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26. That's my read on it, too. The Bushwhacks corrupted everything they touched including the DEA.
The DEA and the U.S. ambassador got thrown out of Bolivia (by Evo Morales--an action that the entire continent stood behind) because the DEA and the U.S. ambassador were colluding with white separatist rioters and murderers who intended to split Bolivia in two and gain power over Bolivia's main gas resources in the eastern provinces. This was one of the final acts of the Bush Junta--trying to overthrow Bolivia's democracy--while they were arranging their final looting of the U.S. government and instigating a worldwide depression (Sept 2008).

The U.S. (Bushwhack) ambassador Philip Goldberg was funding/organizing the white separatists right out of the U.S. embassy in Bolivia. But what somewhat surprised me during those events was that Morales also threw out the DEA for the same reason. It got me to thinking about what the U.S. "war on drugs" in Bushwhack hands would be used for.

Here are my suspicions:

1) They used it----that is, they used billions and billions of our tax dollars in U.S. "war on drugs" funds--most especially in Colombia, for consolidating the trillion+ dollar cocaine revenue stream into fewer hands and directing those huge illicit profits to certain beneficiaries (U.S. banksters, the Bush Cartel, the CIA, etc.);

2) They used it to decapitate the trade union movement in Colombia, and to drive five MILLION peasant farmers from their lands, with state terror, as a favor to their pals at Drummond Coal, Chiquita, Monsanto, Exxon Mobil et al, to prepare Colombia for U.S. "free trade for the rich"; and

3) These were the Bushwhack "war on drugs" purposes throughout Latin America, notably in Venezuela (the Chavez government also threw the U.S. ambassador and the DEA out of the country), Ecuador (ditto), Honduras (rightwing coup d'etat designed by the Bushwhacks, sprung on Obama six months into his administration before he could get control of policy in Latin America), and Mexico where the Bush Junta helped rig the 2005 election (the Leftist lost by a hairsbreadth, 0.05%, in what is widely believed to have been a stolen election) and then (under rightwinger Calderon) proceeded to inflict this bloody war on Mexico, NOT to stop the drug trade but to PROFIT from it (--get rid of the smaller, more independent operations; control the consolidated trade; and turn Mexico into Colombia--a bloodsoaked rightwing dictatorship in which violation of civil and human rights is routine, labor leaders and other advocates of the poor have no power and many voters are fooled into supporting militaristic "law and order" policies for relief from the violence (which never comes) and in hope that the criminal trade will be stopped (which it never is).

Where I think the Obama administration stands on all this--Bush Junta "war on drugs" crimes (especially in Colombia)--is that they are under obligation to cover it up. Just as they immunized Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and gang on the Iraq War, torture and other mind-boggling crimes, they have had to ( or feel that they have had to) cover up U.S. (Bushwhack) complicity in the crimes of mafia boss Alvaro Uribe, 'president' of Colombia during the Bush Junta, which may have included U.S. military and/or U.S. military 'contractor' participation in massacres and "turkey shoots" and very likely included direct U.S. embassy participation in Uribe's vast, illegal, domestic spying operation (--Uribe was spying on judges, prosecutors and opposition politicians, and on trade unionists and other advocates of the poor, and has been accused of using the spying operation to draw up "hit lists" of trade union leaders and others for the Colombian military and its closely tied righrtwing paramilitary death squads to assassinate).

Finally, as to the Corporate Press--which I have been closely monitoring in regard to U.S. activity in Latin America--I thought at first that your comment ("limited hangout") referred to the New York Slimes. I realize now that what you were saying is that the DEA is involved in a "limited hangout" probably ahead of disclosures (that we will not likely hear much about in the Corporate Press) of "bad apple" agents/commanders in the DEA or other "war on drugs" agencies. But my condemnation extends to the New York Slimes as well, and to ALL of the Corporate Press and Media. THEY have allowed themselves to become the conduits of "limited hangouts," coverups and corporate/government propaganda across the board. Think, for a moment, about the New York Slimes withholding their story about Bush Junta domestic spying for an entire year, to help ensure that Bush/Cheney would be re-(s)elected in 2004--not to mention their promulgation of goddamned lies about "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq. They were/are doing the same number on Latin America--lies, coverups, propaganda.

