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Thu Nov-24-11 02:45 AM
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| 87. It's not like a big secret our elections have been hacked into tiny pieces by 1%'s wood-chipper ~nt |
| -Paper Ballot Election Results Flip in UT After 'Recount' Finds Original Tally 'Extremely' Wrong |
BradBlog |
Nov-23-11 06:32 PM |
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Our elections are a total joke... |
CoffeeCat |
Nov-23-11 06:40 PM |
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For Now |
BeFree |
Nov-23-11 06:56 PM |
#4 |
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I doubt it. There was such an outcry after 2000. I was sure Democrats would do something when they |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:13 PM |
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It was after 2000 that Congress called for unverifiable electronic devices. |
qb |
Nov-23-11 08:58 PM |
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Do you have any basis at all for assuming they were duped? |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 03:58 AM |
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yeah... |
nebenaube |
Nov-24-11 12:27 AM |
#69 |
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That was when I began to fear that some substantial no. of Dems were essentially corrupted. |
snot |
Nov-24-11 01:14 AM |
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yep, me too. n/t |
2pooped2pop |
Nov-24-11 09:57 AM |
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They didn't "do nothing" here - the Democratic PARTY strongly SUPPORTED the machines |
saras |
Nov-24-11 01:49 AM |
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GOP/rove convinced tens of millions by radio that dems/acorn/ illegals are stealing |
certainot |
Nov-24-11 05:26 PM |
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Yeah, it's almost like they're complicit |
tavalon |
Nov-24-11 07:53 AM |
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Actually, |
chervilant |
Nov-24-11 11:29 AM |
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It did not become obvious to me until about a year or two ago. Old habits die hard, I guess. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 04:35 AM |
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Well, |
chervilant |
Nov-25-11 10:27 AM |
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I thought they would too. |
tblue |
Nov-24-11 12:04 PM |
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the excuse they use |
oldhippydude |
Nov-24-11 04:21 PM |
#134 |
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Very lame. That does not explain why they did not pass laws while they controlled Congress. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 04:04 AM |
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Self delete. Dupe. |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:13 PM |
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UPDATE: Hand-count finds ORIGINAL tally correct... |
reACTIONary |
Nov-24-11 05:53 PM |
#139 |
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Voting and demanding clean elections go hand in hand |
bhikkhu |
Nov-23-11 07:35 PM |
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We have independent pollsters making their counts, too -- which is the way |
pnwmom |
Nov-23-11 07:41 PM |
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A truly "independent" pollster in the Uniuted States? Who might that be? |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:20 PM |
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Not so far |
quakerboy |
Nov-24-11 01:42 AM |
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Just. wow. we need 2 shine some bright sunlight on this dank disihonesty & corruption.~nt |
99th_Monkey |
Nov-24-11 02:43 AM |
#86 |
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It's not like a big secret our elections have been hacked into tiny pieces by 1%'s wood-chipper ~nt |
99th_Monkey |
Nov-24-11 02:45 AM |
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That is what is so telling. |
dotymed |
Nov-24-11 08:55 AM |
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Take note ..this is how Obama will lose in 2012 |
INdemo |
Nov-23-11 06:44 PM |
#2 |
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If that happens, I predict you will see an |
Cleita |
Nov-23-11 08:17 PM |
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It will be too late by then. They will call out the militarized troops. |
glinda |
Nov-23-11 11:46 PM |
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K & R! |
lonestarnot |
Nov-24-11 09:27 AM |
#108 |
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I would be beyond stunned if Obama lost in 2012. |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:17 PM |
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Would you be stunned enough to join us in the streets? |
tavalon |
Nov-24-11 07:55 AM |
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I would be happy to be in the street. Who is "us" though? Precious few out there with OWS. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 04:41 AM |
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Me too. |
dotymed |
Nov-24-11 09:00 AM |
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Unless the PTB decide otherwise. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-24-11 09:51 AM |
