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33. Is it shoplifting if you haven't tried to get past the checkout?
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  -Police body slam leaves grandpa bloody, unconscious at Wal-Mart Judi Lynn  Nov-25-11 03:05 PM   #0 
  - they should make a video game about shopping at Wal Mart  Enrique   Nov-25-11 03:07 PM   #1 
  - It would be rated unsuitable for children n/t  arcane1   Nov-25-11 03:10 PM   #4 
  - That would be easy  christx30   Nov-25-11 03:35 PM   #12 
  - They have a website..............  Historic NY   Nov-25-11 04:41 PM   #24 
  - That will be part of the next Batman or Military Sim game  Tyrs WolfDaemon   Nov-25-11 07:33 PM   #64 
  - You might be a genius.  zonkers   Nov-25-11 08:32 PM   #71 
  - Call of Capitalism: Modern Shopping n/t  Sabriel   Nov-27-11 10:37 AM   #157 
  - National Lampoon's "Shopping at Wally World"...  JHB   Nov-28-11 09:20 AM   #159 
  - Police work attracts some of the most stupid people.  tabasco   Nov-25-11 03:08 PM   #2 
  - Beyond stupid, you have to a sociopath or pschopath cop to respond with  avaistheone1   Nov-25-11 05:49 PM   #37 
     - I was just talking to my cousin in England  pennylane100   Nov-25-11 06:42 PM   #53 
     - According to a friend of mine, we do the same thing here  HillWilliam   Nov-25-11 07:27 PM   #63 
     - Does he have source to that study? I would be interested.  LiberalFighter   Nov-26-11 08:48 PM   #150 
        - Well I can ask him next time I talk to him.  pennylane100   Nov-26-11 11:28 PM   #152 
     - It wasn't even a theft. He put it in his waistband to save his grandson from being trampled  Lorien   Nov-26-11 12:53 AM   #100 
        - You are exactly right  itsrobert   Nov-26-11 12:33 PM   #140 
        - Why were the police even in the store?  LiberalFighter   Nov-26-11 08:52 PM   #151 
        - yeah right. i think if he was out to rescue grandson he would have dropped the game  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:27 PM   #163 
  - gotta protect those profits, not the safety of customers. nt  msongs   Nov-25-11 03:08 PM   #3 
  - The dollar bill rules, people, just in the way of the sleazy corporate machine. Give us  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 03:11 PM   #5 
  - Surely life is cheap. Toilet paper is expensive.  avaistheone1   Nov-25-11 05:51 PM   #38 
     - Yep, it's getting to be a luxury item! n/t  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 05:54 PM   #40 
  - AP: Ariz. grandfather roughed up by police in Walmart  Judi Lynn   Nov-25-11 03:17 PM   #6 
  - If he went unconscious and his head was banged then he has a brain injury.  avaistheone1   Nov-25-11 06:07 PM   #43 
     - I lost my father when he fainted related to too much heart medication and hit his head on the  cyberpj   Nov-25-11 09:09 PM   #75 
        - I am sorry for your loss of your father  left on green only   Nov-26-11 12:03 AM   #94 
        - Thanks.  cyberpj   Nov-26-11 10:04 AM   #125 
        - sorry to hear about your pops  mdmc   Nov-26-11 09:02 AM   #121 
           - Thank you. nt  cyberpj   Nov-26-11 10:05 AM   #126 
  - What are they putting  Turbineguy   Nov-25-11 03:21 PM   #7 
  - Bush's culture of hate  Marthe48   Nov-25-11 03:24 PM   #8 
     - Yep, exactly!!! n/t  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 03:25 PM   #9 
     - ownership society  Enrique   Nov-25-11 04:01 PM   #18 
     - sorry to say it goes back a lot further than Bush  G_j   Nov-25-11 06:35 PM   #51 
        - Yes they did--I felt hopeful we were all going forward--  Marthe48   Nov-26-11 07:24 PM   #149 
  - No wonder citizens want to be armed if this crap gets even worse. n/t  RKP5637   Nov-25-11 03:27 PM   #10 
  - 500 years from now anthropologists  LARED   Nov-25-11 03:27 PM   #11 
  - I'm an anthropologist and  L. Coyote   Nov-25-11 03:59 PM   #17 
  - I also an an anthropologist -PhD Uwm 1980. Where are you based?  mysuzuki2   Nov-25-11 06:00 PM   #41 
  - My thinking exactly!  rucognizant   Nov-25-11 08:12 PM   #68 
  - Black Friday needs to be online-only  lbrtbell   Nov-25-11 09:36 PM   #78 
