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43. Have you even been to a Mental Hospital? They are some of the more secure places I have even visite.
When I had to visit a client in State Prison, it had less controls on entrances and exits then when I had to visit another client at the local neuro-psychiatric ward. It was easy to get into the Ward, but impossible to get out. The prison was hard to get in (you had to go through security and all that search to make sure no contraband is going into the Prison), in the ward, push open the door and walked in.

On the other hand, getting out of the prison was a snap, checked out and left, no search. To exit the Ward I had to not only check out BUT wait for them to electronically unlock the door.

There were no bars on either place, thick glass does a much better job of keeping people in. Furthermore, if you ever left the NP ward, you still had to make it out of the Hospital, which was down another seven floors. The prison, once you were out, you were out.

Sorry, most mental hospitals have BETTER security then most prisons, you do not see it for the Mental Hospitals want to look like a Hospital not a prison, but they have top notch security.

On the other hand Prisons LOOK like they have Security, even when they do not. Image is important to both Hospitals and Prisons and what most people see is the image not the reality of the underlying security.

One last comment, most people in Mental Hospitals do not have the mental ability (do to their mental health problem) to escape, you have to understand how security works to work around it and most people in Mental Hospitals do NOT have that capacity. If they do that is a sign they are SANE and thus subject to trial (If no trial has occurred) OR subject to placement is a more secure hospital (Which exists but no one reports about them for they are hell holes for people with the least controlled mental health problems end up in such places, they are so bad people in other mental hospitals behave themselves let they be sent to those super secure mental hospitals),
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  -Norway mass murder suspect insane, police say Eugene  Nov-29-11 06:48 AM   #0 
  - That seems accurate. He seems insane to me.  Quantess   Nov-29-11 06:57 AM   #1 
  - If he's insane he would be a danger to others in prison,  Yo_Mama   Nov-29-11 09:17 AM   #10 
  - Quantess  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 09:24 AM   #11 
  - Thanks for explaining.  Quantess   Nov-29-11 09:49 AM   #12 
  - Quantess  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 10:29 AM   #18 
     - No, I know he was exaggerating just to be funny.  Quantess   Nov-29-11 11:09 AM   #23 
     - Quantess  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 12:32 PM   #35 
        - There are many, many bad prisons here in the U.S.,  amandabeech   Nov-30-11 03:35 PM   #51 
           - amandabeech  Diclotican   Nov-30-11 10:06 PM   #53 
     - Solitary confinement is torture  duhneece   Nov-29-11 12:06 PM   #27 
  - Restorative justice vs punative justice  duhneece   Nov-29-11 12:03 PM   #26 
  - Also, Norway doesn't have life imprisonment in prisons  alp227   Nov-29-11 12:36 PM   #36 
  - Does a anyone ever become psychoticly deranged and kill people in the name of liberal ideology?  Gman   Nov-29-11 07:00 AM   #2 
  - I think that the 'anarchist' assassins of the late 19th century  HereSince1628   Nov-29-11 07:10 AM   #3 
  - Wouldn't it be hard to say they were psychotic?  Gman   Nov-29-11 07:15 AM   #4 
  - IIRC they were pitched to the public by the media as being insane n/t  HereSince1628   Nov-29-11 07:18 AM   #5 
  - Although, many of them were framed. See: Sacco and Venzetti  Taverner   Nov-29-11 08:30 AM   #7 
  - yes, but it's not really liberal or conservative ideology as a sane person would see it  Yo_Mama   Nov-29-11 09:15 AM   #8 
  - The SLA comes to mind...  BadtotheboneBob   Nov-29-11 10:20 AM   #15 
  - Charles Manson was kind of liberal, but mostly just psychotic.  Quantess   Nov-29-11 10:22 AM   #17 
  - Liberal? In what way?  Starry Messenger   Nov-30-11 06:02 AM   #46 
  - I don't recognize any ideology that embraces genocide as a form of conservatism  slackmaster   Nov-29-11 12:12 PM   #29 
  - As long as he's put away, I'm all for it  lbrtbell   Nov-29-11 08:10 AM   #6 
  - Eugene  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 09:17 AM   #9 
  - We can see who you are and who you are responding to  AtheistCrusader   Nov-29-11 10:00 AM   #13 
     - AtheistCrusader  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 10:22 AM   #16 
     - DU is visited by people from all over the world.  AtheistCrusader   Nov-29-11 10:41 AM   #19 
     - Ive seen Americans do it before :)  Lars77   Nov-29-11 10:56 AM   #20 
     - AtheistCrusader  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 12:25 PM   #33 
        - We each have our own style  Tansy_Gold   Nov-29-11 12:41 PM   #37 
     - It's always nice to see your posts, Diclotican.  EFerrari   Nov-29-11 12:20 PM   #30 
        - EFerrari  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 12:22 PM   #31 
     - Different posters have different quirks  Nihil   Nov-30-11 04:50 AM   #45 
  - no ****  iandhr   Nov-29-11 10:15 AM   #14 
  - The wrongness of this is that a mental hospital is not secure enough  ooglymoogly   Nov-29-11 10:59 AM   #21 
  - ooglymoogly  Diclotican   Nov-29-11 12:11 PM   #28 
  - Have you even been to a Mental Hospital? They are some of the more secure places I have even visite.  happyslug   Nov-30-11 01:49 AM   #43 
  - And yet...people do escape, a few never caught.  ooglymoogly   Nov-30-11 02:31 PM   #50 
  - well, guess what we do with insane people who do crimes here in the US?  wordpix   Nov-30-11 10:16 PM   #54 
  - He has been diagnosed with Paranoid Schizofrenia  Lars77   Nov-29-11 11:01 AM   #22 
  - Fundamentalist RW thinking surely must be insane.  stillwaiting   Nov-29-11 11:10 AM   #24 
  - You're describing severe paranoia. nt  EFerrari   Nov-29-11 12:23 PM   #32 
  - not to muddy the waters any more, but ...  jobendorfer   Nov-29-11 12:00 PM   #25 
  - The largest provider of mental health services in the country  EFerrari   Nov-29-11 12:26 PM   #34 
     - Actually, the largest provider of mental health services in the country is Medicaid  slackmaster   Nov-29-11 01:06 PM   #38 
  - BBC: Norwegian disbelief at Breivik 'insanity'  Eugene   Nov-29-11 04:38 PM   #39 
  - It is surprising.  limpyhobbler   Nov-29-11 05:09 PM   #41 
     - Norway is a "Civil Law" system of justice  happyslug   Nov-30-11 02:46 AM   #44 
        - ok that does make sense  limpyhobbler   Nov-30-11 07:48 AM   #49 
  - I'm against the death penalty but I would make an exception for Mr Brevik. n/t  limpyhobbler   Nov-29-11 05:03 PM   #40 
  - Then you are not against the death penalty...  BadtotheboneBob   Nov-29-11 10:23 PM   #42 
     - I've never been for it before, I guess I changed my mind now , nt  limpyhobbler   Nov-30-11 07:29 AM   #48 
  - This video regarding Norway's prisons was originally titled something like  stellanoir   Nov-30-11 07:02 AM   #47 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-30-11 03:40 PM   #52 
  - " critical of Muslim immigration and European liberalism"  wordpix   Nov-30-11 10:20 PM   #55 
  - if he killed my loved ones i would want him dead .  roman7   Dec-01-11 02:42 PM   #56 
  - This troubles me in so many ways  War Horse   Dec-01-11 04:45 PM   #57 
 

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