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Karl Rove's "the math" at work for America |
Blue Owl |
Nov-23-11 06:45 PM |
#3 |
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Did Rove control Congress between January 2007 and January 2011? |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:19 PM |
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Apparently, |
tavalon |
Nov-24-11 07:56 AM |
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no, but 1000 invisible radio stations still sell the notion dems/illegals/acorn steal elections. and |
certainot |
Nov-24-11 05:29 PM |
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WTF? ..... "30% of voters next year will be voting on unverifiable touch-screen machines"? |
red dog 1 |
Nov-23-11 07:08 PM |
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Nov-24-11 11:00 AM |
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Dupe. |
GoCubsGo |
Nov-24-11 11:00 AM |
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These machines are what we need to be protesting. |
drm604 |
Nov-23-11 07:37 PM |
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They are ONE thing we need to be protesting. |
stillwaiting |
Nov-23-11 08:23 PM |
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Boston went to paper ballots for the 2004 Presidential, but then went to a different form of |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:26 PM |
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"Both Parties loves them some electronics in voting"???......I don't think so! |
red dog 1 |
Nov-23-11 11:29 PM |
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Hon, I'm afraid you need to look into some history. Seriously. |
snot |
Nov-24-11 01:27 AM |
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Kerry won Ohio in 2008 |
Chipper Chat |
Nov-24-11 04:15 PM |
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If the elections in 2000 and 2004 were in fact stolen from Democrats by Republicans, |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:00 AM |
#157 |
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What? An election fraud dungeon??? Why? |
cui bono |
Nov-24-11 06:57 PM |
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Sorry; I don't think it was actually meant as a dungeon, but . . . |
snot |
Nov-24-11 07:59 PM |
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Nov-24-11 11:54 PM |
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Which federal laws were enacted? And if you are relying on Bradblog, please |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:04 AM |
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Self delete. Dupe |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:04 AM |
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"HON", .I went to DU Election Reform forum....Here's what I found ..(& it's Frightening!) |
red dog 1 |
Nov-25-11 05:46 PM |
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HON........you're right! |
red dog 1 |
Nov-26-11 09:25 PM |
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""Both Parties loves them some electronics in voting"???......I don't think so!" / I do. |
BradBlog |
Nov-24-11 02:19 AM |
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Indeed |
slay |
Nov-24-11 02:28 AM |
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Name removed |
Nov-25-11 01:00 AM |
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See post #120 re the Help America Vote Act of 2002. |
patrice |
Nov-24-11 11:21 AM |
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Does post # 120 show that Democrats want voting machines without a paper ballot recount option? |
red dog 1 |
Nov-25-11 01:08 AM |
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Nov-25-11 01:12 AM |
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"show"? "prove"???? Bwaa, ha, ha etc. ... don't know where you're trying to go with that. The post |
patrice |
Nov-25-11 09:59 AM |
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Re: how HAVA was written, by Whom, & How it was implemented & by Whom. |
red dog 1 |
Nov-25-11 03:01 PM |
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Anything at all to support your assumption? |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 04:56 AM |
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Nope! ...I stand corrected & now see that Obama doesn't care about voting machine fraud |
red dog 1 |
Nov-25-11 03:08 PM |
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Obama? I referred you to my posts about Congress and Boston. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 08:57 PM |
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You're Right!..."This is way bigger than Obama!" |
red dog 1 |
Nov-26-11 04:04 PM |
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Plus one! nt |
Enthusiast |
Nov-24-11 03:51 AM |
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You want someone else to protest? |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:23 PM |
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Someone else? |
drm604 |
Nov-23-11 08:37 PM |
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Someone other than yourself.. |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:46 PM |
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Why shouldn't I? |
drm604 |
Nov-23-11 09:06 PM |
