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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 06:50 AM
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79. pitohui
pitohui

True, US is one of the country's I have on my list "to do" before I die.. At the moment I'm not exactly in the position to travel to the US, but hopefully I'm able to save up some money in a couple of years, and be able to visit your amazing country and at least look at some of the marvels US are so rightfully known for... US is absolutely a country worth visit.

And yes, long before I'm visiting your country, I would have been "screened" both with the visa thing, and at the home airport "who are Gardermoen".. And them maybe even in another airport on the way over, it all depend of which airport I'm flying from to US I guess.. It goes direct link from Gardermoen every summer, so I guess that will be the not a lot of hassle at least..

Well, our nature I think you will love to visit, but we are one of the more expensive country's to visit, and the US currency is not what it one was worth.. I think it is at 5.50 for each Dollar at the moment.. When i started to look at US currency a decade ago, it was almost 8.0 NKR for each dollar.. So either have the US dollar lost a lot of value, or the Norwegian currency got a lot stronger... I'm not sure ;) But even with the less value of the US currency I belive you can get a decent vacation here in Norway too. And most of us, know at least english good, with, or withouth an accent.. The younger generations tend to be better in english than I am ;) (yeah Im starting to be old :P )

But, even with all the exaggerations it is a scary thing to se, and I have the misfortune of having a bullsize on my, who says "border agents, please take him in for further check".. Even tho I never have any thing other than maybe a bottle of whine to much in my luggage ore some rather stinky socks.).. At one time when I arrived home I almost got the full 9 yard at the border, as the custom officials was rather intrusive (and that was Long before sept 11 2001) but thankfully it was hot she who had the upper hand, as the senior officer understood that I was not an drug currier from Sweden :P Oh, well, I got home in one piece then in the end, without the "bend over please" But it was not exactly funny to be in a tight spot. And it sounds like TSA is far worse than our own border agents in doing uncomfortable things with wisitors... It is sad, that many who might have visit your country, choose to visit other nations, rather than go true the TSA proses.. I can understand why US wanted to be more secure after sept 11, no problem to understand it at all..But I fear that the TSA was going little over board in their willingness to keep illegals out of the country - or people who wanted to to your harm.. Even my old, little gray heared foster mother who never had so much as a driving ticket to show for, was almost denied aces to US a couple of years ago - as TSA was not able to "read" her passport, they doesn't had the right tool for reading this new passport they demanded all to have, if they wanted to visit US. The whole group she was in, was detained in a room for more than 4 hours, before they, without as much as a apology was granted access to the US.. She was, without a say, rather annoyed been kept in a small rom for more than 4 hours, because TSA doesn't had the right tool to read the passports.. And, even tho some of the histories about TSA is been overtelling to make a statement, it is to many stories about outright misuse of the TSA power to just say "it dosent matter": When the agents ar frisking a 5 year child, who are absolutely NOT comfortable been tutched from a forreigher (it was a big case a year ago around thanksgiving/cristmas) then they might be little to strict in their "understanding"..Common sense tell that a 5 year old child are not a danger to the airport, or to the airliners as a whole, they are for the most part pottytrained and able to go to the bathroom on their own when needed. And for the most part act properly when not tired or irritated, or both. Even the bulgarian secret police was not frisking us, when we was wisiting their country in 1986, even tho they had all the tools to do so, and I was maybe 10 when we first wisited the "other side of the iron curtain" first time!.

Oh, well, time will show I guess ;)..

