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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 08:38 PM
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53. Problem is, the availability of horse slaughter doesn't stop people from starving horses...
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 08:48 PM by KathieG
We are shipping more horses to slaughter now than when the US plants were booming. Low-dollar horses often end up with kill-buyers that ship to either Mexico or Canada. There is a big "kill sale" in New Holland PA, and there is another in NJ held weekly, pictured here are the horses, ponies and donkeys saved from the kill pen last week a horse rescue takes pictures of all the horses sold to #10 (the kill buyer) and they offer them for sale for just over the meat price (unless the KB decides he has a "good one" then he will jack up the price if he thinks he can get it), they post the new horses every Wednesday night and the horses are usually available until Sat. morning, if not sold...they usually ship. This is a special agreement they have going with this particular kill buyer because he prefers to sell them out of the pen rather than pay for fuel and the hassle of shipping them north to the plant.

There are many with financial interests in opening US plants again, it's not that it's "needed". As far as an owner being able to "dispose" of a horse via the slaughter still happens every day in this country. There were just as many people starving their herds when slaughter was booming in this country as there are now that the plants are closed. For a horse to ship to a sale or plant, they have to have a negative coggins test for Equine Infectious Anemia, it costs about $35 a head plus a farm call charge from the veterinarian. People that won't or can't shell out money for feed are not going to pay for blood tests and veterinary charges whether slaughter is readily available or not. If a horse owner falls on hard times they aren't able to sell or place the horse with a rescue, they can still find the horse a place to go via the classifieds. Put a free horse on Craigslist and see how fast they go. Dealers pick these horses up all the time, sadly many end up going through the local sales and then on to slaughter like the horses at the link above, but there is certainly no excuse to let a horse starve.
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  -U.S. ban on horse slaughter lifted Freddie Stubbs  Nov-28-11 12:58 PM   #0 
  - the cow lobby wins big lol. nt  msongs   Nov-28-11 01:02 PM   #1 
  - eat mor horsz. (n/t)  Iggo   Nov-28-11 03:38 PM   #29 
  - cows with guns!  lonestarnot   Nov-28-11 08:08 PM   #45 
  - Hooray for creating jobs in the horse meat industry! n/t  Ian David   Nov-28-11 01:03 PM   #2 
  - The Europeans will be thrilled. nt  MADem   Nov-28-11 01:04 PM   #3 
  - Can't speak for Europe in general  dipsydoodle   Nov-28-11 05:42 PM   #41 
     - I'm afraid I can. I lived right down the road from the horsemeat butcher,  MADem   Nov-28-11 06:10 PM   #43 
  - IT comes down to "Would you rather see a horse slaughtered or starve to death?" nt  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:12 PM   #4 
  - well, for people with limited thinking (i.e. greedy and/or stupid) that is what it  Scout   Nov-28-11 01:16 PM   #6 
  - How does realizing that horses suffer in economic times like these "limited thinking" Please  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:22 PM   #8 
     - And when they can't afford to heat their homes, they can begin to burn down all the trees?  defendandprotect   Nov-28-11 01:31 PM   #12 
     - stop overbreeding  Scout   Nov-28-11 02:45 PM   #21 
        - I have never abandoned nor have I slaughtered any horse. I have do not breed either. My answer to  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 02:58 PM   #24 
        - sounds like the assholes who tell poor people they shouldn't have children  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:05 PM   #32 
           - unless you have a sudden, all-encompassing tragedy of some sort  Scout   Nov-29-11 12:54 AM   #48 
              - still being judgemental there  Kali   Nov-29-11 10:55 AM   #50 
  - Wrong question - especially given inhumane history of horse slaughter in US  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 01:25 PM   #9 
  - Your answer is?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 01:28 PM   #10 
  - I've often found that when presented with only two options  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 02:42 PM   #20 
  - What a clever response. Given the following facts. 1) Horses are being abandoned to starve.  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 02:51 PM   #22 
     - That I know merely three places of Pi is not indicative that there are only three places.  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 03:01 PM   #26 
        - Do you have a point?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 03:04 PM   #27 
  - The answer begins with the breeding - as it does with cats and dogs  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 05:44 PM   #42 
     - I do not believe that stating that it seems to be a choice between Slaughter and starvation is the  Vincardog   Nov-29-11 11:02 AM   #51 
  - it was banned becasue do-gooders didn't think about the unintended consequences  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:07 PM   #33 
  - i think i can speak for the horse when i say let them take a chance on starving  leftyohiolib   Nov-28-11 01:46 PM   #15 
  - So Mr Ed is a friend of yours?  beardown   Nov-28-11 02:01 PM   #16 
  - Problem is, the availability of horse slaughter doesn't stop people from starving horses...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 08:38 PM   #53 
  - It's not just for breakfast anymore  jberryhill   Nov-28-11 01:14 PM   #5 
  - If we are going to eat animals  bowens43   Nov-28-11 01:20 PM   #7 
  - it is when performed in inhumane fashon - as was case in US  bread_and_roses   Nov-28-11 01:29 PM   #11 
  - yes, but shipping them to Mexico to be slaughtered  Tumbulu   Nov-28-11 01:38 PM   #13 
  - I agree  mimitabby   Nov-28-11 02:03 PM   #17 
  - As a member of the horse community I can tell you...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 09:31 PM   #56 
  - Ding Ding  neoconn   Nov-28-11 02:13 PM   #18 
  - Agreed  beardown   Nov-28-11 04:53 PM   #37 
  - The plants currently operating in Mexico are owned by the same...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 09:12 PM   #55 
  - More inhumane  quakerboy   Nov-28-11 01:42 PM   #14 
     - humane animal slaughter is something that I care deeply about  Tumbulu   Nov-28-11 02:31 PM   #19 
  - Social mores are contrary to your position...  LanternWaste   Nov-28-11 02:57 PM   #23 
  - I've mentioned it before, but when I had to get rid of my horses...  Xithras   Nov-28-11 02:58 PM   #25 
  - Starve at pasture! What a fucking idea. So god damned disgusting. There is always another option!  lonestarnot   Nov-28-11 08:10 PM   #46 
  - so sad...  C. lupus familiaris   Nov-28-11 03:33 PM   #28 
  - "Horse Slaughter."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-28-11 03:42 PM   #30 
  - Horses, good.  malthaussen   Nov-28-11 03:46 PM   #31 
  - MILLIONS of dogs and cats are "destroyed" each year. Your point is?  Vincardog   Nov-28-11 04:12 PM   #34 
  - this is an option like terminating a pregnancy that needs to be available  Kali   Nov-28-11 04:16 PM   #35 
  - "horses are livestock"  Scout   Nov-29-11 12:52 AM   #47 
     - ?  Kali   Nov-29-11 11:04 AM   #52 
  - Getting rid of slaughter was a mistake, and I hope this is a step in the right direction.  Brickbat   Nov-28-11 04:43 PM   #36 
  - If they're made of meat,  Rincewind   Nov-28-11 05:02 PM   #38 
  - The thing that concerns me is the presence of toxic pharmaceuticals...  HereSince1628   Nov-28-11 05:12 PM   #39 
  - Theoretically, any horse sold at auction or to a slaughterhouse must be verified drug free  riderinthestorm   Nov-28-11 05:25 PM   #40 
  - And Obama signed the bill into law  harvey007   Nov-28-11 08:00 PM   #44 
  - Horse meat is good and very lean. Have to watch out for toxoplasmosis, though.  Little Tich   Nov-29-11 01:25 AM   #49 
     - Toxoplasmosis is the least of your worries when eating horse meat...  KathieG   Nov-29-11 08:53 PM   #54 

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