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117. They sure did.
They sure did. You can see when the nurse comes up to help, she's gesturing that they need to open his airway. Bless her for being willing to help in that situation. There's going to be a lawsuit.
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  -Police body slam leaves grandpa bloody, unconscious at Wal-Mart Judi Lynn  Nov-25-11 03:05 PM   #0 
  - they should make a video game about shopping at Wal Mart  Enrique   Nov-25-11 03:07 PM   #1 
  - It would be rated unsuitable for children n/t  arcane1   Nov-25-11 03:10 PM   #4 
  - That would be easy  christx30   Nov-25-11 03:35 PM   #12 
  - They have a website..............  Historic NY   Nov-25-11 04:41 PM   #24 
  - That will be part of the next Batman or Military Sim game  Tyrs WolfDaemon   Nov-25-11 07:33 PM   #64 
  - You might be a genius.  zonkers   Nov-25-11 08:32 PM   #71 
  - Call of Capitalism: Modern Shopping n/t  Sabriel   Nov-27-11 10:37 AM   #157 
  - National Lampoon's "Shopping at Wally World"...  JHB   Nov-28-11 09:20 AM   #159 
  - Police work attracts some of the most stupid people.  tabasco   Nov-25-11 03:08 PM   #2 
  - Beyond stupid, you have to a sociopath or pschopath cop to respond with  avaistheone1   Nov-25-11 05:49 PM   #37 
     - I was just talking to my cousin in England  pennylane100   Nov-25-11 06:42 PM   #53 
     - According to a friend of mine, we do the same thing here  HillWilliam   Nov-25-11 07:27 PM   #63 
     - Does he have source to that study? I would be interested.  LiberalFighter   Nov-26-11 08:48 PM   #150 
        - Well I can ask him next time I talk to him.  pennylane100   Nov-26-11 11:28 PM   #152 
     - It wasn't even a theft. He put it in his waistband to save his grandson from being trampled  Lorien   Nov-26-11 12:53 AM   #100 
        - You are exactly right  itsrobert   Nov-26-11 12:33 PM   #140 
        - Why were the police even in the store?  LiberalFighter   Nov-26-11 08:52 PM   #151 
        - yeah right. i think if he was out to rescue grandson he would have dropped the game  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:27 PM   #163 
  - gotta protect those profits, not the safety of customers. nt  msongs   Nov-25-11 03:08 PM   #3 
  - The dollar bill rules, people, just in the way of the sleazy corporate machine. Give us  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 03:11 PM   #5 
  - Surely life is cheap. Toilet paper is expensive.  avaistheone1   Nov-25-11 05:51 PM   #38 
     - Yep, it's getting to be a luxury item! n/t  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 05:54 PM   #40 
  - AP: Ariz. grandfather roughed up by police in Walmart  Judi Lynn   Nov-25-11 03:17 PM   #6 
  - If he went unconscious and his head was banged then he has a brain injury.  avaistheone1   Nov-25-11 06:07 PM   #43 
     - I lost my father when he fainted related to too much heart medication and hit his head on the  cyberpj   Nov-25-11 09:09 PM   #75 
        - I am sorry for your loss of your father  left on green only   Nov-26-11 12:03 AM   #94 
        - Thanks.  cyberpj   Nov-26-11 10:04 AM   #125 
        - sorry to hear about your pops  mdmc   Nov-26-11 09:02 AM   #121 
           - Thank you. nt  cyberpj   Nov-26-11 10:05 AM   #126 
  - What are they putting  Turbineguy   Nov-25-11 03:21 PM   #7 
  - Bush's culture of hate  Marthe48   Nov-25-11 03:24 PM   #8 
     - Yep, exactly!!! n/t  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 03:25 PM   #9 
     - ownership society  Enrique   Nov-25-11 04:01 PM   #18 
     - sorry to say it goes back a lot further than Bush  G_j   Nov-25-11 06:35 PM   #51 
        - Yes they did--I felt hopeful we were all going forward--  Marthe48   Nov-26-11 07:24 PM   #149 
  - No wonder citizens want to be armed if this crap gets even worse. n/t  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 03:27 PM   #10 
  - 500 years from now anthropologists  LARED   Nov-25-11 03:27 PM   #11 
  - I'm an anthropologist and  L. Coyote   Nov-25-11 03:59 PM   #17 
  - I also an an anthropologist -PhD Uwm 1980. Where are you based?  mysuzuki2   Nov-25-11 06:00 PM   #41 
  - My thinking exactly!  rucognizant   Nov-25-11 08:12 PM   #68 