Diclotican
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  -85-year-old says she was strip searched at JFK Judi Lynn  Dec-03-11 02:21 PM   #0 
  - Wow. How have we fallen into this weird universe. It seems like  The Wielding Truth   Dec-03-11 02:26 PM   #1 
  - Yes  Enthusiast   Dec-04-11 03:56 AM   #28 
  - How? Fear. People are so afraid of everything nowadays.  krabigirl   Dec-04-11 01:15 PM   #55 
  - That was criminal behavior on the part of the TSA. Period. n/t  CaliforniaPeggy   Dec-03-11 02:28 PM   #2 
  - Unless the story is BS  oberliner   Dec-03-11 02:40 PM   #6 
  - ... Transportation Security Administration said in a statement Saturday that no strip search was  struggle4progress   Dec-04-11 01:01 PM   #50 
     - Ahhh...so she was playing the "Granny card" because Sonny didn't get her to the  MADem   Dec-04-11 01:17 PM   #56 
        - Granny card right, son is an arse  flpab   Dec-05-11 05:44 AM   #75 
  - Seriously - it wasn't the fault of TSA that she missed the flight -  hedgehog   Dec-03-11 02:29 PM   #3 
  - The point is that even a pat down of an 85 year old is absurd.  Marnie   Dec-03-11 08:07 PM   #20 
  - Do you support profiling passengers based on age?  oberliner   Dec-04-11 09:15 AM   #43 
  - wheels up time is not boarding time people  flpab   Dec-05-11 05:46 AM   #76 
  - I thought the headline said "85 year old says she was stripped searched by JFK"  deutsey   Dec-03-11 02:29 PM   #4 
  - The age is about right--if that was Chapter One of her memoirs! nt  MADem   Dec-03-11 02:58 PM   #10 
  - Ow.  Jackpine Radical   Dec-04-11 12:10 PM   #46 
  - lol  dipsydoodle   Dec-04-11 12:35 PM   #47 
  - Once I was injured and needed a wheelchair to go throught  BlueToTheBone   Dec-03-11 02:36 PM   #5 
  - Extraordinarily disturbing that the administration would allow such blatant violations of  indepat   Dec-03-11 02:43 PM   #7 
  - see...  shanti   Dec-06-11 02:07 AM   #85 
  - Don't complain  JJW   Dec-03-11 02:48 PM   #8 
  - LOL  gtar100   Dec-03-11 04:14 PM   #14 
  - If she had been "profiled" this never would have happened to her.  MADem   Dec-03-11 02:55 PM   #9 
  - She WAS profiled. Asking not to go through the scanner put her in a suspicious category..  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 03:06 AM   #25 
  - What I am saying, though, is that if she had been profiled in the ILLEGAL fashion,  MADem   Dec-04-11 06:23 AM   #36 
  - Sorry, what you call being "honest here," I call several other things, none of which are positive.  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 06:19 PM   #70 
     - I am gobsmacked myself, because you spent all that effort yelling at me  MADem   Dec-04-11 08:09 PM   #72 
  - Lol, exerting constitutional rights now makes one suspicious. Awesome. Nt  krabigirl   Dec-04-11 01:17 PM   #57 
  - IMO we should all put up with it rather than presume  treestar   Dec-04-11 01:09 PM   #52 
  - Oh, profiling--the illegal kind that they use in Israel and elsewhere--goes way beyond that.  MADem   Dec-04-11 01:26 PM   #59 
     - Where does this info come from?  treestar   Dec-04-11 02:28 PM   #61 
        - You mean the datamining?  MADem   Dec-04-11 02:33 PM   #62 
  - racial profiling is discrimination and we shouldn't take tips from countries  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-05-11 04:19 PM   #82 
  - I've seen shocking stuff...  SoapBox   Dec-03-11 03:11 PM   #11 
  - to flight attendant  flpab   Dec-04-11 06:15 AM   #34 
  - It sounds like the govt is trying to kill the airline industry. nt  valerief   Dec-03-11 03:35 PM   #12 
  - TSA and their corporate backers could really give a shit.  gtar100   Dec-03-11 04:10 PM   #13 
  - Pathetic ...like scared little rats ...fear the terrorist ....fuck that fear shit! ...  L0oniX   Dec-03-11 04:48 PM   #15 
  - +1  Dawson Leery   Dec-03-11 06:58 PM   #18 
  - +1, completely agree.  krabigirl   Dec-04-11 01:18 PM   #58 
