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Reply #58: Agreed. I just read through the entire thread and here you are, saying exactly what I felt! [View All]

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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 12:35 PM
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58. Agreed. I just read through the entire thread and here you are, saying exactly what I felt!
I feel very privileged to have watched the dialogue here. Breivik opened a lot of eyes to the problems of assimilation in Norway and I don't pretend to have enough facts to answer the large questions facing that culture.

Sounds like Norway hasn't implemented any real plans for long term integration. Or perhaps it is the nature of the immigrants themselves (mostly illiterate religiously conservative agricultural workers) who have never considered, or won't allow, education and/or different lifestyle choices for their children. Cultures like France (and Norway) have clearly defined national identities that they are justifiably proud of, and I can't imagine how hard it must be to watch new immigrants reject it all outright, not for just the first few years but for decades - inculcating in their children that their host country's values must be shunned. Diocletian and Lars have laid out a lot to think about....

My grandfather was Norwegian and he never spoke in conversations. He was always kind and jovial but not a big conversationalist, ever. While I always just put that down to just his nature alone, Diocletian and Lars appear to believe it's a national character trait. That would also play an inhibiting factor for new neighbors!
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