There is evidence for all of the above (Bush Junta crimes in Colombia; Obama coverup). I am not basing my stated suspicions on nothing. But what infuriates me even more is that, I realize by now, the Corporate Press and Media will NEVER investigate this, EXCEPT as a "limited hangout." They will help cover it up; they will NEVER seek or tell the truth. Maybe their bank accounts are getting padded with cocaine profits as well--I don't know. But there are several reasons why the Obama administration would cover all this up and why the Corporate Press and Media would act as a government propaganda arm about it (as they have done on other matters). These include the fact that U.S. "war on drugs" instigated violence serves the purposes of U.S. "free trade for the rich" and provides a backup war profiteer boondoggle (on top of outright wars).

One other thing: I think that the "secret government" (the Bush Cartel and associates) is totally out of control and cannot be "gotten." We are in other words in the vulture clutches of a transglobal mafia that has committed, and is committing, terrible crimes throughout the world and is answerable to no one. Just as in Colombia, our government was directly run by this extremely powerful mafia for eight years and subsequent governments (Obama in the U.S., Santos in Colombia), however they come about, CANNOT (or think they cannot) go after the mafia dons, and they thus become collusive in the crimes. (U.S. "free trade for the rich" also benefits from these crimes--for instance, clearing the peasants off the land in Colombia--so supporters of U.S. "free trade for the rich"--such as Obama and Santos--are also inclined to look the other way. But I think mostly that their hands are tied. They don't have the power to hold the Bush Junta or their operatives to account. Obama would not be president for long, if he tried to. And the same is probably true of Santos*.)


*(Colombian prosecutors are trying to hold Uribe to account--but have been undermined by U.S./Obama (including Panetta/CIA) actions. Here, nobody--and I mean NOBODY--is even trying to investigate the Bush Junta. Got to give credit to Colombian prosecutors but I think that, while Santos may be allied with them, as to cleaning up Colombia's government and nailing Uribe and others, Santos has to tread carefully. The U.S. has arranged things so that Uribe is not only still at large, but also has ambitions and a plan to regain power in Colombia. He has split the rightwing party into pro-Uribe (mafia) and pro-Santos (cleaner government) factions. His candidates didn't do well in the recent elections but that doesn't mean that he can't regain power. He can. He has an extensive network of death squads and other operatives in Colombia and is closely allied with Bush Sr and Bush Jr and their worldwide criminal operation. If Diebold/ES&S decides to oust Obama next year and bring in Bush junta II, Uribe is waiting in the wings to be re-installed in Colombia. The main advantage that Santos has is that he has allied with the continent-wide movement toward independence in South America. For instance, his very first action in office was to make peace with Venezuela. The Leftists, who control regional policy now, are moving swiftly toward cooperation on peace and social justice, "south-south" and multilateral trade and protection of the sovereignty of Latin American countries. In fact, their new Latin America-wide organization--CELAC (which has been called the anti-OAS)--is meeting in Caracas this week, with every Latin American country in attendance and the U.S. and Canada excluded. Santos sees the "handwriting on the wall." He surely is a U.S. "free trade for the rich" operative but he ALSO sees the advantage for Colombia of friendly relations and trade with the countries leading this movement (Venezuela, Brazil, Ecuador, Argentina, Bolivia, Uruguay, Paraguay, Nicaragua and others) and that gives him some protection (--against Uribe, who was at war with it and even tried to start a hot war between the U.S./Colombia and Ecuador/Venezuela, in early 2008, and was still trying to instigate a war with Venezuela in his last weeks in power ).)

