong again. "Gun Shows" account for -1% of illegal sales. puy.nt |
SteveM |
Dec-04-11 01:17 PM |
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If sales at gun shows are exempt, they should not account for any percent of sales |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 01:43 PM |
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I don't think you understand the diff. between "gun show" and kitchen table... |
SteveM |
Dec-04-11 02:01 PM |
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Nothing in my post could possibly have led you to conclude that I don't understand the difference |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 05:18 PM |
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Respectfully, you may still not know... |
SteveM |
Dec-05-11 01:30 PM |
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Are you sure about that? |
burf |
Dec-04-11 01:57 PM |
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They congregate at gun shows - not shopping centers - they go where the crooks go to buy guns |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 12:00 PM |
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Actually, the FBI says only about 1% of criminals acquired their weapon at a gun show. nt |
TheWraith |
Dec-04-11 12:45 PM |
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The NY Attorneys General Office begs to differ with you |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 12:50 PM |
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No, actually they don't. |
TheWraith |
Dec-04-11 12:51 PM |
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The Dallas Public Safety Committee begs to differ with the NY Attorney General |
derby378 |
Dec-04-11 06:18 PM |
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1% of criminals? How did the FBI come about that number? |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 03:14 PM |
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Uh, are you under the impression that convicts are not criminals? |
TheWraith |
Dec-04-11 06:50 PM |
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I'm under the impression that convictions are only loosely correlated to crime. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 07:17 PM |
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.... |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 01:41 PM |
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That's bullshit and you know it. |
burf |
Dec-04-11 12:41 PM |
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So, if were sell you a gun out of the back of my car - you wouldn't need a background check in NY? |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 12:44 PM |
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Good luck in getting your car into the gun show. |
burf |
Dec-04-11 12:51 PM |
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You can sell in the parking lot - and most shows will allow ANYONE with an unloaded gun in |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 02:00 PM |
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Bullshit again |
burf |
Dec-04-11 02:10 PM |
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I don't know about NY, but that would be perfectly legal in MN |
NickB79 |
Dec-04-11 02:05 PM |
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Oh yeah - this |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 12:46 PM |
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Ten sales at six gunshows = open marketplace? |
burf |
Dec-04-11 12:57 PM |
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Yes. In every single market attended, illegal sales were part of the market. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 03:34 PM |
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Have you read the state statute? |
burf |
Dec-04-11 03:51 PM |
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No, I have not. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 05:57 PM |
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Correction:The investigation resulted in 10 ARRESTS |
SecularMotion |
Dec-04-11 04:46 PM |
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What are her plans about the newspaper, parking lot , and internet "loopholes" ? |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 11:37 AM |
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All gun sales should have background checks and the proper paperwork filed with the ATF |
jpak |
Dec-04-11 11:56 AM |
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You just need to convince all 50 states to pass the appropriate laws. nt |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 01:09 PM |
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Wrong yet again. "Lots of criminals would not get guns:" -1%? Ha. nt |
SteveM |
Dec-04-11 01:20 PM |
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All gun *transfers* is where checks and registrations need to happen. |
boppers |
Dec-04-11 03:42 PM |
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If you want to somehow extend the NICS test universally... |
SteveM |
Dec-05-11 01:14 PM |
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She and quite a few others, apparently. Perhaps you should enlighten them. |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 02:02 PM |
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How do you think people sell and buy guns every day? |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 03:02 PM |
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What does your question have to do with what I posted to you? |
No Elephants |
Dec-04-11 05:19 PM |
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Why is she and all those others ignoring the main methods that people sell guns |
hack89 |
Dec-04-11 07:07 PM |
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Oh boy, here we go.... |
Edweird |
Dec-04-11 01:35 PM |
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Edweird |
Dec-04-11 04:36 PM |
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