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| 76. Phoenix, again? ...and Wall Mart... nt |
| -Police body slam leaves grandpa bloody, unconscious at Wal-Mart |
Judi Lynn |
Nov-25-11 03:05 PM |
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they should make a video game about shopping at Wal Mart |
Enrique |
Nov-25-11 03:07 PM |
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It would be rated unsuitable for children n/t |
arcane1 |
Nov-25-11 03:10 PM |
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That would be easy |
christx30 |
Nov-25-11 03:35 PM |
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They have a website.............. |
Historic NY |
Nov-25-11 04:41 PM |
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That will be part of the next Batman or Military Sim game |
Tyrs WolfDaemon |
Nov-25-11 07:33 PM |
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You might be a genius. |
zonkers |
Nov-25-11 08:32 PM |
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Call of Capitalism: Modern Shopping n/t |
Sabriel |
Nov-27-11 10:37 AM |
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National Lampoon's "Shopping at Wally World"... |
JHB |
Nov-28-11 09:20 AM |
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Police work attracts some of the most stupid people. |
tabasco |
Nov-25-11 03:08 PM |
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Beyond stupid, you have to a sociopath or pschopath cop to respond with |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-25-11 05:49 PM |
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I was just talking to my cousin in England |
pennylane100 |
Nov-25-11 06:42 PM |
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According to a friend of mine, we do the same thing here |
HillWilliam |
Nov-25-11 07:27 PM |
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Does he have source to that study? I would be interested. |
LiberalFighter |
Nov-26-11 08:48 PM |
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Well I can ask him next time I talk to him. |
pennylane100 |
Nov-26-11 11:28 PM |
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It wasn't even a theft. He put it in his waistband to save his grandson from being trampled |
Lorien |
Nov-26-11 12:53 AM |
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You are exactly right |
itsrobert |
Nov-26-11 12:33 PM |
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Why were the police even in the store? |
LiberalFighter |
Nov-26-11 08:52 PM |
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yeah right. i think if he was out to rescue grandson he would have dropped the game |
pitohui |
Dec-02-11 06:27 PM |
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gotta protect those profits, not the safety of customers. nt |
msongs |
Nov-25-11 03:08 PM |
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The dollar bill rules, people, just in the way of the sleazy corporate machine. Give us |
RKP5637 |
Nov-25-11 03:11 PM |
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Surely life is cheap. Toilet paper is expensive. |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-25-11 05:51 PM |
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Yep, it's getting to be a luxury item! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Nov-25-11 05:54 PM |
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AP: Ariz. grandfather roughed up by police in Walmart |
Judi Lynn |
Nov-25-11 03:17 PM |
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If he went unconscious and his head was banged then he has a brain injury. |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-25-11 06:07 PM |
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I lost my father when he fainted related to too much heart medication and hit his head on the |
cyberpj |
Nov-25-11 09:09 PM |
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I am sorry for your loss of your father |
left on green only |
Nov-26-11 12:03 AM |
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Thanks. |
cyberpj |
Nov-26-11 10:04 AM |
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sorry to hear about your pops |
mdmc |
Nov-26-11 09:02 AM |
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Thank you. nt |
cyberpj |
Nov-26-11 10:05 AM |
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What are they putting |
Turbineguy |
Nov-25-11 03:21 PM |
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Bush's culture of hate |
Marthe48 |
Nov-25-11 03:24 PM |
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Yep, exactly!!! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Nov-25-11 03:25 PM |
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ownership society |
Enrique |
Nov-25-11 04:01 PM |
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sorry to say it goes back a lot further than Bush |
G_j |
Nov-25-11 06:35 PM |
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Yes they did--I felt hopeful we were all going forward-- |
Marthe48 |
Nov-26-11 07:24 PM |
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No wonder citizens want to be armed if this crap gets even worse. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Nov-25-11 03:27 PM |
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500 years from now anthropologists |
LARED |
Nov-25-11 03:27 PM |
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I'm an anthropologist and |
L. Coyote |
Nov-25-11 03:59 PM |
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I also an an anthropologist -PhD Uwm 1980. Where are you based? |
mysuzuki2 |
Nov-25-11 06:00 PM |
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My thinking exactly! |
rucognizant |
Nov-25-11 08:12 PM |
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Black Friday needs to be online-only |
lbrtbell |
Nov-25-11 09:36 PM |
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I hope the grandfather has an excellent lawyer |