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To clarify... Why shouldn't I protest? |
drm604 |
Nov-23-11 10:39 PM |
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I think the point was |
some guy |
Nov-24-11 01:21 AM |
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And my subject line said |
drm604 |
Nov-24-11 01:24 AM |
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The list s long |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-23-11 08:57 PM |
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We need to constitutionally ban electronic voting - it's getting dangerous. |
Initech |
Nov-23-11 07:39 PM |
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We already passed "dangerous" in 2000 |
Politicalboi |
Nov-23-11 07:46 PM |
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Good luck with that. (Please see replies 15 and 25.) |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:32 PM |
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We need a movement and petitions and actions NOW. |
glinda |
Nov-23-11 11:47 PM |
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Paper ballots. Hand counted. In public. Nothing less. n/t |
Scuba |
Nov-23-11 07:46 PM |
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Amen to that. n/t |
Paka |
Nov-23-11 07:53 PM |
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YES!!! On a national PATRIOTIC HOLIDAY for voting, begins on Friday and ends the following Tuesday. |
patrice |
Nov-23-11 08:08 PM |
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Great idea. n/t |
Scuba |
Nov-23-11 08:13 PM |
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Yeah, if we can get 4 days off for religious holidays, why not for a holiday for saving our ass by |
patrice |
Nov-23-11 08:29 PM |
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Saving our ass by voting on a Diebold machine? |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:43 PM |
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No. See post #10 & its sub-thread. nt |
patrice |
Nov-23-11 08:51 PM |
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Paper ballots, counted in public, by hand is simply not going to happen, though. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 04:16 AM |
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Patrice, I remember getting my first SS card. I was 12. |
dotymed |
Nov-24-11 01:09 PM |
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I'm with you, patrice. |
Enthusiast |
Nov-24-11 03:53 AM |
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How hopeful |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:48 PM |
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But that would be FAIR! Can't have that in this plutocracy. nt |
valerief |
Nov-23-11 08:49 PM |
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It's the ONLY way! n/t |
bengalherder |
Nov-23-11 08:52 PM |
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+1 n/t |
wakemewhenitsover |
Nov-23-11 10:22 PM |
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Yes |
glinda |
Nov-23-11 11:47 PM |
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Nothing less, nothing more. |
tavalon |
Nov-24-11 07:59 AM |
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I think distrust of our elections keeps ~ 25% of eligible voter home. n/t |
Scuba |
Nov-24-11 08:15 AM |
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Paper ballots. Hand counted. In public. Nothing less.... AMEN! |
bvar22 |
Nov-24-11 12:17 PM |
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With international monitoring! n/t |
cui bono |
Nov-24-11 06:59 PM |
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No fuckin wonder we're in debt...we can't count. |
russspeakeasy |
Nov-23-11 08:17 PM |
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Well, our education system is not the best, but we can count, if we really want to. |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:51 PM |
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Beware voter suppression psychology |
L. Coyote |
Nov-23-11 08:23 PM |
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....or who they vote for turns out to be a dipfuck! |
pocoloco |
Nov-23-11 08:30 PM |
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What a bizarre reaction to posts about election fraud by voting machine. |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:34 PM |
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Ahhhh... Ummmm.... |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-23-11 08:30 PM |
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SOMEWHERE along the way` |
Plucketeer |
Nov-23-11 08:45 PM |
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You don't sound ignorant. You sound trusting. |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:55 PM |
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The name 'Diebold' comes to mind. |
bengalherder |
Nov-23-11 09:00 PM |
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Thanks |
Plucketeer |
Nov-23-11 09:20 PM |
#52 |
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Thank YOU! |
bengalherder |
Nov-24-11 10:55 AM |
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ATM bank machines are monitored 24/7 |
disndat |
Nov-24-11 11:51 AM |
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Not only are they not trustworthy... |
Xtraneous |
Nov-23-11 09:07 PM |
