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Fri Dec-02-11 04:46 PM
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| 61. Figures it comes from someone in a Right to Work for LESS State! |
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Edited on Fri Dec-02-11 04:54 PM by RoccoR5955
OK, then when her hard drive crashes, and she needs an new one, if this thing gets passed, I hope that the person who fixes it doesn't have OT, and doesn't work the extra hours needed to get it fixed.
These people know nothing of how much it takes to do this kind of work. They don't know what a chore it is to clean up other people's computer messes... ESPECIALLY with Windoze! I guess the Mac is no better. Not to mention the questions users ask, that they could find out from a simple inquiring from within the help files, or for cryin' out loud, the whole damn Internet!!!! Sheesh, where do they think we learn this stuff, and get our patience to deal with their crap from?
Today, an IT worker is more like your plumber or electrician, because the devices have become as ubiquitous as a toilet, or a lightbulb. Why should we be paid as executives, when we are actually doing the grunt work of the 21st century?
Just to add, I am a civil servant, described as a "Microcomputer/Network Support Specialist." Don't let the title confuse you, if ANYTHING goes wrong with the network, servers, muckley mucks' computers, they call ME, because I know all the systems. Sometimes on weekends, or at night. I am also union, so I do have protections, and I doubt that NY will become a Right to Work For Less State any time soon.
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| -Bill would end overtime pay requirement for many more IT workers |
jayfish |
Dec-02-11 11:47 AM |
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Kay needs to be replaced... |
midnight |
Dec-02-11 11:50 AM |
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A lot of them do. Then, when they are out looking for jobs |
davidwparker |
Dec-02-11 12:24 PM |
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A bipartisan effort to keep all the winnings for themselves.. |
midnight |
Dec-02-11 02:41 PM |
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IT workers can shutdown the world if they wanted to. |
Blaq Dem |
Dec-03-11 01:27 PM |
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You sir are an optomist |
Big_Mike |
Dec-03-11 01:32 PM |
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I agree - Kay Hagan should not be called a Democrat |
slay |
Dec-02-11 02:57 PM |
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A good Democrat does not attack the right to overtime |
Gman |
Dec-02-11 04:05 PM |
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How many good democrats... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-02-11 05:29 PM |
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maybe |
frylock |
Dec-02-11 06:43 PM |
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Haven't seen one stance yet from this woman that resembled a Democrat. n/t |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Dec-02-11 06:53 PM |
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Hagen is the 1% |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-03-11 07:16 AM |
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Most IT jobs don't pay overtime... |
bcool |
Dec-02-11 11:51 AM |
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IT workers who are paid with an annual salary don't get overtime, but... |
Eric J in MN |
Dec-02-11 11:58 AM |
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Being eligible for overtime pay has little to do with how your employer pays you. |
jayfish |
Dec-02-11 12:45 PM |
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In this case, it actually does |
jeff47 |
Dec-02-11 05:08 PM |
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I have been paid overtime in ZERO salaried positions... |
DWilliamsamh |
Dec-02-11 08:40 PM |
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+10000 |
geardaddy |
Dec-02-11 03:28 PM |
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I think this law would affect me, I would lose overtime pay... |
limpyhobbler |
Dec-02-11 04:00 PM |
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My husband has worked in IT for over 30 years |
LiberalEsto |
Dec-02-11 04:11 PM |
#56 |
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Any employee that is FLSA exempt can request an audit from the DOL |
Major Nikon |
Dec-02-11 05:08 PM |
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interesting |
LiberalEsto |
Dec-02-11 05:12 PM |
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my husband is a programmer and has always been paid overtime |
pitohui |
Dec-02-11 06:06 PM |
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My husband is a database administrator |
LiberalEsto |
Dec-03-11 09:16 AM |
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started in 1991 |
Samba |
Dec-02-11 08:01 PM |
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"Despite the lack of specific education, professional certifications etc."? |
boppers |
Dec-02-11 10:49 PM |
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The way the system seems to work now... |
LiberalEsto |
Dec-03-11 09:10 AM |
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That is downright sickening. |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-11 09:36 AM |
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If they are SALARIED workers you are right |
DWilliamsamh |
Dec-02-11 08:35 PM |
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I just posted about this...many IT jobs... |
CoffeeCat |
Dec-02-11 10:56 PM |
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Broken link. |
uberblonde |
Dec-02-11 11:52 AM |
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Fixed. -NT- |
jayfish |
Dec-02-11 11:57 AM |
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Overtime pay, in IT? Since when? |
tridim |
Dec-02-11 11:55 AM |
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I used to get it, a long time ago. I believe the rules changed in about 1996. |
slackmaster |
Dec-02-11 12:17 PM |
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"Maybe this new BS will help get IT professionals to finally unionize." |
MilesColtrane |
Dec-02-11 03:04 PM |
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Unionizing geeks isn't going to happen |
jeff47 |
Dec-02-11 05:14 PM |
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I don't think it's Objectivism, so much as libertarian-ism. |
boppers |
Dec-02-11 10:53 PM |
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my husband gets overtime as a programmer |
pitohui |
Dec-02-11 06:08 PM |
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I am in IT |
AldebTX |
Dec-02-11 12:02 PM |