Missy Vixen |
Nov-25-11 03:38 PM |
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Handcuffing an unconscious man and moving his head and neck! |
spedtr90 |
Nov-25-11 03:51 PM |
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and leaving him face down in a pool of his own blood |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-25-11 08:07 PM |
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I don't normally call the cops "pigs" but in this case they truly are. |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-26-11 01:23 AM |
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Is the "Arapiao trainee" going to be put on administrative leave? |
Dont call me Shirley |
Nov-25-11 03:51 PM |
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BOYCOTT WAL*MART |
L. Coyote |
Nov-25-11 03:58 PM |
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If you are not already Boycotting Walmart |
FreakinDJ |
Nov-25-11 04:19 PM |
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+1 |
quakerboy |
Nov-25-11 07:21 PM |
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You mean Mal-Wart don't you? |
savannah43 |
Nov-25-11 08:54 PM |
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Yup. |
UnrepentantLiberal |
Nov-26-11 11:55 PM |
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I don't like Wallmart any better then you do ... |
rtassi |
Nov-25-11 04:25 PM |
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Walmart encourages the frenzy by its policies. And they do so for one motive: profit. |
kestrel91316 |
Nov-25-11 04:38 PM |
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Can Walmart do ANYTHING right? |
joeglow3 |
Nov-25-11 08:31 PM |
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CNBC discussed the Black Friday deals... |
CoffeeCat |
Nov-25-11 11:48 PM |
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Our city has 10 Walmarts and 3 Best Buys |
joeglow3 |
Nov-26-11 06:33 PM |
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they have great deals |
suninvited |
Nov-26-11 12:16 AM |
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As mentioned above, you are confusing WalMart with Best Buy |
joeglow3 |
Nov-26-11 06:34 PM |
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It's really easy to handle these sort of items and crowds if you want to do it. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-26-11 02:26 AM |
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That is EXACTLY how they did it at every Walmart in our town |
joeglow3 |
Nov-26-11 06:37 PM |
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Code Alert, Code Alert. This poster is speaking in code. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-25-11 04:42 PM |
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But the customer did nothing wrong. You can stick a |
lob1 |
Nov-25-11 05:16 PM |
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That's absolutely incorrect, in my state at least. |
caseymoz |
Nov-25-11 06:02 PM |
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In his waistband isn't concealment. |
Demit |
Nov-25-11 07:25 PM |
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I was picturing him in a winter coat. |
caseymoz |
Nov-26-11 08:16 AM |
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Why are you assuming anything at all? |
Demit |
Nov-26-11 11:31 AM |
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Assuming? Look at you. I never mentioned his waistband to begin with. |
caseymoz |
Nov-26-11 12:05 PM |
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It is that time of year |
atreides1 |
Nov-26-11 06:46 PM |
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In many states you're wrong |
WonderGrunion |
Nov-25-11 06:16 PM |
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It's not "hiding" if it's visible |
Lorien |
Nov-26-11 12:48 AM |
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Jeeze. I better check Illinois statutes. I'm constantly placing .... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-26-11 12:52 AM |
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If you notice, though, most stores have a sign that says |
caseymoz |
Nov-26-11 08:23 AM |
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I see a lot of contractors doing it. I'm pretty sure HD's policy is pretty hands-off till you leave.... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-26-11 10:27 AM |
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I'm pretty sure contractors commonly pocket things. |
caseymoz |
Nov-26-11 11:05 AM |
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Exactly. Is that so hard to understand? |
Lorien |
Nov-26-11 12:45 AM |
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I do that too. |
xxqqqzme |
Nov-26-11 12:26 PM |
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You may be right about the waistband thing ... and you will |
rtassi |
Nov-26-11 11:56 AM |
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you are absolutely wrong, the customer canNOT stick a package in his pants |
pitohui |
Dec-02-11 06:32 PM |
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You mean the "oh so limited supply" |
jmowreader |
Nov-25-11 10:07 PM |
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Yes! n/t |
rtassi |
Nov-26-11 11:58 AM |
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And what, exactly, does that vhave to do with the violence done by hired goons against a customer? |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-26-11 09:11 AM |
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Please don't be intentionally dense ... it's out of fashion .. |
rtassi |
Nov-26-11 12:14 PM |
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Yes, you did blame the victim. |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-26-11 12:31 PM |
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Actually I don't mind being called out ... quite up for it ... |