  - Black Friday needs to be online-only  lbrtbell   Nov-25-11 09:36 PM   #78 
  - I hope the grandfather has an excellent lawyer  Missy Vixen   Nov-25-11 03:38 PM   #13 
  - Handcuffing an unconscious man and moving his head and neck!  spedtr90   Nov-25-11 03:51 PM   #14 
  - and leaving him face down in a pool of his own blood  TorchTheWitch   Nov-25-11 08:07 PM   #67 
  - I don't normally call the cops "pigs" but in this case they truly are.  avaistheone1   Nov-26-11 01:23 AM   #108 
  - Is the "Arapiao trainee" going to be put on administrative leave?  Dont call me Shirley   Nov-25-11 03:51 PM   #15 
  - BOYCOTT WAL*MART  L. Coyote   Nov-25-11 03:58 PM   #16 
  - If you are not already Boycotting Walmart  FreakinDJ   Nov-25-11 04:19 PM   #19 
  - +1  quakerboy   Nov-25-11 07:21 PM   #61 
  - You mean Mal-Wart don't you?  savannah43   Nov-25-11 08:54 PM   #74 
  - Yup.  UnrepentantLiberal   Nov-26-11 11:55 PM   #153 
  - I don't like Wallmart any better then you do ...  rtassi   Nov-25-11 04:25 PM   #21 
  - Walmart encourages the frenzy by its policies. And they do so for one motive: profit.  kestrel91316   Nov-25-11 04:38 PM   #23 
  - Can Walmart do ANYTHING right?  joeglow3   Nov-25-11 08:31 PM   #70 
     - CNBC discussed the Black Friday deals...  CoffeeCat   Nov-25-11 11:48 PM   #91 
     - Our city has 10 Walmarts and 3 Best Buys  joeglow3   Nov-26-11 06:33 PM   #144 
     - they have great deals  suninvited   Nov-26-11 12:16 AM   #95 
     - As mentioned above, you are confusing WalMart with Best Buy  joeglow3   Nov-26-11 06:34 PM   #145 
     - It's really easy to handle these sort of items and crowds if you want to do it.  LeftyMom   Nov-26-11 02:26 AM   #112 
        - That is EXACTLY how they did it at every Walmart in our town  joeglow3   Nov-26-11 06:37 PM   #146 
  - Code Alert, Code Alert. This poster is speaking in code. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-25-11 04:42 PM   #25 
  - But the customer did nothing wrong. You can stick a  lob1   Nov-25-11 05:16 PM   #36 
  - That's absolutely incorrect, in my state at least.  caseymoz   Nov-25-11 06:02 PM   #42 
  - In his waistband isn't concealment.  Demit   Nov-25-11 07:25 PM   #62 
     - I was picturing him in a winter coat.  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 08:16 AM   #118 
        - Why are you assuming anything at all?  Demit   Nov-26-11 11:31 AM   #131 
        - Assuming? Look at you. I never mentioned his waistband to begin with.  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 12:05 PM   #136 
        - It is that time of year  atreides1   Nov-26-11 06:46 PM   #147 
  - In many states you're wrong  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:16 PM   #45 
  - It's not "hiding" if it's visible  Lorien   Nov-26-11 12:48 AM   #98 
  - Jeeze. I better check Illinois statutes. I'm constantly placing ....  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-26-11 12:52 AM   #99 
     - If you notice, though, most stores have a sign that says  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 08:23 AM   #119 
        - I see a lot of contractors doing it. I'm pretty sure HD's policy is pretty hands-off till you leave....  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-26-11 10:27 AM   #128 
           - I'm pretty sure contractors commonly pocket things.  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 11:05 AM   #130 
  - Exactly. Is that so hard to understand?  Lorien   Nov-26-11 12:45 AM   #97 
  - I do that too.  xxqqqzme   Nov-26-11 12:26 PM   #138 
  - You may be right about the waistband thing ... and you will  rtassi   Nov-26-11 11:56 AM   #134 
  - you are absolutely wrong, the customer canNOT stick a package in his pants  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:32 PM   #164 
  - You mean the "oh so limited supply"  jmowreader   Nov-25-11 10:07 PM   #83 
  - Yes! n/t  rtassi   Nov-26-11 11:58 AM   #135 
  - And what, exactly, does that vhave to do with the violence done by hired goons against a customer?  Ikonoklast   Nov-26-11 09:11 AM   #122 
     - Please don't be intentionally dense ... it's out of fashion ..  rtassi   Nov-26-11 12:14 PM   #137 
