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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:12 PM
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55. The plants currently operating in Mexico are owned by the same...
companies that owned the US plants and operate in the same manner. http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/mar09/090301h.asp . There were all kinds of scary "Mexican slaughter videos" being posted after the US plants closed by the pro-slaughter folks to get people to want US plants again, but those are not the norm. The Mexican plants are just the same run of the mill horse slaughter plants that pro-slaughter people called "humane" when they were located here.

http://www.vetsforequinewelfare.org/white_paper.php

"1. Horse Slaughter is not humane euthanasia

It is the united opinion of VEW that horse slaughter is inhumane, and that it is an unacceptable way to end a horse's life under any circumstance. One need only observe horse slaughter to see that it is a far cry from genuine humane euthanasia. From the transport of horses on inappropriate conveyances for long periods of time without food, water or rest to the very ugly slaughter process in which horses react with pain and fear, no evidence exists to support the claim that horse slaughter is a form of humane euthanasia. Rather, it is a brutal process that results in very tangible and easily observable equine suffering.

It is worth noting that the suffering of horses in slaughter is accentuated by the very fact that they are not raised for slaughter. Horses going to slaughter have largely been accustomed to close human contact whether through racing, ranch work, pleasure riding, rodeo or any of the other ways in which horses are used in this country. While some are purposely sold into slaughter by their owners most end up at the abattoir through pure bad luck: they were sold at auction and the winning bidder was a killer-buyer working for one of the slaughter plants. To suddenly be treated as pure livestock must be disorienting and frightful, and can only compound their suffering as they proceed to slaughter.

We believe that it is an unethical and dangerous practice for the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) and American Association of Equine Practitioners (AAEP) to attempt to equate horse slaughter with humane euthanasia."




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  -U.S. ban on horse slaughter lifted Freddie Stubbs  Nov-28-11 12:58 PM   #0 
  - the cow lobby wins big lol. nt  msongs   Nov-28-11 01:02 PM   #1 
  - eat mor horsz. (n/t)  Iggo   Nov-28-11 03:38 PM   #29 
  - cows with guns!  lonestarnot   Nov-28-11 08:08 PM   #45 
  - Hooray for creating jobs in the horse meat industry! n/t  Ian David   Nov-28-11 01:03 PM   #2 
  - The Europeans will be thrilled. nt  MADem   Nov-28-11 01:04 PM   #3 
  - Can't speak for Europe in general  dipsydoodle   Nov-28-11 05:42 PM   #41 
     - I'm afraid I can. I lived right down the road from the horsemeat butcher,  MADem   Nov-28-11 06:10 PM   #43 
  - IT comes down to "Would you rather see a horse slaughtered or starve to death?" nt  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:12 PM   #4 
  - well, for people with limited thinking (i.e. greedy and/or stupid) that is what it  Scout   Nov-28-11 01:16 PM   #6 
  - How does realizing that horses suffer in economic times like these "limited thinking" Please  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:22 PM   #8 
     - And when they can't afford to heat their homes, they can begin to burn down all the trees?  defendandprotect   Nov-28-11 01:31 PM   #12 
     - stop overbreeding  Scout   Nov-28-11 02:45 PM   #21 
        - I have never abandoned nor have I slaughtered any horse. I have do not breed either. My answer to  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 02:58 PM   #24 
        - sounds like the assholes who tell poor people they shouldn't have children  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:05 PM   #32 
           - unless you have a sudden, all-encompassing tragedy of some sort  Scout   Nov-29-11 12:54 AM   #48 
              - still being judgemental there  Kali   Nov-29-11 10:55 AM   #50 
  - Wrong question - especially given inhumane history of horse slaughter in US  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 01:25 PM   #9 
  - Your answer is?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:28 PM   #10 
  - I've often found that when presented with only two options  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 02:42 PM   #20 
  - What a clever response. Given the following facts. 1) Horses are being abandoned to starve.  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 02:51 PM   #22 
     - That I know merely three places of Pi is not indicative that there are only three places.  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 03:01 PM   #26 
        - Do you have a point?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 03:04 PM   #27 
  - The answer begins with the breeding - as it does with cats and dogs  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 05:44 PM   #42 
     - I do not believe that stating that it seems to be a choice between Slaughter and starvation is the  Vincardog   Nov-29-11 11:02 AM   #51 
  - it was banned becasue do-gooders didn't think about the unintended consequences  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:07 PM   #33 
  - i think i can speak for the horse when i say let them take a chance on starving  leftyohiolib   Nov-28-11 01:46 PM   #15 
  - So Mr Ed is a friend of yours?  beardown   Nov-28-11 02:01 PM   #16 
  - Problem is, the availability of horse slaughter doesn't stop people from starving horses...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 08:38 PM   #53 
  - It's not just for breakfast anymore  jberryhill   Nov-28-11 01:14 PM   #5 
  - If we are going to eat animals  bowens43   Nov-28-11 01:20 PM   #7 
  - it is when performed in inhumane fashon - as was case in US  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 01:29 PM   #11 
  - yes, but shipping them to Mexico to be slaughtered  Tumbulu   Nov-28-11 01:38 PM   #13 
  - I agree  mimitabby   Nov-28-11 02:03 PM   #17 
  - As a member of the horse community I can tell you...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 09:31 PM   #56 
  - Ding Ding  neoconn   Nov-28-11 02:13 PM   #18 
  - Agreed  beardown   Nov-28-11 04:53 PM   #37 
  - The plants currently operating in Mexico are owned by the same...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 09:12 PM   #55 
  - More inhumane  quakerboy   Nov-28-11 01:42 PM   #14 
     - humane animal slaughter is something that I care deeply about  Tumbulu   Nov-28-11 02:31 PM   #19 
  - Social mores are contrary to your position...  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 02:57 PM   #23 
  - I've mentioned it before, but when I had to get rid of my horses...  Xithras   Nov-28-11 02:58 PM   #25 
  - Starve at pasture! What a fucking idea. So god damned disgusting. There is always another option!  lonestarnot   Nov-28-11 08:10 PM   #46 
  - so sad...  C. lupus familiaris   Nov-28-11 03:33 PM   #28 
  - "Horse Slaughter."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-28-11 03:42 PM   #30 
  - Horses, good.  malthaussen   Nov-28-11 03:46 PM   #31 
  - MILLIONS of dogs and cats are "destroyed" each year. Your point is?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 04:12 PM   #34 
  - this is an option like terminating a pregnancy that needs to be available  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:16 PM   #35 
  - "horses are livestock"  Scout   Nov-29-11 12:52 AM   #47 
     - ?  Kali   Nov-29-11 11:04 AM   #52 
  - Getting rid of slaughter was a mistake, and I hope this is a step in the right direction.  Brickbat   Nov-28-11 04:43 PM   #36 
  - If they're made of meat,  Rincewind   Nov-28-11 05:02 PM   #38 
  - The thing that concerns me is the presence of toxic pharmaceuticals...  HereSince1628   Nov-28-11 05:12 PM   #39 
  - Theoretically, any horse sold at auction or to a slaughterhouse must be verified drug free  riderinthestorm   Nov-28-11 05:25 PM   #40 
  - And Obama signed the bill into law  harvey007   Nov-28-11 08:00 PM   #44 
  - Horse meat is good and very lean. Have to watch out for toxoplasmosis, though.  Little Tich   Nov-29-11 01:25 AM   #49 
     - Toxoplasmosis is the least of your worries when eating horse meat...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 08:53 PM   #54 
 

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