rtassi |
Nov-26-11 03:36 PM |
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Thank you L. Coyote. |
Paka |
Nov-25-11 04:57 PM |
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It is not shoplifting until you bypass the payment station and leave the store |
L. Coyote |
Nov-26-11 09:58 AM |
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Just Say NO - that's what my parents did |
dballance |
Nov-25-11 04:19 PM |
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..fighting, mauling, standing in line, and pissing their pants |
russspeakeasy |
Nov-25-11 04:38 PM |
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if there was enough for everyone, there wouldn't be this frenzy |
cap |
Nov-25-11 04:49 PM |
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Yup! |
russspeakeasy |
Nov-25-11 04:58 PM |
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I honestly don't understand the mentality. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-25-11 05:53 PM |
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between this guy being assaulted by police, |
SemperEadem |
Nov-25-11 04:45 PM |
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can't you just hear, |
onethatcares |
Nov-25-11 05:12 PM |
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You are so right, SemperEadem. |
Paka |
Nov-25-11 05:13 PM |
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I know I am not the only one on DU who has simply STOPPED with the holiday rituals. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Nov-25-11 06:28 PM |
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Right there with you, |
chervilant |
Nov-25-11 07:56 PM |
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I send out cards and a few secondhand or handmade gifts to friends |
Lorien |
Nov-26-11 01:04 AM |
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YES! n/t |
rtassi |
Nov-26-11 03:40 PM |
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as far as I know he wasn't stealing anything. if I didn't have a 3rd hand I'd be putting stuff in |
PatrynXX |
Nov-25-11 04:48 PM |
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Putting unpaid for merchandise in your clothing |
WonderGrunion |
Nov-25-11 06:18 PM |
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Even so... |
dash_bannon |
Nov-26-11 10:07 AM |
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They completely failed basic first aid on the guy. |
Ash_F |
Nov-25-11 04:54 PM |
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You're correct, |
They_Live |
Nov-25-11 07:00 PM |
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True but the main problem is tilting the head forward was choking him |
Ash_F |
Nov-25-11 11:36 PM |
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obviously it doesn't because all it shows is the aftermath |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-25-11 08:12 PM |
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Bullshit on that |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-25-11 10:06 PM |
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Apparently we agree |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-02-11 09:42 PM |
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WalMart is notorious for having |
SheilaT |
Nov-26-11 01:04 AM |
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I have a really hard time believing that |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-02-11 09:47 PM |
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They sure did. |
LizW |
Nov-26-11 07:54 AM |
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So the reason this was justified... |
PatrynXX |
Nov-25-11 05:04 PM |
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It may still have been a crime |
WonderGrunion |
Nov-25-11 06:20 PM |
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Shoplifting isn't a violent crime. |
Occupy_2012 |
Nov-25-11 11:55 PM |
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Several decades ago when I worked at a retail store, |
SheilaT |
Nov-26-11 01:05 AM |
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Ha!! You think they'll stop shopping there?! No way. It's their god. nt. |
harmonicon |
Nov-26-11 07:54 AM |
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it was not justified, dude committed a crime but you don't handle his crime like this |
pitohui |
Dec-02-11 06:42 PM |
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Is it shoplifting if you haven't tried to get past the checkout? |
IADEMO2004 |
Nov-25-11 05:12 PM |
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No, but it was likely criminal concealment. |
WonderGrunion |
Nov-25-11 06:21 PM |
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It's not a death penalty crime |
Missy Vixen |
Nov-26-11 12:23 AM |
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Good gawd...the Police Militia out of control. |
SoapBox |
Nov-25-11 06:12 PM |
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The force was way too excessive, but he did break the law in Arizona |
WonderGrunion |
Nov-25-11 06:26 PM |
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many Authoritarians use such laws to justify police brutality. |
uncle ray |
Nov-25-11 06:38 PM |
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I wanted to make sure all the people that didn't know the law had a response |
WonderGrunion |
Nov-25-11 06:50 PM |
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It's not clear that he broke the law. |
Vattel |
Nov-25-11 06:49 PM |
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and even if he had |
They_Live |
Nov-25-11 06:58 PM |
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I hope he |
warrior1 |
Nov-25-11 06:59 PM |
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No - it was not concealed n/t |
KT2000 |
Nov-25-11 11:50 PM |
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It ain't concealed if it's partially visible |