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  -D.E.A. Launders Mexican Profits of Drug Cartels alp227  Dec-04-11 01:19 AM   #0 
  - One gets the impression that Washington is all over the place with their cartel policies  RZM   Dec-04-11 01:36 AM   #1 
  - DEA Agents Agree: CIA means Cocaine Importation Agency  Octafish   Dec-04-11 10:16 AM   # 
  - Octafish.please read my comment #55  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 03:31 PM   #56 
  - +1 again..... Thank you Octafish.  Hotler   Dec-05-11 08:39 AM   #93 
  - The problem is that "Washington" isn't all one thing.  TheWraith   Dec-04-11 01:37 PM   #48 
  - I was trying to intimate that fact in my headline  RZM   Dec-04-11 01:51 PM   #50 
  - Yes, but when your overall policy ie; "War on Drugs" is draconian, dysfunctional and corruptive  Uncle Joe   Dec-05-11 12:07 PM   #103 
  - It/They sure are with their "gun smuggling" operations. Pheww. nt  SteveM   Dec-04-11 02:04 PM   #51 
  - End the double standard.  Callisto32   Dec-04-11 05:19 AM   #2 
  - LMITED HANGOUT.  Zhade   Dec-04-11 05:24 AM   #3 
  - Also Plausible Deniability  MaineDeadHead   Dec-04-11 05:51 AM   #4 
  - Ain't that the truth. eom  a la izquierda   Dec-04-11 05:58 AM   #5 
  - Welcome to DU. eom.  Hotler   Dec-04-11 07:57 AM   #8 
  - The DEA agents that I know are brave, courageous, honest,  DebJ   Dec-04-11 08:06 AM   #11 
  - RE : The DEA agents that I know are brave, courageous, honest,  TatonkaJames   Dec-04-11 10:33 AM   #25 
  - You are talking about destroying a multi billion dollar industry  zeemike   Dec-04-11 11:14 AM   #36 
  - TatonkaJames, I am SURE that there are honest DEA agents...  Peace Patriot   Dec-04-11 11:21 AM   #37 
  - RE: "As for legalizing drugs improving peoples lives? Answer me this"  Xicano   Dec-04-11 12:11 PM   #42 
  - Pharma Drugs kill more people than illegal drugs  TatonkaJames   Dec-04-11 01:37 PM   #47 
  - "Drugs are illegal"? Uh no.  boppers   Dec-04-11 03:53 PM   #59 
  - Well, there are several improvements legalization would make.  PavePusher   Dec-04-11 10:54 AM   #28 
  - how about all of the innocent people who have been killed  newspeak   Dec-04-11 11:10 AM   #34 
  - How in the world you think anything as corrupt and disruptive to nations and citizens as Drug War ..  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 11:57 AM   #40 
  - +1000  DeSwiss   Dec-04-11 09:58 PM   #86 
  - DEA are scum.  Webster Green   Dec-04-11 12:42 PM   #45 
  - There is nothing wrong with defending a DEA agent  Hutzpa   Dec-04-11 03:45 PM   #57 
  - I feel the same way about the brave nurses in my family who  midnight   Dec-04-11 05:52 PM   #79 
  - No need to legaize heroin and Meth... but let's stop filling jails with non-violent Weed smokers.  lib2DaBone   Dec-04-11 06:26 PM   #81 
  - Agreed. We shouldn't lump all drugs together. Marijuana and crack are not similar. nt  limpyhobbler   Dec-04-11 11:53 PM   #89 
  - Brave.. courageous.honest...? That is stretching a lot.. not just a little...  lib2DaBone   Dec-04-11 06:58 PM   #83 
  - You and I have either met different DEA agents, or they percieve you and not me as one of "them"  saras   Dec-05-11 12:02 AM   #90 
  - sorry, all DEA are scum, they willingly are working in pursuit of a murderous, tyrannical policy  stockholmer   Dec-05-11 12:26 AM   #91 
  - Lmao. This is rich.  krabigirl   Dec-05-11 11:20 AM   #101 
  - The DEA and ALL of it's agents are worthless scum. They are garbage and deserve treatment as such.  Dawson Leery   Dec-06-11 12:31 PM   #112 
     - kick  Dawson Leery   Dec-07-11 09:29 PM   #119 
  - bingo  limpyhobbler   Dec-04-11 08:10 AM   #13 
  - Matthews referred to "modified limited hangout" last week, in a different context.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 06:13 AM   #6 
  - That's my read on it, too. The Bushwhacks corrupted everything they touched including the DEA.  Peace Patriot   Dec-04-11 10:33 AM   #26 