        - Yes, you did blame the victim.  Ikonoklast   Nov-26-11 12:31 PM   #139 
           - Actually I don't mind being called out ... quite up for it ...  rtassi   Nov-26-11 03:36 PM   #142 
  - Thank you L. Coyote.  Paka   Nov-25-11 04:57 PM   #30 
     - It is not shoplifting until you bypass the payment station and leave the store  L. Coyote   Nov-26-11 09:58 AM   #123 
  - Just Say NO - that's what my parents did  dballance   Nov-25-11 04:19 PM   #20 
  - ..fighting, mauling, standing in line, and pissing their pants  russspeakeasy   Nov-25-11 04:38 PM   #22 
  - if there was enough for everyone, there wouldn't be this frenzy  cap   Nov-25-11 04:49 PM   #28 
     - Yup!  russspeakeasy   Nov-25-11 04:58 PM   #31 
  - I honestly don't understand the mentality.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-25-11 05:53 PM   #39 
  - between this guy being assaulted by police,  SemperEadem   Nov-25-11 04:45 PM   #26 
  - can't you just hear,  onethatcares   Nov-25-11 05:12 PM   #34 
  - You are so right, SemperEadem.  Paka   Nov-25-11 05:13 PM   #35 
  - I know I am not the only one on DU who has simply STOPPED with the holiday rituals.  dixiegrrrrl   Nov-25-11 06:28 PM   #50 
     - Right there with you,  chervilant   Nov-25-11 07:56 PM   #66 
     - I send out cards and a few secondhand or handmade gifts to friends  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:04 AM   #103 
  - YES! n/t  rtassi   Nov-26-11 03:40 PM   #143 
  - as far as I know he wasn't stealing anything. if I didn't have a 3rd hand I'd be putting stuff in  PatrynXX   Nov-25-11 04:48 PM   #27 
  - Putting unpaid for merchandise in your clothing  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:18 PM   #46 
     - Even so...  dash_bannon   Nov-26-11 10:07 AM   #127 
  - They completely failed basic first aid on the guy.  Ash_F   Nov-25-11 04:54 PM   #29 
  - You're correct,  They_Live   Nov-25-11 07:00 PM   #59 
  - True but the main problem is tilting the head forward was choking him  Ash_F   Nov-25-11 11:36 PM   #90 
  - obviously it doesn't because all it shows is the aftermath  TorchTheWitch   Nov-25-11 08:12 PM   #69 
  - Bullshit on that  Horse with no Name   Nov-25-11 10:06 PM   #82 
  - Apparently we agree  TorchTheWitch   Dec-02-11 09:42 PM   #166 
  - WalMart is notorious for having  SheilaT   Nov-26-11 01:04 AM   #104 
     - I have a really hard time believing that  TorchTheWitch   Dec-02-11 09:47 PM   #167 
  - They sure did.  LizW   Nov-26-11 07:54 AM   #117 
  - So the reason this was justified...  PatrynXX   Nov-25-11 05:04 PM   #32 
  - It may still have been a crime  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:20 PM   #47 
  - Shoplifting isn't a violent crime.  Occupy_2012   Nov-25-11 11:55 PM   #93 
     - Several decades ago when I worked at a retail store,  SheilaT   Nov-26-11 01:05 AM   #105 
  - Ha!! You think they'll stop shopping there?! No way. It's their god. nt.  harmonicon   Nov-26-11 07:54 AM   #116 
  - it was not justified, dude committed a crime but you don't handle his crime like this  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:42 PM   #165 
  - Is it shoplifting if you haven't tried to get past the checkout?  IADEMO2004   Nov-25-11 05:12 PM   #33 
  - No, but it was likely criminal concealment.  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:21 PM   #48 
     - It's not a death penalty crime  Missy Vixen   Nov-26-11 12:23 AM   #96 
  - Good gawd...the Police Militia out of control.  SoapBox   Nov-25-11 06:12 PM   #44 
  - The force was way too excessive, but he did break the law in Arizona  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:26 PM   #49 
  - many Authoritarians use such laws to justify police brutality.  uncle ray   Nov-25-11 06:38 PM   #52 
  - I wanted to make sure all the people that didn't know the law had a response  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:50 PM   #56 
  - It's not clear that he broke the law.  Vattel   Nov-25-11 06:49 PM   #54 
  - and even if he had  They_Live   Nov-25-11 06:58 PM   #57 
  - I hope he  warrior1   Nov-25-11 06:59 PM   #58 
  - No - it was not concealed n/t  KT2000   Nov-25-11 11:50 PM   #92 
  - It ain't concealed if it's partially visible  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:00 AM   #101 