Lorien |
Nov-26-11 01:00 AM |
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That was my Q - where were the cops when the grandson was being trampled?? |
Nay |
Nov-26-11 10:03 AM |
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the USA's cultural of institutional brutality is beyond the tipping point, either people give in and |
stockholmer |
Nov-25-11 06:50 PM |
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Looks that way... Some people are avoiding public places all they can. |
freshwest |
Dec-02-11 10:02 PM |
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The company store |
unionworks |
Nov-25-11 07:09 PM |
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Glad to know someone was looking out for the video games... |
Barack_America |
Nov-25-11 07:39 PM |
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I'm concerned about the Grandson, how old is he and how will this hurt him mentally? |
SaveAmerica |
Nov-25-11 08:41 PM |
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my thoughts too |
dana_b |
Nov-26-11 10:50 AM |
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Were these real cops or rent-a-cops? |
savannah43 |
Nov-25-11 08:52 PM |
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I think one article said off-duty cops hired by Wal-mart |
nadine_mn |
Nov-25-11 10:37 PM |
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Phoenix, again? ...and Wall Mart... nt |
kgnu_fan |
Nov-25-11 09:17 PM |
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Buckeye is barely a "suburb" of Phoenix, it's so far away |
lbrtbell |
Nov-25-11 09:31 PM |
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30 miles...not that far |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-25-11 10:07 PM |
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I'm starting to wonder if the police are trying to make the point that they ARE fascist MF-er's. |
snot |
Nov-25-11 09:58 PM |
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I thought it was only considered stealing |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-25-11 09:59 PM |
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According to Walmart's rules, one is not guilty of shoplifting until one passes the cash register on |
1monster |
Nov-25-11 10:05 PM |
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Interesting |
evilhime |
Nov-25-11 10:19 PM |
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Pictorial quiz: Is it Occupy, or Black Friday? |
KamaAina |
Nov-25-11 10:20 PM |
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What the hell are cops doing in a Wal-Mart store? |
Art_from_Ark |
Nov-25-11 11:04 PM |
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Protecting merchandise is SO much more important than protecting proles |
Lorien |
Nov-26-11 01:02 AM |
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You know, back when Sam Walton was alive, |
Art_from_Ark |
Nov-27-11 04:13 AM |
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Ever notice that Liberal 1%ers are often first gen? |
ieoeja |
Nov-28-11 10:44 AM |
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First, it wasn't shoplifting. Second, being convicted of shoplifting doesn't deserve this sentence. |
saras |
Nov-25-11 11:30 PM |
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But obviously to the cop and some here the vague notion that the precious video game |
Lorien |
Nov-26-11 01:07 AM |
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Life is very cheap to some here. However, DVDs are quite expensive. |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-26-11 01:28 AM |
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The police are out of control. |
Zoeisright |
Nov-26-11 01:22 AM |
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need more cops like this..... |
MindMover |
Nov-26-11 02:14 AM |
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I just do not know what to fucking say anymore...nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Nov-26-11 02:25 AM |
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All this for a few toys? |
davidthegnome |
Nov-26-11 02:54 AM |
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If you want to encounter real rabid dogs & the insane, just |
southerncrone |
Nov-26-11 03:01 AM |
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They just showed the mug shot |
spinbaby |
Nov-26-11 06:12 AM |
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You don't even need to be a minority to get fucked up in AZ |
mdmc |
Nov-26-11 08:59 AM |
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Maricopa county is the WORST!!!! |
kgnu_fan |
Nov-27-11 09:50 AM |
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Police account is a lie: |
mainer |
Nov-26-11 11:40 AM |
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Another foot sweep on a concrete floor. Fucking pigs should be taught that it can be deadly. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-26-11 01:57 PM |
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Cameras "weren't working" in Walmart; missed the incident |
mainer |
Nov-26-11 11:55 AM |
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totally agree... |
coyote |
Nov-26-11 06:50 PM |
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Well his chances of getting dementia just rose precipitously |
Duer 157099 |
Nov-27-11 03:20 AM |
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Fucking cops n/t |
Hotler |
Nov-28-11 08:44 AM |
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Just another example of why I think it's starting to become the 1950s all over again. nt |
AverageJoe90 |
Dec-02-11 03:46 PM |
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while he should not have been bodyslammed for shoplifting... |
pitohui |
Dec-02-11 06:25 PM |
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UPDATE: cop's name released |
mainer |
Dec-03-11 09:02 AM |
#169 |