  - I hope the grandfather has an excellent lawyer  Missy Vixen   Nov-25-11 03:38 PM   #13 
  - Handcuffing an unconscious man and moving his head and neck!  spedtr90   Nov-25-11 03:51 PM   #14 
  - and leaving him face down in a pool of his own blood  TorchTheWitch   Nov-25-11 08:07 PM   #67 
  - I don't normally call the cops "pigs" but in this case they truly are.  avaistheone1   Nov-26-11 01:23 AM   #108 
  - Is the "Arapiao trainee" going to be put on administrative leave?  Dont call me Shirley   Nov-25-11 03:51 PM   #15 
  - BOYCOTT WAL*MART  L. Coyote   Nov-25-11 03:58 PM   #16 
  - If you are not already Boycotting Walmart  FreakinDJ   Nov-25-11 04:19 PM   #19 
  - +1  quakerboy   Nov-25-11 07:21 PM   #61 
  - You mean Mal-Wart don't you?  savannah43   Nov-25-11 08:54 PM   #74 
  - Yup.  UnrepentantLiberal   Nov-26-11 11:55 PM   #153 
  - I don't like Wallmart any better then you do ...  rtassi   Nov-25-11 04:25 PM   #21 
  - Walmart encourages the frenzy by its policies. And they do so for one motive: profit.  kestrel91316   Nov-25-11 04:38 PM   #23 
  - Can Walmart do ANYTHING right?  joeglow3   Nov-25-11 08:31 PM   #70 
     - CNBC discussed the Black Friday deals...  CoffeeCat   Nov-25-11 11:48 PM   #91 
     - Our city has 10 Walmarts and 3 Best Buys  joeglow3   Nov-26-11 06:33 PM   #144 
     - they have great deals  suninvited   Nov-26-11 12:16 AM   #95 
     - As mentioned above, you are confusing WalMart with Best Buy  joeglow3   Nov-26-11 06:34 PM   #145 
     - It's really easy to handle these sort of items and crowds if you want to do it.  LeftyMom   Nov-26-11 02:26 AM   #112 
        - That is EXACTLY how they did it at every Walmart in our town  joeglow3   Nov-26-11 06:37 PM   #146 
  - Code Alert, Code Alert. This poster is speaking in code. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-25-11 04:42 PM   #25 
  - But the customer did nothing wrong. You can stick a  lob1   Nov-25-11 05:16 PM   #36 
  - That's absolutely incorrect, in my state at least.  caseymoz   Nov-25-11 06:02 PM   #42 
  - In his waistband isn't concealment.  Demit   Nov-25-11 07:25 PM   #62 
     - I was picturing him in a winter coat.  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 08:16 AM   #118 
        - Why are you assuming anything at all?  Demit   Nov-26-11 11:31 AM   #131 
        - Assuming? Look at you. I never mentioned his waistband to begin with.  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 12:05 PM   #136 
        - It is that time of year  atreides1   Nov-26-11 06:46 PM   #147 
  - In many states you're wrong  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:16 PM   #45 
  - It's not "hiding" if it's visible  Lorien   Nov-26-11 12:48 AM   #98 
  - Jeeze. I better check Illinois statutes. I'm constantly placing ....  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-26-11 12:52 AM   #99 
     - If you notice, though, most stores have a sign that says  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 08:23 AM   #119 
        - I see a lot of contractors doing it. I'm pretty sure HD's policy is pretty hands-off till you leave....  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-26-11 10:27 AM   #128 
           - I'm pretty sure contractors commonly pocket things.  caseymoz   Nov-26-11 11:05 AM   #130 
  - Exactly. Is that so hard to understand?  Lorien   Nov-26-11 12:45 AM   #97 
  - I do that too.  xxqqqzme   Nov-26-11 12:26 PM   #138 
  - You may be right about the waistband thing ... and you will  rtassi   Nov-26-11 11:56 AM   #134 
  - you are absolutely wrong, the customer canNOT stick a package in his pants  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:32 PM   #164 
  - You mean the "oh so limited supply"  jmowreader   Nov-25-11 10:07 PM   #83 
  - Yes! n/t  rtassi   Nov-26-11 11:58 AM   #135 
  - And what, exactly, does that vhave to do with the violence done by hired goons against a customer?  Ikonoklast   Nov-26-11 09:11 AM   #122 
     - Please don't be intentionally dense ... it's out of fashion ..  rtassi   Nov-26-11 12:14 PM   #137 
        - Yes, you did blame the victim.  Ikonoklast   Nov-26-11 12:31 PM   #139 