  - Organized crime only exists at the pleasure and with the help of elites/corps who control our  defendandprotect   Dec-04-11 10:53 PM   #88 
  - There is evidence that the CIA was active against leftist governments in LatAm.  Peace Patriot   Dec-05-11 10:18 AM   #95 
     - What CIA was doing around the world, they also did in USA ... which is why we are so damaged -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 10:25 AM   #96 
  - Wow! n/t  Hotler   Dec-05-11 08:02 AM   #92 
  - at least.  russspeakeasy   Dec-04-11 04:28 PM   #62 
  - We must create evil in order to fight evil, except we don't really fight evil all that much, either.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 06:15 AM   #7 
  - But these tactics do end up catching some really big dealers,  DebJ   Dec-04-11 08:00 AM   #9 
  - So what?  Ezlivin   Dec-04-11 09:58 AM   #19 
  - So how do you regulate a user of cocaine, for example, one  DebJ   Dec-04-11 10:13 AM   #21 
  - Do kids see their parents drink alcohol?  PavePusher   Dec-04-11 10:57 AM   #30 
  - This is an argument for the prohibition of alcohol and cigarettes and who knows what else.  JackRiddler   Dec-04-11 01:48 PM   #49 
  - Help them, don't throw them in jail.  krabigirl   Dec-05-11 11:18 AM   #99 
  - I want to see the big dope dealers rotting in jail cells. I  DebJ   Dec-04-11 10:15 AM   #22 
  - What you're talking about  theaocp   Dec-04-11 11:12 AM   #35 
  - Presume you know that would be top government officials -- ???  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 10:28 AM   #97 
  - "Ain't nobody's Business if you do" yes it is because it rots  DebJ   Dec-04-11 10:16 AM   #23 
     - DebJ, I hear you. And I agree to this extent: We should be helping families and children  Peace Patriot   Dec-04-11 12:01 PM   #41 
     - What deb said reminds me of a statement by michael moore  newspeak   Dec-05-11 12:29 PM   #105 
     - Do you like and enjoy freedom?  Ezlivin   Dec-05-11 04:45 PM   #107 
  - If the DEA were effective, how does drug abuse destroy so many people?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 02:13 PM   #52 
  - Wow..  krabigirl   Dec-05-11 11:19 AM   #100 
  - Goodness, We Sure Are Selective About It, Aren't We?  NashVegas   Dec-05-11 12:10 PM   #104 
  - They're running guns and laundering money.  CanonRay   Dec-04-11 08:04 AM   #10 
  - Is anyone else connecting the dots here?  Le Taz Hot   Dec-04-11 08:10 AM   #12 
  - Legal dispensaries are not exactly big crime, either, are they?  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 02:22 PM   #53 
  - The New York Times left out the part about....  Hotler   Dec-04-11 08:25 AM   #14 
  - of course  Rosa Luxemburg   Dec-04-11 09:27 AM   #17 
  - "which banks and companies are being used by the D.E.A. to launder the money?"  dixiegrrrrl   Dec-04-11 09:41 AM   #18 
  - AND the BIGGESTbanking cartel of them all is...  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 10:10 AM   #20 
  - I was wonder that. CIA running the drugs. Federal Reserve laundering it. eom.  Hotler   Dec-04-11 04:42 PM   #65 
  - Thanks. That lead me to some interesting information.  Gregorian   Dec-04-11 09:45 PM   #85 
  - K/R  defendandprotect   Dec-05-11 10:29 AM   #98 
  - Excellent point. And only scratching the surface.  JackRiddler   Dec-04-11 11:42 AM   #39 
  - but are the CEOs of these banks nervous?  Rosa Luxemburg   Dec-04-11 12:58 PM   #46 
  - Viktor Bout was charged with money laundering...  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 03:24 PM   #55 
  - Shit! I forgot about the BCCI. They know how to run drugs  Hotler   Dec-04-11 04:46 PM   #66 
  - That was really deep too...  deconstruct911   Dec-04-11 04:22 PM   #61 
  - Let's not forget "Sir Allen Stanford" of Houston,Texas  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 04:41 PM   #64 
