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Sun Nov-20-11 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 24. What the hell? Criticizing Gore's fantasy presidency a pretty obsessive thing to do. |
| -Ron Paul: Flawed policies helped lead to 9/11 |
alp227 |
Nov-20-11 07:23 PM |
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He was right. |
tabatha |
Nov-20-11 07:26 PM |
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Agreed - and the sooner people get that, the better for all of us. |
polichick |
Nov-20-11 07:30 PM |
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Half right. |
baldguy |
Nov-20-11 07:38 PM |
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Super-duper DITTO! |
SoapBox |
Nov-20-11 08:39 PM |
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No, Democrats helped provoke 9-11 also. |
cpwm17 |
Nov-20-11 10:03 PM |
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But the Clinton Admin had a counter-terrorism infrastructure in place when they left |
baldguy |
Nov-20-11 10:18 PM |
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I'm not sure if the US intelligence services would have done a proper job preventing 9-11 under Gore |
cpwm17 |
Nov-20-11 10:48 PM |
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That's the Bush Regime's spin talking. |
baldguy |
Nov-20-11 10:56 PM |
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What the hell? Criticizing Gore's fantasy presidency a pretty obsessive thing to do. |
Kablooie |
Nov-20-11 11:57 PM |
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So is attributing only good things to Gore's fantasy Presidency. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:30 AM |
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So it might have been an attempt, instead of a success? |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 12:04 AM |
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Yes, 911 would have taken place if Gore had been elected. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:23 AM |
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When you know of a threat, there's a big difference between looking for it & NOT looking for it. |
baldguy |
Nov-21-11 06:54 AM |
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You are arguing about imaginary events that are not supported by anything that happened during |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 07:29 AM |
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You're changing the topic. |
some guy |
Nov-21-11 04:10 AM |
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Good point. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:30 AM |
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Properly assessing & responding to foreign threats isn't part of "foreign policy" ? |
baldguy |
Nov-21-11 07:12 AM |
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Debatable whether "homeland security" is domestic policy or foreign policy; however, |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 07:37 AM |
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Please indicate where Paul mentioned Israel. |
baldguy |
Nov-21-11 07:44 AM |
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Does counter-terrorism infrastructure |
some guy |
Nov-21-11 01:58 PM |
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And if we're trying to get a foreign country to arrest & extradite a terrorist? |
baldguy |
Nov-21-11 03:04 PM |
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Those would both |
some guy |
Nov-21-11 07:36 PM |
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Then when we're discussing any counter-terrorism methods in foreign lands |
baldguy |
Nov-21-11 08:51 PM |
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richard clarke stated that he informed little boot's administration |
newspeak |
Nov-22-11 09:54 AM |
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Republican greed led to 9/11 |
Slit Skirt |
Nov-20-11 11:06 PM |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:32 AM |
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IIRC, Clinton put that fucking airbase in Saudi Arabia. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 12:01 AM |
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Don't forget Reagan |
Ter |
Nov-21-11 12:33 AM |
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Too true, |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 12:47 AM |
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Um, not started. Please see Reply 26. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:33 AM |
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You are correct |
Ter |
Nov-21-11 03:32 AM |
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You need to go further back than that - to before 1898, anyway |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-21-11 03:53 AM |
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1803 |
some guy |
Nov-21-11 04:15 AM |
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The thread is about Israel, though. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:36 AM |
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Thank you for restricting what we are allowed to talk about on DU |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-21-11 07:09 AM |
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How do I restrict what anyone says on DU? |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 07:14 AM |
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Al Qaeda attacked us over Iraq and bases in Saudi Arabia. Not Israel. n/t |
ieoeja |
Nov-22-11 09:40 AM |
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I referred you to a post mentioning the 1950s, not 1912. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:34 AM |
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And Saudi Arabia donated to their Presidential libraries and probably, one way or another, |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:37 AM |
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Reminds me of a thing my last chemistry teacher used to say |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 02:26 AM |
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Yep. When one dirty hand washes another, nothing gets clean. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 07:39 AM |
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The fundamental policy that began this mess was the Sykes–Picot Accord. |
LanternWaste |
Nov-21-11 02:22 PM |
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Democrats are equal to blame |
Ter |
Nov-21-11 12:33 AM |
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No, U.S. policies. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:16 AM |
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I dislike him for his social plans but on this I agree. We were playing |
jwirr |
Nov-20-11 08:08 PM |
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The replies to Post #5 should answer your question, no matter which side of the coin you favor. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:35 AM |
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no one listened to what bin laden was actually saying |
madrchsod |
Nov-20-11 07:33 PM |
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*Raises hand and waves it frantically, while saying "ooo, ooo, ooo"* |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:39 AM |
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W Bush Nails it when he said ..."watch my drive" ....the man don't care for America... |