           - Actually I don't mind being called out ... quite up for it ...  rtassi   Nov-26-11 03:36 PM   #142 
  - Thank you L. Coyote.  Paka   Nov-25-11 04:57 PM   #30 
     - It is not shoplifting until you bypass the payment station and leave the store  L. Coyote   Nov-26-11 09:58 AM   #123 
  - Just Say NO - that's what my parents did  dballance   Nov-25-11 04:19 PM   #20 
  - ..fighting, mauling, standing in line, and pissing their pants  russspeakeasy   Nov-25-11 04:38 PM   #22 
  - if there was enough for everyone, there wouldn't be this frenzy  cap   Nov-25-11 04:49 PM   #28 
     - Yup!  russspeakeasy   Nov-25-11 04:58 PM   #31 
  - I honestly don't understand the mentality.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-25-11 05:53 PM   #39 
  - between this guy being assaulted by police,  SemperEadem   Nov-25-11 04:45 PM   #26 
  - can't you just hear,  onethatcares   Nov-25-11 05:12 PM   #34 
  - You are so right, SemperEadem.  Paka   Nov-25-11 05:13 PM   #35 
  - I know I am not the only one on DU who has simply STOPPED with the holiday rituals.  dixiegrrrrl   Nov-25-11 06:28 PM   #50 
     - Right there with you,  chervilant   Nov-25-11 07:56 PM   #66 
     - I send out cards and a few secondhand or handmade gifts to friends  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:04 AM   #103 
  - YES! n/t  rtassi   Nov-26-11 03:40 PM   #143 
  - as far as I know he wasn't stealing anything. if I didn't have a 3rd hand I'd be putting stuff in  PatrynXX   Nov-25-11 04:48 PM   #27 
  - Putting unpaid for merchandise in your clothing  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:18 PM   #46 
     - Even so...  dash_bannon   Nov-26-11 10:07 AM   #127 
  - They completely failed basic first aid on the guy.  Ash_F   Nov-25-11 04:54 PM   #29 
  - You're correct,  They_Live   Nov-25-11 07:00 PM   #59 
  - True but the main problem is tilting the head forward was choking him  Ash_F   Nov-25-11 11:36 PM   #90 
  - obviously it doesn't because all it shows is the aftermath  TorchTheWitch   Nov-25-11 08:12 PM   #69 
  - Bullshit on that  Horse with no Name   Nov-25-11 10:06 PM   #82 
  - Apparently we agree  TorchTheWitch   Dec-02-11 09:42 PM   #166 
  - WalMart is notorious for having  SheilaT   Nov-26-11 01:04 AM   #104 
     - I have a really hard time believing that  TorchTheWitch   Dec-02-11 09:47 PM   #167 
  - They sure did.  LizW   Nov-26-11 07:54 AM   #117 
  - So the reason this was justified...  PatrynXX   Nov-25-11 05:04 PM   #32 
  - It may still have been a crime  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:20 PM   #47 
  - Shoplifting isn't a violent crime.  Occupy_2012   Nov-25-11 11:55 PM   #93 
     - Several decades ago when I worked at a retail store,  SheilaT   Nov-26-11 01:05 AM   #105 
  - Ha!! You think they'll stop shopping there?! No way. It's their god. nt.  harmonicon   Nov-26-11 07:54 AM   #116 
  - it was not justified, dude committed a crime but you don't handle his crime like this  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:42 PM   #165 
  - Is it shoplifting if you haven't tried to get past the checkout?  IADEMO2004   Nov-25-11 05:12 PM   #33 
  - No, but it was likely criminal concealment.  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:21 PM   #48 
     - It's not a death penalty crime  Missy Vixen   Nov-26-11 12:23 AM   #96 
  - Good gawd...the Police Militia out of control.  SoapBox   Nov-25-11 06:12 PM   #44 
  - The force was way too excessive, but he did break the law in Arizona  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:26 PM   #49 
  - many Authoritarians use such laws to justify police brutality.  uncle ray   Nov-25-11 06:38 PM   #52 
  - I wanted to make sure all the people that didn't know the law had a response  WonderGrunion   Nov-25-11 06:50 PM   #56 
  - It's not clear that he broke the law.  Vattel   Nov-25-11 06:49 PM   #54 
  - and even if he had  They_Live   Nov-25-11 06:58 PM   #57 
  - I hope he  warrior1   Nov-25-11 06:59 PM   #58 
  - No - it was not concealed n/t  KT2000   Nov-25-11 11:50 PM   #92 
  - It ain't concealed if it's partially visible  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:00 AM   #101 
