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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 06:56 AM
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14. Granted, Senior Citizens do vote heavily;
And are the most counted on to vote in every election. However, i can see them going along with this proposal if the propaganda is preached to them in ways that tell them that Social Security is under attack from under funding and will run out of money-soon or before they will die. As for their worry about their children's welfare, I see this as a double win for the Republican plan, again, if the propaganda is pitched the right way toward Social Security will be broke and 'market forces' will and must triumph in order that their children's retirement will be secure.

The terrible danger in market forces is that the Republicans will also put into the bill that it is up to the consumer to budget their money and that the government will have no power to regulate the monies coming out of future paychecks. That means each and every wage earner must 'make choices' as to what, if any, they invest toward their future retirement. The OPer made the point of bringing up the fact that so many 99%ers live paycheck to paycheck. They can not be expected to sock away say 5% of each week's paycheck. So many people will go on the premise that their situation will only get better-next year. It is then they will expect to be able to start saving. But next year never comes as we know. Future generations of seniors will need to live with their children in order to survive, if they live long enough having no health insurance and dying.

That future is bleak with that future and the 99%ers need to know this and take action in order to stop the Republicans dismantling the Social Net that is so crucial for so many people.
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  - Also in his plan:  Adenoid_Hynkel   Nov-21-11 05:34 AM   #1 
  - "At last, you smelly American proles will be put in your place. Smirk." - Republicon 1%ers  SpiralHawk   Nov-21-11 05:37 AM   #3 
     - Shoulda dressed up the other end of that dog.  Brigid   Nov-21-11 02:37 PM   #38 
  - NH Invented the Alternative: Live Free or Die  Demeter   Nov-21-11 05:36 AM   #2 
  - NH is a Granite State of Mind  SpiralHawk   Nov-21-11 05:46 AM   #8 
  - The alternative: poverty, low wages, early death.  sofa king   Nov-21-11 05:42 AM   #4 
  - Tthe meanest clown in the clown car is now Tied with the changingest clown.  No Elephants   Nov-21-11 05:43 AM   #5 
  - I just unveiled a far better Alternative than NewtCase Ganggrinch  Hubert Flottz   Nov-21-11 05:44 AM   #6 
  - BTW, here's a fun retro '90s game:  Adenoid_Hynkel   Nov-21-11 05:45 AM   #7 
  - Boomers are starting to collect S.S. I don't see them going along with this.  jerseyjack   Nov-21-11 06:06 AM   #9 
  - Granted, Senior Citizens do vote heavily;  greiner3   Nov-21-11 06:56 AM   #14 
  - I'll bet the plan goes something like this: Get rich or you can starve and freeze when you're old.  bulloney   Nov-21-11 06:12 AM   #10 
  - Because, of course, we know that the average wage earner...  CBHagman   Nov-21-11 06:19 AM   #11 
  - Bush failed to sell it even during a stock market boom.  subterranean   Nov-21-11 10:10 AM   #25 
  - The Social Security Trustfund  Turbineguy   Nov-21-11 06:47 AM   #12 
  - And he would campaign on all this as the nominee in the GE  Gman   Nov-21-11 06:54 AM   #13 
  - Private accounts redux  quaker bill   Nov-21-11 07:09 AM   #15 
  - It involves lots of cardboard signs and tin cups  izquierdista   Nov-21-11 07:14 AM   #16 
  - Wow, is he going to franchise Poor Farms and Poor Houses?  Joe Bacon   Nov-21-11 07:35 AM   #17 
  - I wish Grandma Bacon were around too.  CBHagman   Nov-21-11 02:33 PM   #37 
  - let me guess: corporate run SS for profit. nt  Javaman   Nov-21-11 07:37 AM   #18 
  - It's his plan to employ the divorce lawyers.  urgk   Nov-21-11 08:13 AM   #19 
  - We have alternatives already  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Nov-21-11 08:26 AM   #20 
  - If I were one of these young people I'd wonder WHY  EC   Nov-21-11 09:38 AM   #21 
  - See, this is why I'm an atheist: no god would allow a shitty person  plumbob   Nov-21-11 09:42 AM   #22 
  - Another losing idea from the conservative un-think tanks  Auggie   Nov-21-11 09:43 AM   #23 
  - piece of shit plan, but...  Locrian   Nov-21-11 09:52 AM   #24 
  - Is he going on a Hunger Strike? n/t  Hugin   Nov-21-11 10:24 AM   #26 
  - i`m sure my kids are going to buy this bullshit  madrchsod   Nov-21-11 10:35 AM   #27 
  - Gingrich wants to steal more money.  sarcasmo   Nov-21-11 10:37 AM   #28 
  - The old Wall Street Social Insecurity scam! Typical Newt. nt  valerief   Nov-21-11 10:41 AM   #29 
  - NEW!  They_Live   Nov-21-11 10:59 AM   #30 
  - You think young people will buy this BS?  LongTomH   Nov-21-11 11:09 AM   #31 
  - I simply want an alternative to Newty!  SoapBox   Nov-21-11 11:23 AM   #32 
  - The "Newt" is losing it. nt  ladjf   Nov-21-11 12:31 PM   #33 
  - TRANSLATION: The Banksters want your SS money.  Odin2005   Nov-21-11 12:38 PM   #34 
  - George Carlin was right about everything.  Kingofalldems   Nov-21-11 12:43 PM   #35 
  - Exclusive pictures  KamaAina   Nov-21-11 02:02 PM   #36 
  - Republicans want to pay you LESS and have you save MORE? That sounds eerily like  yurbud   Nov-21-11 02:37 PM   #39 
  - translation: trust Wall Street--what could go wrong?  yurbud   Nov-21-11 02:38 PM   #40 
  - Newt = PT Barnum as psychopath  Tom Ripley   Nov-21-11 03:49 PM   #41 
  - Because 401(k)s have worked so well  KamaAina   Nov-21-11 04:47 PM   #42 
  - That's what I was going to say.  CBHagman   Nov-26-11 08:43 PM   #47 
  - The Gingrich alternative to Social Security, in a nutshell  jmowreader   Nov-26-11 08:11 PM   #43 
  - " enjoy prosperous retirements beyond their most optimistic expectations,..."  unkachuck   Nov-26-11 08:33 PM   #44 
  - Ooooo, how exciting. I can hardly wait. ZZZzzzzzzz  No Elephants   Nov-26-11 08:35 PM   #45 
  - And that idea was SO popular during the Bush regime  Canuckistanian   Nov-26-11 08:35 PM   #46 

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