  - So, how many terrorist plots have been interrupted by TSA?  HereSince1628   Dec-03-11 04:51 PM   #16 
  - Not plots as such, but  hedgehog   Dec-04-11 02:41 PM   #63 
     - Remarkably consistent numbers  HereSince1628   Dec-04-11 03:32 PM   #64 
        - it's texas  pitohui   Dec-04-11 05:51 PM   #67 
           - Yes, but it's remarkably consistent for 'rare' events  HereSince1628   Dec-05-11 06:25 AM   #78 
              - It makes perfect sense actually. If you have say, 20 guns among  hedgehog   Dec-05-11 08:18 AM   #80 
  - I think America has gone into Paranoid Schizophrenia  lovuian   Dec-03-11 05:19 PM   #17 
  - lovuian  Diclotican   Dec-04-11 05:17 AM   #31 
  - lovuian  Diclotican   Dec-04-11 05:18 AM   #32 
  - diclotican, come visit, don't let exaggerations stop you!  pitohui   Dec-04-11 05:59 PM   #68 
  - pitohui  Diclotican   Dec-05-11 06:50 AM   #79 
  - Dioclotcan you get it  lovuian   Dec-05-11 11:41 PM   #83 
  - I think Paranoid Schizophrenics are more sane  bloom   Dec-04-11 09:54 AM   #44 
  - Which is why I don't fly.  SavWriter   Dec-03-11 07:35 PM   #19 
  - TSA victims unite! nt  kgnu_fan   Dec-03-11 09:03 PM   #21 
  - How believable is this story?  oberliner   Dec-03-11 09:24 PM   #22 
  - At some point, the vast number of people who keep complaining  ThomCat   Dec-03-11 11:52 PM   #23 
  - That is true  oberliner   Dec-04-11 04:25 AM   #30 
     - It is also possible she is telling the absolute truth.  ThomCat   Dec-04-11 08:23 PM   #73 
  - TSA is Government. Would you like a short list of Government  Downwinder   Dec-04-11 03:15 AM   #26 
  - There is a pretty long list of random people making stuff up as well  oberliner   Dec-04-11 04:23 AM   #29 
     - correct  flpab   Dec-04-11 06:19 AM   #35 
        - If her mom was dying, wouldn't the ticket be recently bought?  glowing   Dec-04-11 06:53 AM   #38 
        - correct but  flpab   Dec-05-11 05:51 AM   #77 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 07:26 AM   #40 
        - I see your post downthread as well  oberliner   Dec-04-11 09:13 AM   #42 
  - There is the preconceived desire to find the TSA wrong  treestar   Dec-04-11 01:12 PM   #54 
  - the story is not even remotely believable  pitohui   Dec-04-11 06:02 PM   #69 
  - Is this acceptable so long as it's done for our "safety"? n/t  The Northerner   Dec-04-11 02:49 AM   #24 
  - If you were innocent, you wouldn't even ask that question. TERRA! TERRA! TERRA!  No Elephants   Dec-04-11 03:26 AM   #27 
  - BS on so many things...  flpab   Dec-04-11 06:13 AM   #33 
  - Hey, not to thread hijack--for whom can I get a gate pass?  MADem   Dec-04-11 06:31 AM   #37 
     - How To Get a Gate Pass at the Airport  oberliner   Dec-04-11 09:12 AM   #41 
        - I will just have to try for the "slightly different rules" scenario, then.  MADem   Dec-04-11 11:34 AM   #45 
           - I don't think special accomodations are made for rubes  oberliner   Dec-04-11 12:42 PM   #48 
              - I'm of the "If you don't ask, you're sure not to get" school of thought.  MADem   Dec-04-11 01:11 PM   #53 
  - Alien  demicritic   Dec-04-11 07:05 AM   #39 
  - Must be a  femrap   Dec-04-11 12:58 PM   #49 
  - At what age should one be exempt?  treestar   Dec-04-11 01:08 PM   #51 
  - Enhanced patdowns are punitive. They are intended to be so unpleasant that  tblue37   Dec-04-11 01:48 PM   #60 
  - How does TSA know that there was not strip search?  LisaL   Dec-04-11 03:37 PM   #65 
  - that what she SAYS, all right  pitohui   Dec-04-11 05:44 PM   #66 
  - this is just stupid. But then I was groped by TSA when accompanied by my sis-in-law & two teenagers  wordpix   Dec-04-11 08:08 PM   #71 
  - so TSA should only grope people who look atypically american?  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-05-11 04:14 PM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 08:27 PM   #74 
  - Micro-infringements>  survivorista   Dec-06-11 01:54 AM   #84 
 

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