     - That was my Q - where were the cops when the grandson was being trampled??  Nay   Nov-26-11 10:03 AM   #124 
  - the USA's cultural of institutional brutality is beyond the tipping point, either people give in and  stockholmer   Nov-25-11 06:50 PM   #55 
  - Looks that way... Some people are avoiding public places all they can.  freshwest   Dec-02-11 10:02 PM   #168 
  - The company store  unionworks   Nov-25-11 07:09 PM   #60 
  - Glad to know someone was looking out for the video games...  Barack_America   Nov-25-11 07:39 PM   #65 
  - I'm concerned about the Grandson, how old is he and how will this hurt him mentally?  SaveAmerica   Nov-25-11 08:41 PM   #72 
  - my thoughts too  dana_b   Nov-26-11 10:50 AM   #129 
  - Were these real cops or rent-a-cops?  savannah43   Nov-25-11 08:52 PM   #73 
  - I think one article said off-duty cops hired by Wal-mart  nadine_mn   Nov-25-11 10:37 PM   #87 
  - Phoenix, again? ...and Wall Mart... nt  kgnu_fan   Nov-25-11 09:17 PM   #76 
  - Buckeye is barely a "suburb" of Phoenix, it's so far away  lbrtbell   Nov-25-11 09:31 PM   #77 
     - 30 miles...not that far  Horse with no Name   Nov-25-11 10:07 PM   #84 
  - I'm starting to wonder if the police are trying to make the point that they ARE fascist MF-er's.  snot   Nov-25-11 09:58 PM   #79 
  - I thought it was only considered stealing  Horse with no Name   Nov-25-11 09:59 PM   #80 
  - According to Walmart's rules, one is not guilty of shoplifting until one passes the cash register on  1monster   Nov-25-11 10:05 PM   #81 
  - Interesting  evilhime   Nov-25-11 10:19 PM   #85 
  - Pictorial quiz: Is it Occupy, or Black Friday?  KamaAina   Nov-25-11 10:20 PM   #86 
  - What the hell are cops doing in a Wal-Mart store?  Art_from_Ark   Nov-25-11 11:04 PM   #88 
  - Protecting merchandise is SO much more important than protecting proles  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:02 AM   #102 
     - You know, back when Sam Walton was alive,  Art_from_Ark   Nov-27-11 04:13 AM   #155 
        - Ever notice that Liberal 1%ers are often first gen?  ieoeja   Nov-28-11 10:44 AM   #160 
  - First, it wasn't shoplifting. Second, being convicted of shoplifting doesn't deserve this sentence.  saras   Nov-25-11 11:30 PM   #89 
  - But obviously to the cop and some here the vague notion that the precious video game  Lorien   Nov-26-11 01:07 AM   #106 
     - Life is very cheap to some here. However, DVDs are quite expensive.  avaistheone1   Nov-26-11 01:28 AM   #109 
  - The police are out of control.  Zoeisright   Nov-26-11 01:22 AM   #107 
  - need more cops like this.....  MindMover   Nov-26-11 02:14 AM   #110 
  - I just do not know what to fucking say anymore...nt  and-justice-for-all   Nov-26-11 02:25 AM   #111 
  - All this for a few toys?  davidthegnome   Nov-26-11 02:54 AM   #113 
  - If you want to encounter real rabid dogs & the insane, just  southerncrone   Nov-26-11 03:01 AM   #114 
  - They just showed the mug shot  spinbaby   Nov-26-11 06:12 AM   #115 
  - You don't even need to be a minority to get fucked up in AZ  mdmc   Nov-26-11 08:59 AM   #120 
  - Maricopa county is the WORST!!!!  kgnu_fan   Nov-27-11 09:50 AM   #156 
  - Police account is a lie:  mainer   Nov-26-11 11:40 AM   #132 
  - Another foot sweep on a concrete floor. Fucking pigs should be taught that it can be deadly.  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-26-11 01:57 PM   #141 
  - Cameras "weren't working" in Walmart; missed the incident  mainer   Nov-26-11 11:55 AM   #133 
  - totally agree...  coyote   Nov-26-11 06:50 PM   #148 
  - Well his chances of getting dementia just rose precipitously  Duer 157099   Nov-27-11 03:20 AM   #154 
  - Fucking cops n/t  Hotler   Nov-28-11 08:44 AM   #158 
  - Just another example of why I think it's starting to become the 1950s all over again. nt  AverageJoe90   Dec-02-11 03:46 PM   #161 
  - while he should not have been bodyslammed for shoplifting...  pitohui   Dec-02-11 06:25 PM   #162 
  - UPDATE: cop's name released  mainer   Dec-03-11 09:02 AM   #169 
 

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