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39. Interesting times, I remember reports from 2005/2006 about drone flights
In June, Brigadier General Amir-Ali Hajizadeh, the commander of the Guards' aerospace unit, said Iran had shown Russian experts the US drones in its possession.

"Russian experts requested to see these drones and they looked at both the downed drones and the models made by the Guards through reverse engineering," he said.

Hajizadeh did not specify how many US drones were shown nor gave any details of the copies Iran was said to have made of the aircraft.

The US military and the CIA routinely use drones to monitor military activity in the region.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2011/12/201112415991...

The Case for Engagement

Scott Ritter

...

The Bush Administration speaks of the need to move quickly on the issue of Iran's nuclear ambition and to roll back the forces of terror represented by the Islamic Republic. The repeated and explicit demand of the Administration is for regime change, as evidenced in the March 2006 "National Security Strategy of the United States," where Iran is named repeatedly as the number-one threat to the United States. The alleged Iranian threat espoused by Bush is based on fear, and arises from a combination of ignorance and ideological inflexibility. The path that the United States is currently embarked on regarding Iran is a path that will lead to war. (Indeed, there are numerous unconfirmed reports that the United States has already begun covert military operations inside Iran, including overflights by pilotless drones and recruitment and training of MEK, Kurdish and Azeri guerrillas.) Such a course of action would make even the historic blunder of the Iraq invasion pale by comparison. When we talk of war, we must never forget that we are talking about the lives of the men and women who serve us in the armed forces. We have a duty and responsibility to insure that all options short of war are exhausted before any decision to enter into conflict is made. On the issue of Iran, the United States hasn't even come close to exhausting the available options.

http://www.thenation.com/article/case-engagement?page=f...
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  -Iran military shoots down U.S. drone: state TV Bosonic  Dec-04-11 08:33 AM   #0 
  - Good.  Arctic Dave   Dec-04-11 08:37 AM   #1 
  - One use of drones is to make an enemy reveal his capablities  hack89   Dec-04-11 08:40 AM   #4 
  - True.  Arctic Dave   Dec-04-11 08:51 AM   #6 
     - ...  NutmegYankee   Dec-04-11 09:19 AM   #8 
     - All militarists lie. Ours is no better.  Arctic Dave   Dec-04-11 11:40 AM   #27 
        - Except that...  reACTIONary   Dec-04-11 03:11 PM   #43 
     - And you really believe them without any evidence?  hack89   Dec-04-11 09:31 AM   #14 
        - Unlike the U.S. gov't, which lies all the time.  truth2power   Dec-04-11 09:33 AM   #16 
        - All governments lie - is that a big surprise? nt  hack89   Dec-04-11 09:35 AM   #18 
        - U.S. official: Iran does have our drone  Judi Lynn   Dec-09-11 03:56 PM   #53 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-04-11 09:30 AM   #12 
  - So you automatically believe a statement by Iran  treestar   Dec-04-11 01:04 PM   #31 
  - Too bad it didn't crash into Der Fuhrer Ahmadinejad  chrisa   Dec-04-11 01:57 PM   #35 
     - Well if we are wishing, let's add to that list.  Arctic Dave   Dec-04-11 08:50 PM   #48 
  - They have every right to...  Dennis Donovan   Dec-04-11 08:38 AM   #2 
  - Total cost per drone: $218 million. Fat profits for MIC.  Divernan   Dec-04-11 09:27 AM   #11 
  - Because drones are more fun.  UnrepentantLiberal   Dec-04-11 12:28 PM   #29 
  - What height do they fly at ?  dipsydoodle   Dec-04-11 08:39 AM   #3 
  - Maximum of about 15km  inademv   Dec-04-11 09:26 AM   #10 
     - "drone video and flight control feeds are not encrypted... at all"  TheWraith   Dec-04-11 11:00 AM   #25 
     - But they are encrypted  Akarion   Dec-04-11 11:53 AM   #28 
  - I think I will wait for the pictures of the wreck. nt  hack89   Dec-04-11 08:43 AM   #5 
  - Lets wait for confirmation on this one  ProgressiveProfessor   Dec-04-11 08:56 AM   #7 
  - I remember when the Iranian military shot down Carter's rescue plane  Chipper Chat   Dec-04-11 10:56 AM   #24 
  - +1  treestar   Dec-04-11 01:07 PM   #33 
  - Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel  FarCenter   Dec-04-11 09:21 AM   #9 
  - If true I wonder if they took control and were the ones that made it enter their air space  cstanleytech   Dec-04-11 09:30 AM   #13 
  - Wonder why they don't release any pictures of it, nt  hack89   Dec-04-11 09:32 AM   #15 
  - Only a matter of time.  bahrbearian   Dec-04-11 09:39 AM   #19 
  - I'm a little skeptical about the "took control" part; more likely it malfunctioned  FarCenter   Dec-04-11 09:43 AM   #21 
  - More links  FarCenter   Dec-04-11 09:55 AM   #23 
  - They made a similiar claim in July which they later recanted. nt  hack89   Dec-04-11 09:34 AM   #17 
  - I don't understand why people think it's a bad thing that Iran shot down our drone....  truth2power   Dec-04-11 09:42 AM   #20 
  - The military expects drones to be shot down  hack89   Dec-04-11 09:50 AM   #22 
  - There's a knee jerk anti-US thing going on here  treestar   Dec-04-11 01:06 PM   #32 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 02:28 PM   #38 
     - Knee jerk, to use his own phrase, Obama supporters have no credibility to suffer.  Divernan   Dec-04-11 05:44 PM   #45 
        - Oh baloney. Obama was elected POTUS  treestar   Dec-06-11 11:26 AM   #50 
     - It's not an accident. and I'm not "cheering" for Iran. I'm just sick and tired  truth2power   Dec-04-11 06:12 PM   #47 
        - You are kind of assuming Iran is right  treestar   Dec-06-11 11:26 AM   #49 
  - Oh, and that "we will cut defense" thing? Oh yes, I see THAT happening.  Safetykitten   Dec-04-11 11:10 AM   #26 
  - ISAF says drone lost over Afghanistan late last week  Bosonic   Dec-04-11 01:00 PM   #30 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 01:25 PM   #34 
  - Well, at some point they might.  Robb   Dec-04-11 02:16 PM   #36 
  - BBC News latest says :  dipsydoodle   Dec-04-11 02:27 PM   #37 
  - Interesting times, I remember reports from 2005/2006 about drone flights  jakeXT   Dec-04-11 02:49 PM   #39 
  - Iran Says It Shot Down Unmanned U.S. Plane  ZombieHorde   Dec-04-11 03:03 PM   #40 
  - You can't trust anything Iran says but  Drale   Dec-04-11 03:03 PM   #41 
     - Is there any government you trust to tell you the truth? nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-04-11 03:03 PM   #42 
  - Oh dear, this is going to get bad.  Odin2005   Dec-04-11 03:14 PM   #44 
  - I don't see why this would cause an international incident  octothorpe   Dec-04-11 06:00 PM   #46 
  - Iran shows film of captured US drone  Bosonic   Dec-08-11 02:49 PM   #51 
  - odd looking creature...  ileus   Dec-08-11 03:19 PM   #52 
  - Self-destruct mechanisms ... where iz they?  Shoe Horn   Dec-09-11 06:10 PM   #54 
 

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