     - That was my Q - where were the cops when the grandson was being trampled??  Nay   Nov-26-11 10:03 AM   #124 
  - the USA's cultural of institutional brutality is beyond the tipping point, either people give in and  stockholmer   Nov-25-11 06:50 PM   #55 
  - Looks that way... Some people are avoiding public places all they can.  freshwest   Dec-02-11 10:02 PM   #168 
  - The company store  unionworks   Nov-25-11 07:09 PM   #60 
  - Glad to know someone was looking out for the video games...  Barack_America   Nov-25-11 07:39 PM   #65 
  - I'm concerned about the Grandson, how old is he and how will this hurt him mentally?  SaveAmerica   Nov-25-11 08:41 PM   #72 
  - my thoughts too  dana_b   Nov-26-11 10:50 AM   #129 
  - Were these real cops or rent-a-cops?  savannah43   Nov-25-11 08:52 PM   #73 
  - I think one article said off-duty cops hired by Wal-mart  nadine_mn   Nov-25-11 10:37 PM   #87 
  - Phoenix, again? ...and Wall Mart... nt  kgnu_fan   Nov-25-11 09:17 PM   #76 
  - Buckeye is barely a "suburb" of Phoenix, it's so far away  lbrtbell   Nov-25-11 09:31 PM   #77 
     - 30 miles...not that far  Horse with no Name   Nov-25-11 10:07 PM   #84 
  - I'm starting to wonder if the police are trying to make the point that they ARE fascist MF-er's.  snot   Nov-25-11 09:58 PM   #79 
  - I thought it was only considered stealing  Horse with no Name   Nov-25-11 09:59 PM   #80 
  - According to Walmart's rules, one is not guilty of shoplifting until one passes the cash register on  1monster   Nov-25-11 10:05 PM   #81 
  - Interesting  evilhime   Nov-25-11 10:19 PM   #85 
  - Pictorial quiz: Is it Occupy, or Black Friday?  KamaAina   Nov-25-11 10:20 PM   #86 
  - What the hell are cops doing in a Wal-Mart store?  Art_from_Ark   Nov-25-11 11:04 PM   #88 
  - Protecting merchandise is SO much more important than protecting proles  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:02 AM   #102 
     - You know, back when Sam Walton was alive,  Art_from_Ark   Nov-27-11 04:13 AM   #155 
        - Ever notice that Liberal 1%ers are often first gen?  ieoeja   Nov-28-11 10:44 AM   #160 
  - First, it wasn't shoplifting. Second, being convicted of shoplifting doesn't deserve this sentence.  saras   Nov-25-11 11:30 PM   #89 
  - But obviously to the cop and some here the vague notion that the precious video game  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:07 AM   #106 
     - Life is very cheap to some here. However, DVDs are quite expensive.  avaistheone1   Nov-26-11 01:28 AM   #109 
  - The police are out of control.  Zoeisright   Nov-26-11 01:22 AM   #107 
  - need more cops like this.....  MindMover   Nov-26-11 02:14 AM   #110 
  - I just do not know what to fucking say anymore...nt  and-justice-for-all   Nov-26-11 02:25 AM   #111 
  - All this for a few toys?  davidthegnome   Nov-26-11 02:54 AM   #113 
  - If you want to encounter real rabid dogs & the insane, just  southerncrone   Nov-26-11 03:01 AM   #114 
  - They just showed the mug shot  spinbaby   Nov-26-11 06:12 AM   #115 
  - You don't even need to be a minority to get fucked up in AZ  mdmc   Nov-26-11 08:59 AM   #120 
  - Maricopa county is the WORST!!!!  kgnu_fan   Nov-27-11 09:50 AM   #156 
  - Police account is a lie:  mainer   Nov-26-11 11:40 AM   #132 
  - Another foot sweep on a concrete floor. Fucking pigs should be taught that it can be deadly.  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-26-11 01:57 PM   #141 
  - Cameras "weren't working" in Walmart; missed the incident  mainer   Nov-26-11 11:55 AM   #133 
  - totally agree...  coyote   Nov-26-11 06:50 PM   #148 
  - Well his chances of getting dementia just rose precipitously  Duer 157099   Nov-27-11 03:20 AM   #154 
  - Fucking cops n/t  Hotler   Nov-28-11 08:44 AM   #158 
  - Just another example of why I think it's starting to become the 1950s all over again. nt  AverageJoe90   Dec-02-11 03:46 PM   #161 
  - while he should not have been bodyslammed for shoplifting...  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:25 PM   #162 
  - UPDATE: cop's name released  mainer   Dec-03-11 09:02 AM   #169 

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