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Your employer choosing not to pay you for overtime does not make you an exempt employee. |
jayfish |
Dec-02-11 01:21 PM |
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Many are |
Major Nikon |
Dec-02-11 05:09 PM |
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well a lot of computer guys have poor negotiating/social skills |
pitohui |
Dec-02-11 06:12 PM |
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Are you salaried? |
Xithras |
Dec-02-11 03:55 PM |
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wall-mart got busted for that |
ThomThom |
Dec-02-11 05:33 PM |
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They have exempt and non-exempt salaried employees |
socialindependocrat |
Dec-03-11 08:06 AM |
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Hagan's a Democrat... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-02-11 12:13 PM |
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Excellent way to make workers into wage slaves and increase unemployment. |
toddwv |
Dec-02-11 12:14 PM |
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this Government is ANTI WORKER |
lovuian |
Dec-02-11 12:17 PM |
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We're a majoritarian system... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-02-11 12:23 PM |
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That is an enormous simplification of the current state of affairs. |
Muskypundit |
Dec-02-11 12:38 PM |
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This is a cop-out. |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-02-11 01:04 PM |
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Right -- public wants to get rid of the Post Office -- ???? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-02-11 05:39 PM |
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Exactly. For decades, since Reagan, the right has been fucking up the economy |
RaleighNCDUer |
Dec-02-11 03:56 PM |
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+1000% --- "left/liberal nation, in grips of a right/fascist oligarchy which owns the media" -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-02-11 05:41 PM |
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+ a brazillion! |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-11 09:41 AM |
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How much a person gets to talk to a politician depends on the size of the donation. |
Eric J in MN |
Dec-02-11 12:44 PM |
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If you put 40,000 persons in their district office, they'd listen. |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-02-11 01:01 PM |
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If you put 40k in their district office they'd pepper spray them then arrest. |
zogofzorkon |
Dec-02-11 01:26 PM |
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No city in America could do that, not even New York. |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-03-11 01:17 PM |
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Have you noticed at all that since Nixon's regime the object is to deceive and destroy elections . . |
defendandprotect |
Dec-02-11 05:44 PM |
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Al Gore |
sulphurdunn |
Dec-02-11 05:47 PM |
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300,000,000 million American... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-03-11 01:12 PM |
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I don't think so. |
sulphurdunn |
Dec-03-11 02:16 PM |
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I doubt that Senator Hagan ran on a platform of cutting overtime pay for IT workers |
limpyhobbler |
Dec-02-11 04:10 PM |
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I would make a very similar guess. |
Maineman |
Dec-02-11 04:39 PM |
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You think we have "free elections" --- ???? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Dec-02-11 05:36 PM |
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Absolutely right. |
Go2Peace |
Dec-02-11 08:03 PM |
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Theft, on any scale.... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Dec-03-11 01:15 PM |
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I don't believe that anymore. There is little "Representation" left |
Go2Peace |
Dec-02-11 08:02 PM |
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Wonderful response. " You pretend to pay us and we pretend to work" |
midnight |
Dec-02-11 02:38 PM |
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We need a huge slow down by workers -- all together -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-02-11 05:46 PM |
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There are four co-sponsors to the bill, three of them are Republicans |
apnu |
Dec-02-11 12:44 PM |
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Michael Bennet CO - D? |
paulk |
Dec-02-11 02:43 PM |
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That was a big WTF for me too. |
Autumn |
Dec-02-11 05:48 PM |
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there is nothing, absolutely nothing |
paulk |
Dec-02-11 07:57 PM |
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hmmm..... sad -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-02-11 09:04 PM |
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It seems congress has no problems cutting wages for hourly workers |
Angry Dragon |
Dec-02-11 12:50 PM |
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''.....and it was put forth by a Democrat.'' |
DeSwiss |
Dec-02-11 12:58 PM |
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She's from NC which has Charlotte - one of the biggest banking cities |
dballance |
Dec-02-11 01:19 PM |
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...and Research Triangle Park! n/t |
pkdu |
Dec-02-11 05:28 PM |
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IT workers have been everybody's favorite whipping boys/girls for the past 10 years. nt |
stevenleser |
Dec-02-11 02:03 PM |
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yeah we put you in the exec class so u can work MORE for LESS |
katty |
Dec-02-11 02:03 PM |
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Screwing IT AGAIN |
nahant |
Dec-02-11 02:06 PM |
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No doubt, she probably represents ... |
aggiesal |
Dec-02-11 02:06 PM |
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Kay Hagan is a Senator, and so she represents all of NC. (NT) |
Eric J in MN |
Dec-02-11 02:28 PM |
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Oooops, my bad, ... |
aggiesal |
Dec-03-11 11:34 AM |
#125 |
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India and China...here we come! |