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Wow your town w/the lever machines |
PotatoChip |
Nov-24-11 07:10 AM |
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Because meat machines are even worse. |
boppers |
Nov-23-11 11:05 PM |
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Figures don't lie, but liers will figure. The machine is only as trust worthy as the programer. NT |
Devil_Fish |
Nov-24-11 12:11 AM |
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"The machine is only as trust worthy as the programer." |
boppers |
Nov-24-11 12:24 AM |
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liars |
aquart |
Nov-24-11 06:40 AM |
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Look at the geneology of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 i.e. how it was written -AND- implemented |
patrice |
Nov-24-11 11:18 AM |
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And this will be all over the MSM. NOT. This vote flipping is now the norm and the ruling class's |
valerief |
Nov-23-11 08:47 PM |
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+1. While I think Jay Z is scum for not thinking about sharing profits with the OWS movement, |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:58 PM |
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Huh. |
Dj13Francis |
Nov-23-11 08:49 PM |
#37 |
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As always, thanks, Bradblog. |
No Elephants |
Nov-23-11 08:59 PM |
#46 |
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There is no citizen voting process in America. It's all a sham. I wish an army |
valerief |
Nov-23-11 09:02 PM |
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It's hopeless when the Dems are too weak to do or say anything even when the evidence |
qb |
Nov-23-11 09:04 PM |
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you've got to wonder if "weak" is the right word. I think it |
bbgrunt |
Nov-24-11 10:34 AM |
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Assuming they say nothing only because they are weak is, well, an assumption. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:12 AM |
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Isn't just too odd that Diebold machines never ever make a mistake |
ooglymoogly |
Nov-23-11 09:40 PM |
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Hi ooglymoogly. |
truedelphi |
Nov-27-11 02:46 PM |
#181 |
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do you think Al Gore would be thinner now if he was elected president? |
IamK |
Nov-23-11 10:02 PM |
#54 |
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Is that an anti-Gore slam or a fat joke, or both? |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:17 AM |
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we use pencil and paper in Canada |
riverbendviewgal |
Nov-23-11 10:16 PM |
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No problem, just stop using those pesky paper ballots that are fed into these and the plm is solved! |
AllyCat |
Nov-23-11 11:04 PM |
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Can't tell if you're being snarky, or if you're misinformed... |
BradBlog |
Nov-24-11 02:33 AM |
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Sorry for the confusion. I am completely in favor of hand counts on paper, in public |
AllyCat |
Nov-25-11 12:34 AM |
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Every American voter should be required to watch that video! ... Recommended |
Bozita |
Nov-23-11 11:11 PM |
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As always, thanks to bradblog for staying on top of this. REC. nt |
bertman |
Nov-23-11 11:23 PM |
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+a billion. Thanks, Brad, for your awesome service to all of us. |
Zorra |
Nov-24-11 12:32 AM |
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Thanks backatcha, Zorra. And if I had a staff, I know they'd thank you too! :-) |
BradBlog |
Nov-24-11 02:34 AM |
#84 |
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kr |
Norrin Radd |
Nov-24-11 12:21 AM |
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K&R'd. I can't believe we're acquiescing in the use of these machines. |
snot |
Nov-24-11 01:12 AM |
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That's because we were browbeaten into not caring by the fucking trolls |
Occulus |
Nov-24-11 09:54 AM |
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Not to be a Luddite or anything... |
markpkessinger |
Nov-24-11 01:56 AM |
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Totally agree. Though our esteemable M$M always has its |
truedelphi |
Nov-24-11 03:42 AM |
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Because a lying human is harder to fix than a broken metal machine. |
boppers |
Nov-24-11 04:39 AM |
#92 |
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If ONLY the problem were a matter of "broken" machines... |
markpkessinger |
Nov-24-11 11:53 AM |
#125 |
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"two from each party" |
boppers |
Nov-25-11 08:42 PM |
#173 |
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Nonsense. Those machines are not broken. If you believe that |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:27 AM |
#163 |
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During the Bush years, the FBI, which was the agency one |