     - I think he got his ass kick in prison awhile back. eom.  Hotler   Dec-04-11 04:48 PM   #67 
        - Here's a few TOP links for Stanford and Bush entrerprises and a "Sir"prize,too!  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 04:57 PM   #70 
  - Remember Operation Gladio and "suicided" banker Roberto Calvi...  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 05:16 PM   #73 
  - I think that was even connected to Clearstream.....  deconstruct911   Dec-04-11 05:22 PM   #74 
     - Veddy interesting that so many on SCOTUS are now Opus Dei  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 06:19 PM   #80 
  - More in your face  deconstruct911   Dec-12-11 02:18 AM   #120 
     - More stuff that makes you go hmmmmm! n/t  Hotler   Dec-12-11 07:29 AM   #121 
  - The irony...  deconstruct911   Dec-04-11 04:58 PM   #71 
     - That is awesome. Thank you. eom.  Hotler   Dec-04-11 05:15 PM   #72 
  - New York Times Mexican Connection  Selena Harris   Dec-04-11 03:50 PM   #58 
  - Catherine Austin Fitts names names.  Octafish   Dec-04-11 04:36 PM   #63 
     - +1 n/t  Hotler   Dec-04-11 04:55 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 09:12 AM   #15 
  - I remember poppy bush  newspeak   Dec-04-11 10:36 AM   #27 
  - Sounds like the Reagan era  Rosa Luxemburg   Dec-04-11 09:25 AM   #16 
  - I don't remember having a really good feeling about the U.S.  russspeakeasy   Dec-04-11 10:56 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 10:26 AM   #24 
  - I think you need to go further back  newspeak   Dec-04-11 11:04 AM   #32 
  - Daniel Hopsicker's ...nt  wildbilln864   Dec-04-11 11:02 AM   #31 
  - +1 n/t  Hotler   Dec-04-11 04:52 PM   #68 
  - How many times must I say it?  theaocp   Dec-04-11 11:07 AM   #33 
  - The war on drugs needs to end NOW!!  Initech   Dec-04-11 11:31 AM   #38 
  - Ha! "Fight" against drug cartels. Yeah, the US fights against drug cartels  valerief   Dec-04-11 12:18 PM   #43 
  - K & R - bookmarking  Raksha   Dec-04-11 12:24 PM   #44 
  - The DEA is essentially a criminal organization, worse than the mafia.  FreeBillClinton   Dec-04-11 03:13 PM   #54 
  - and does anyone really think the "drug cartels' built those tunnels  mrarundale   Dec-04-11 04:18 PM   #60 
  - K&R n/t  DeSwiss   Dec-04-11 05:29 PM   #75 
  - Shocking.  EFerrari   Dec-04-11 05:32 PM   #76 
  - I wish I could say I'm shocked by this...  NICO9000   Dec-04-11 05:41 PM   #77 
  - PSSST !  hourglass1   Dec-04-11 05:51 PM   #78 
  - Let me ask a simple question... What if.....  lib2DaBone   Dec-04-11 06:46 PM   #82 
  - Didn't Reagan (Iran Contra) prove that DEA trades drugs for guns?  lib2DaBone   Dec-04-11 07:01 PM   #84 
  - Kicking cause this is a good read. eom.  Hotler   Dec-05-11 08:42 AM   #94 
  - K & R. nt  bertman   Dec-04-11 09:59 PM   #87 
  - This Federal Government is self serving and out of Control  DreamSmoker   Dec-05-11 12:04 PM   #102 
  - Our Government is running illegal Guns and now Cash?  Hotler   Dec-05-11 04:55 PM   #109 
     - Since WW2 is probably very accurate  deconstruct911   Dec-05-11 06:38 PM   #110 
        - but money laundering for drugs  newspeak   Dec-06-11 09:52 AM   #111 
           - yes. the War on Drugs provides a way for terrorists to raise money  RainDog   Dec-06-11 03:15 PM   #113 
           - ...  deconstruct911   Dec-06-11 03:58 PM   #114 
              - How old is that toon? eom.  Hotler   Dec-06-11 04:07 PM   #115 
                 - I decided to find out lol  deconstruct911   Dec-06-11 07:40 PM   #117 
                    - Wow! That toon goes back to the Gary Webb stories. eom.  Hotler   Dec-06-11 07:49 PM   #118 
  - kick 4 exposure. nt  wildbilln864   Dec-05-11 04:06 PM   #106 
  - & kick again! nt  wildbilln864   Dec-06-11 05:28 PM   #116 
  - kicking n/t  Hotler   Dec-05-11 04:50 PM   #108 

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