SoapBox |
Dec-02-11 02:13 PM |
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Isn't it great to finally see bipartisan efforts from the Senate? |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-02-11 02:31 PM |
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What the heck? Why should anyone who is not salaried be exempt from OT pay? |
AllyCat |
Dec-02-11 02:41 PM |
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They need to strengthen, not weaken worker protections |
quakerboy |
Dec-02-11 02:48 PM |
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A bi-partisan effort to cut the income of IT workers but no bi-partisan effort to make it easier for |
Citizen Worker |
Dec-02-11 03:10 PM |
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A bi-partisan effort to cut the income of IT workers but no bi-partisan effort to make it easier for |
Citizen Worker |
Dec-02-11 03:10 PM |
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They are underpaid as it is |
socialindependocrat |
Dec-02-11 03:15 PM |
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WTF! n/t |
Hotler |
Dec-02-11 03:22 PM |
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I can't believe this. What is the ultimate goal, |
jimmydwight |
Dec-02-11 03:25 PM |
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Oh crap, look at what someone entered on her Wikipedia bio! |
wxgeek7 |
Dec-02-11 03:36 PM |
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that's hilarious n/t |
MrsBrady |
Dec-02-11 03:46 PM |
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It's after 5 pm ET and it is still there! |
BumRushDaShow |
Dec-02-11 04:04 PM |
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the truth should stay there!! what a crap dem |
lunasun |
Dec-02-11 08:47 PM |
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Ain't that the truth! |
RoccoR5955 |
Dec-02-11 04:50 PM |
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Ain't that the truth! |
RoccoR5955 |
Dec-02-11 04:50 PM |
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With "friends" like this, who needs enemies? n/t |
OhioChick |
Dec-02-11 04:02 PM |
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Don't fuck with the people who handle your food and database security |
inademv |
Dec-02-11 04:03 PM |
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I would expect Walmart would reclassify all their employees |
Gman |
Dec-02-11 04:03 PM |
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I haven't seen an hourly IT job in years. |
Recursion |
Dec-02-11 04:09 PM |
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Our government just keeps walking backwards. |
gtar100 |
Dec-02-11 04:09 PM |
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There are contracting shops (like Collabera) |
catrose |
Dec-02-11 04:37 PM |
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How long before they make almost every occupation exempt? |
Hugabear |
Dec-02-11 04:43 PM |
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Another giveaway to the rich........... |
Swede Atlanta |
Dec-02-11 04:45 PM |
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I wouldn't count on it |
47of74 |
Dec-02-11 06:28 PM |
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Did he ever really have a spine? nt. |
Fokker Trip |
Dec-03-11 06:13 AM |
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Figures it comes from someone in a Right to Work for LESS State! |
RoccoR5955 |
Dec-02-11 04:46 PM |
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Let's find out if she has accepted campaign contributions from Microsoft, for starters |
Missy Vixen |
Dec-02-11 04:49 PM |
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The assault on workers continues |
mokawanis |
Dec-02-11 04:50 PM |
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Everyone needs to wake up... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-02-11 05:32 PM |
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WTF????? |
goforit |
Dec-02-11 05:37 PM |
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That the great thing about Congress these days. |
Turbineguy |
Dec-02-11 05:57 PM |
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oh hell -- tell me again why there shouldn't be a move to clean OUT Congress? |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-02-11 06:03 PM |
#84 |
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Just called one of her staffers in DC. |
mwooldri |
Dec-02-11 06:05 PM |
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I'll help get her out! Damn! Republican Light!! |
Duval |
Dec-02-11 06:44 PM |
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Unacceptable. This is sorta like "pepper spraying" workers. |
DaveJ |
Dec-02-11 06:54 PM |
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I worked IT from 1974 to 2010, both salaried and hourly, and I never got overtime. |
MgtPA |
Dec-02-11 07:16 PM |
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You got taken. |
Go2Peace |
Dec-02-11 08:14 PM |
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workers of the 22'nd century, of all colors, replace the black slaves of the |
MarkCharles |
Dec-02-11 07:46 PM |
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A so called Democrat did this or is trying to end workers rights |
INdemo |
Dec-02-11 08:15 PM |
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She's from NC..... |
ingac70 |
Dec-03-11 09:36 AM |
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There are many variables |
klook |
Dec-02-11 10:18 PM |
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This may be why this is happening... |
CoffeeCat |
Dec-02-11 10:46 PM |
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I've been in IT since 1970, as a tech, instructor and analyst and |
Synicus Maximus |
Dec-02-11 11:01 PM |
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Note also more Indian and Chinese are being brought in---they will work long hours and get no |
McCamy Taylor |
Dec-03-11 07:40 AM |
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I'm in IT and Exempt so nothing changes for me. |
TNLib |
Dec-03-11 08:51 AM |
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K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-03-11 09:37 AM |
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I, for one, am outraged for the Indian people! |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Dec-03-11 09:55 AM |
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Funny story |
Hamlette |
Dec-03-11 11:09 AM |
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Where's the "funny?" |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Dec-03-11 04:25 PM |
#132 |
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Thank you Kay Hagan |
The Gunslinger |
Dec-05-11 11:18 AM |
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