MADem
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Sat Nov-26-11 02:49 PM
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| 51. If you're starving on a desert island, and you have a bar of gold and |
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your buddy has a bar of candy, who has the thing of value?
Gold is only handy because of what it can--in some cases--buy. That's the value of it, that people will exchange it for other things.
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| -Chavez says gold being flown back to Venezuela |
Judi Lynn |
Nov-25-11 02:27 PM |
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It's really just tungsten bars from China |
slackmaster |
Nov-25-11 02:28 PM |
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Prudent. Although I wonder why it was ever in Europe or the U.S. |
harun |
Nov-25-11 02:32 PM |
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Virtually all countries store their gold in the U.S. and Europe. |
former9thward |
Nov-25-11 04:52 PM |
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If you thought you were actually going to buy or sell some |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-25-11 07:19 PM |
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I guess I don't see how this protects Venezuela... |
Ohio Joe |
Nov-25-11 02:33 PM |
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Because gold has real value. |
Dutchmaster |
Nov-25-11 02:48 PM |
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It is also why people buy gold. He is smart to bring the gold home |
jwirr |
Nov-25-11 02:55 PM |
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It was a defensive measure due to the Iran sanction threats. |
joshcryer |
Nov-25-11 09:42 PM |
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So they don't have that wealth if it is stored somewhere outside their country? |
Ohio Joe |
Nov-25-11 03:01 PM |
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Because gold has real value... |
Charronxyz |
Nov-25-11 03:20 PM |
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gold has no real value. It is as imaginary as paper. |
provis99 |
Nov-25-11 05:39 PM |
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Nov-25-11 06:41 PM |
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Great point. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-26-11 02:24 PM |
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It makes a big difference on where it is stored |
Tempest |
Nov-25-11 03:21 PM |
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ahhh, That makes sense |
Ohio Joe |
Nov-25-11 03:29 PM |
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Hit the nail on the head. Nt |
Arctic Dave |
Nov-25-11 03:49 PM |
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Yep, happened around the same time as the Iran sanctions threats. |
joshcryer |
Nov-25-11 09:44 PM |
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And if the US |
christx30 |
Nov-27-11 06:53 PM |
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The gold at Fort Knox is gone... |
Charronxyz |
Nov-25-11 03:14 PM |
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THIS IS SERIES!!!111!!! CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!@2!111!!! |
Brother Buzz |
Nov-25-11 03:53 PM |
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But cant our government make owning gold illegal? I think FDR might have done that. |
rhett o rick |
Nov-25-11 04:53 PM |
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He did but FDR broke the law |
Ter |
Nov-26-11 11:45 AM |
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That's my point exactly. A president can and has forced people |
rhett o rick |
Nov-26-11 02:24 PM |
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No, actually gold has NO real value. It's just as arbitrary as a paper dollar. |
TheWraith |
Nov-25-11 05:17 PM |
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"value is strictly a result of thousands of years of obsession with something scarce and pretty. " |
Dutchmaster |
Nov-25-11 06:07 PM |
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This is exactly what i was going to post. |
SnakeEyes |
Nov-25-11 06:44 PM |
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No, you just imagine that what I said somehow validates your point. |
TheWraith |
Nov-25-11 07:45 PM |
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If you're starving on a desert island, and you have a bar of gold and |
MADem |
Nov-26-11 02:49 PM |
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but you contradict yourself. we value numbers in a computer just as much. |
Tunkamerica |
Nov-27-11 04:07 AM |
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You can't wear it? Odd, I see people wearing gold all the time... |
Thor_MN |
Nov-26-11 10:31 AM |
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No, my point is that it's value is entirely mental, NOT objective. |
TheWraith |
Nov-26-11 12:30 PM |
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I am agreeing with you only to see how strong your heart is. |
rhett o rick |
Nov-26-11 02:32 PM |
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And my point is that unless society is reduced to hand to mouth, your point is moot. |
Thor_MN |
Nov-26-11 02:36 PM |
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gold is a phony as paper dollars. It only has fiat value. |
provis99 |
Nov-25-11 05:39 PM |
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"fiat"... you keep using that word |
SnakeEyes |
Nov-25-11 06:45 PM |
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Nov-25-11 07:40 PM |
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Given that the person you're replying to is an ECONOMIST... |
TheWraith |
Nov-26-11 12:31 PM |
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Our reserves aren't stored in Knox, they're stored in the NY Federal Reserve. |
joshcryer |
Nov-25-11 09:40 PM |
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They're actually stored in both,. |
boppers |
Nov-26-11 09:51 PM |
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That Manhattan figure includes other countries' reserves too |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-27-11 06:34 AM |
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Real wealth? Please |
northzax |
Nov-27-11 11:15 AM |
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How? By not letting a band of mercenaries to start a "rebellion", |
Fool Count |
Nov-25-11 04:14 PM |
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The costs to store it on their own will likely be decades of fees that the reserve here charges. |
joshcryer |
Nov-25-11 09:38 PM |
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Because fear of fraud and/or theft |
Demeter |
Nov-26-11 08:10 AM |
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On a different note than all the rest of the posters |
Broderick |
Nov-25-11 05:47 PM |
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On the other hand, if it doesn't arrive |
Demeter |
Nov-26-11 08:13 AM |
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something.... |
unkachuck |
Nov-25-11 08:22 PM |
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Yes, but you don't break off chunks of a nation's gold reserve to buy stuff. |
Robb |
Nov-25-11 08:54 PM |
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Hugo Chavez has explicitly stated... |
clixtox |
Nov-25-11 09:17 PM |
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DU's CIA moles notwithstanding, who is going to finance anyone with inaccessible collateral? |
Robb |
Nov-25-11 10:34 PM |
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Who makes huge loans to sovereign nations without collateral? |
clixtox |
Nov-26-11 06:18 AM |
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Chavez doesn't NEED "Financing" |
Demeter |
Nov-26-11 08:17 AM |
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LOL OK. nt |
Robb |
Nov-26-11 08:29 AM |
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Chavez has borrowed $32 billion from China. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-26-11 08:38 AM |
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Yes - that's for social programs |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-27-11 04:19 AM |
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No, that's for oil investment projects with CNPC |
ChangoLoa |
Nov-27-11 09:53 AM |
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there were two lots of thirty |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-27-11 10:53 AM |
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Gold and land ownership indeed have real world value |
Harmony Blue |
Nov-26-11 11:37 AM |
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However, either can be easily taken from you by the government. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-26-11 02:33 PM |
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And what can't be? Your bank accounts? Maybe your pension? |
Fool Count |
Nov-27-11 06:16 PM |
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Surprised this wasn't done in 2002. |
David__77 |
Nov-26-11 09:25 PM |
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