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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:31 PM
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56. As a member of the horse community I can tell you...
Slaughter is alive and well...just a little farther away. "Kill-buyers" are still collecting free and cheap horses at local sales and shipping them for slaughter in Mexico and Canada. We are shipping more horses to slaughter now than when the US plants were open, so there is absolutely no correlation between the US plant closings and an apparent increase in horse starvation cases. I think a lot of it is that the people who can't or won't spend the money on horse feed certainly can't or won't spend it on the required coggins test for Equine Infectious Anemia and veterinary farm call charge they have to have in order to ship their horse. So the horse starves.

There is no reason to allow a horse or any animal for that matter to starve to death. If you run out of horse feed today, you can post a free classified ad tomorrow and place the horse with someone who will cover the coggins fee, take the horse and feed it. It may end up being a "dealer", but he will feed the horse until he sells it. Local horse rescues can help locate places for hard to sell or hard to place horses or you can get help with euthanasia expenses for horses that are not able to be placed from organizations like this...
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  -U.S. ban on horse slaughter lifted Freddie Stubbs  Nov-28-11 12:58 PM   #0 
  - the cow lobby wins big lol. nt  msongs   Nov-28-11 01:02 PM   #1 
  - eat mor horsz. (n/t)  Iggo   Nov-28-11 03:38 PM   #29 
  - cows with guns!  lonestarnot   Nov-28-11 08:08 PM   #45 
  - Hooray for creating jobs in the horse meat industry! n/t  Ian David   Nov-28-11 01:03 PM   #2 
  - The Europeans will be thrilled. nt  MADem   Nov-28-11 01:04 PM   #3 
  - Can't speak for Europe in general  dipsydoodle   Nov-28-11 05:42 PM   #41 
     - I'm afraid I can. I lived right down the road from the horsemeat butcher,  MADem   Nov-28-11 06:10 PM   #43 
  - IT comes down to "Would you rather see a horse slaughtered or starve to death?" nt  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:12 PM   #4 
  - well, for people with limited thinking (i.e. greedy and/or stupid) that is what it  Scout   Nov-28-11 01:16 PM   #6 
  - How does realizing that horses suffer in economic times like these "limited thinking" Please  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:22 PM   #8 
     - And when they can't afford to heat their homes, they can begin to burn down all the trees?  defendandprotect   Nov-28-11 01:31 PM   #12 
     - stop overbreeding  Scout   Nov-28-11 02:45 PM   #21 
        - I have never abandoned nor have I slaughtered any horse. I have do not breed either. My answer to  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 02:58 PM   #24 
        - sounds like the assholes who tell poor people they shouldn't have children  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:05 PM   #32 
           - unless you have a sudden, all-encompassing tragedy of some sort  Scout   Nov-29-11 12:54 AM   #48 
              - still being judgemental there  Kali   Nov-29-11 10:55 AM   #50 
  - Wrong question - especially given inhumane history of horse slaughter in US  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 01:25 PM   #9 
  - Your answer is?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:28 PM   #10 
  - I've often found that when presented with only two options  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 02:42 PM   #20 
  - What a clever response. Given the following facts. 1) Horses are being abandoned to starve.  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 02:51 PM   #22 
     - That I know merely three places of Pi is not indicative that there are only three places.  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 03:01 PM   #26 
        - Do you have a point?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 03:04 PM   #27 
  - The answer begins with the breeding - as it does with cats and dogs  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 05:44 PM   #42 
     - I do not believe that stating that it seems to be a choice between Slaughter and starvation is the  Vincardog   Nov-29-11 11:02 AM   #51 
  - it was banned becasue do-gooders didn't think about the unintended consequences  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:07 PM   #33 
  - i think i can speak for the horse when i say let them take a chance on starving  leftyohiolib   Nov-28-11 01:46 PM   #15 
  - So Mr Ed is a friend of yours?  beardown   Nov-28-11 02:01 PM   #16 
  - Problem is, the availability of horse slaughter doesn't stop people from starving horses...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 08:38 PM   #53 
  - It's not just for breakfast anymore  jberryhill   Nov-28-11 01:14 PM   #5 
  - If we are going to eat animals  bowens43   Nov-28-11 01:20 PM   #7 
  - it is when performed in inhumane fashon - as was case in US  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 01:29 PM   #11 
  - yes, but shipping them to Mexico to be slaughtered  Tumbulu   Nov-28-11 01:38 PM   #13 
  - I agree  mimitabby   Nov-28-11 02:03 PM   #17 
  - As a member of the horse community I can tell you...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 09:31 PM   #56 
  - Ding Ding  neoconn   Nov-28-11 02:13 PM   #18 
  - Agreed  beardown   Nov-28-11 04:53 PM   #37 
  - The plants currently operating in Mexico are owned by the same...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 09:12 PM   #55 
  - More inhumane  quakerboy   Nov-28-11 01:42 PM   #14 
     - humane animal slaughter is something that I care deeply about  Tumbulu   Nov-28-11 02:31 PM   #19 
  - Social mores are contrary to your position...  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 02:57 PM   #23 
  - I've mentioned it before, but when I had to get rid of my horses...  Xithras   Nov-28-11 02:58 PM   #25 
  - Starve at pasture! What a fucking idea. So god damned disgusting. There is always another option!  lonestarnot   Nov-28-11 08:10 PM   #46 
  - so sad...  C. lupus familiaris   Nov-28-11 03:33 PM   #28 
  - "Horse Slaughter."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-28-11 03:42 PM   #30 
  - Horses, good.  malthaussen   Nov-28-11 03:46 PM   #31 
  - MILLIONS of dogs and cats are "destroyed" each year. Your point is?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 04:12 PM   #34 
  - this is an option like terminating a pregnancy that needs to be available  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:16 PM   #35 
  - "horses are livestock"  Scout   Nov-29-11 12:52 AM   #47 
     - ?  Kali   Nov-29-11 11:04 AM   #52 
  - Getting rid of slaughter was a mistake, and I hope this is a step in the right direction.  Brickbat   Nov-28-11 04:43 PM   #36 
  - If they're made of meat,  Rincewind   Nov-28-11 05:02 PM   #38 
  - The thing that concerns me is the presence of toxic pharmaceuticals...  HereSince1628   Nov-28-11 05:12 PM   #39 
  - Theoretically, any horse sold at auction or to a slaughterhouse must be verified drug free  riderinthestorm   Nov-28-11 05:25 PM   #40 
  - And Obama signed the bill into law  harvey007   Nov-28-11 08:00 PM   #44 
  - Horse meat is good and very lean. Have to watch out for toxoplasmosis, though.  Little Tich   Nov-29-11 01:25 AM   #49 
     - Toxoplasmosis is the least of your worries when eating horse meat...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 08:53 PM   #54 

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