truedelphi |
Nov-27-11 02:49 PM |
#182 |
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Agreed!!!!!!!!!!! Time should be less, waaaaaaaaaaaaay less, valuable than the unity of our nation. |
patrice |
Nov-24-11 11:29 AM |
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Good question, Mark. What do you suppose the answer is? |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:21 AM |
#162 |
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Diebold Republican Electing Machinez |
AndyTiedye |
Nov-24-11 02:01 AM |
#79 |
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BradBlog all over that shit as usual! Huge K&R! Andy Stephenson would be proud! |
slay |
Nov-24-11 02:24 AM |
#81 |
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Thanks, Slay -- and I miss Andy...and John Gideon...every day! :-( |
BradBlog |
Nov-24-11 02:36 AM |
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Can you say Banana Republic? |
Enthusiast |
Nov-24-11 03:48 AM |
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If the machines counting the robber barons' money were so inaccurate |
malaise |
Nov-24-11 06:08 AM |
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This is the stuff that scares me... |
AsahinaKimi |
Nov-24-11 06:25 AM |
#94 |
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while im scared of these damn machines |
oldhippydude |
Nov-24-11 01:38 PM |
#132 |
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No reason to assume it was only once. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:29 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-24-11 06:40 AM |
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Can Diebold be Charged with Treason? |
perdita9 |
Nov-24-11 07:14 AM |
#98 |
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it should be treated that way... RICO |
fascisthunter |
Nov-24-11 09:53 AM |
#112 |
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When you have all the money, you need supreme control. |
mother earth |
Nov-24-11 07:15 AM |
#99 |
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My goodness, that's a surprise! Not. |
tavalon |
Nov-24-11 07:51 AM |
#100 |
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Worse. They can; no government (federal, state, county, city, town) requires them to. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:31 AM |
#165 |
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As long as we don't have 100% verifiable voting, we have no democracy... |
polichick |
Nov-24-11 09:42 AM |
#109 |
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the GOP and their Machines |
fascisthunter |
Nov-24-11 09:52 AM |
#111 |
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All those people in uniform |
The Wizard |
Nov-24-11 10:40 AM |
#116 |
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Change We Can Believe In - Voting. |
colsohlibgal |
Nov-24-11 12:22 PM |
#128 |
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How can these jackasses manage to sell machines that don't have public domain software review? |
jimlup |
Nov-24-11 12:58 PM |
#129 |
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It's a shame you opposed the Holt bill. Maybe our elections would be more secure than they now are. |
Fly by night |
Nov-24-11 01:15 PM |
#131 |
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Not a shame at all. Your elections would have been worse. |
BradBlog |
Nov-25-11 10:34 PM |
#175 |
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K & R |
red dog 1 |
Nov-26-11 06:09 PM |
#177 |
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deposited a check into an ATM the other day....got a receipt |
Gin |
Nov-24-11 04:25 PM |
#135 |
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the thieves will use local RW radio to generate excuses and to somehow (always) blame dems |
certainot |
Nov-24-11 05:17 PM |
#136 |
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It's just a coincidence system errors always favor the Republicans |
Life Long Dem |
Nov-24-11 05:57 PM |
#140 |
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Which one is the Republican in this case? It looks like machine error to me |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-25-11 04:47 AM |
#155 |
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If they always favor Republicans, wouldn't you expect Democrats to do something about that? |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:36 AM |
#166 |
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Okay, if a group of people want hand counts in public, how do we go about changing what is? |
AllyCat |
Nov-25-11 12:36 AM |
#146 |
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You might start with your city hall or town hall. Also, check you state laws to see |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-11 05:42 AM |
#167 |
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So basically this story amounted to nothing... |
Imajika |
Nov-26-11 06:12 PM |
#178 |
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Well, no... |
BradBlog |
Nov-28-11 09:29 PM |
#183 |
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Paper Ballots? |
red dog 1 |
Nov-26-11 11:24 PM |
#180 |
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lemme guess 181818? |
lonestarnot |
Nov-28-11 09:56 PM |
#184 |
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