opihimoimoi |
Nov-20-11 07:34 PM |
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Just think if Bush had done the right thing |
lefthandedlefty |
Nov-20-11 07:46 PM |
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Hubristic assholes make up excuses for their actions |
opihimoimoi |
Nov-20-11 07:50 PM |
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Here was one failed policy... |
SoapBox |
Nov-20-11 08:05 PM |
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They weren't allowed as carry on. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 12:25 AM |
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I was allowed on international flights in the 1990s with ice axes in carry-on baggage |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-21-11 03:59 AM |
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yeah, well, I still question the boxcutter argument |
newspeak |
Nov-22-11 10:39 AM |
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And now we have another generation, Rand Paul, also teat sucking. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:46 AM |
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Well duh! |
waronxmas |
Nov-20-11 08:26 PM |
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I have to respect Paul for sticking to his convictions and being unafraid to air his beliefs |
Skip Intro |
Nov-20-11 08:35 PM |
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His beliefs include ending Medicare, Medicaid, & Social Security. |
red dog 1 |
Nov-20-11 08:54 PM |
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So, put him in as the Secretary of Defense. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 12:48 AM |
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The Secretary of Defense decides those things? Who knew? |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:49 AM |
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True. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 02:09 AM |
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Maybe, but NOT Ron Paul or any other Libertarian. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:00 AM |
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Yeah, his domestic policy would take us back to the industrial revolution |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-21-11 08:09 AM |
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+1 Sing it, red dog! |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:51 AM |
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Integrity, my ass. He and his son have no trouble living off government. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:47 AM |
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A man who speaks the truth is ineligible for the Republican candidacy by default. |
Little Tich |
Nov-20-11 08:37 PM |
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Ron Paul is NOT a man who speaks the truth, but thanks anyway, LIttle Tich. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:53 AM |
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Exactly |
freshstart |
Nov-21-11 06:59 AM |
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The only Republican candidate speaking the truth is Jon Huntsman. |
red dog 1 |
Nov-21-11 12:55 PM |
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al-Qaeda attacked New Zealand, too. |
provis99 |
Nov-20-11 08:59 PM |
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Indonesia? London? But what was the reason for the attacks? |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 01:57 AM |
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Al-qaeda did not attack London |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 04:04 AM |
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I would not go that far. But how about answering the question or addressing the actual point? |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:15 AM |
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I already said above I don't know anything about an alqaeda attack on New Zealand. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 06:27 AM |
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Do you know of any Al Qaeeda attack that was unrelated to U.S. policies? |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 07:07 AM |
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It seems you are assigning every terror attack in the past decade to Alqaeda. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 07:18 AM |
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Bullshit. First, as you imply, the organization responsible for the Bali bombing |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 07:52 AM |
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Put me on ignore then. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 02:15 PM |
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The murder of Masood. We weren't supporting either side (though we should have been). n/t |
ieoeja |
Nov-22-11 09:45 AM |
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Can you give me any information on the Alqaeda attack on New Zealand? |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 02:28 PM |
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I must be out of it. When did Al qaeda attack New Zealand? |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 03:01 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-20-11 09:49 PM |
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does ANYONE seriously believe that if the U.S.did not have its military might positioned all over |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-20-11 10:02 PM |
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Oh, yeah. Ron Paul is a fucking king and Rand is a prince. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 02:03 AM |
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Interviewer Bob Schiefer looked mighty pissed off. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-20-11 10:31 PM |
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Be careful what you say Ron.....the reich wing don't want to hear that shit. |
Hulk |
Nov-21-11 12:43 AM |
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Yup. There were some worried comments on the Sunday shows |
woo me with science |
Nov-21-11 01:50 AM |
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If he starts winning, he's better practice ducking, too. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:08 AM |
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Only right wing U.S. policies favor Israel? |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 02:11 AM |
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I dislike most of what he says |
loyalsister |
Nov-22-11 12:31 AM |
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Just like all the other politicians, no balls |
jakeXT |
Nov-21-11 02:04 AM |
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Ron Paul's picture is in Bartlett's Quotations, right next to the saying, |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 02:14 AM |
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He may be a bonehead on domestic policy, but he makes perfect sense on foreign policy. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 04:07 AM |
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First, we need not look at him or any other Libertarian any further |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:04 AM |
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Why do you say his foreign policy approach makes no sense? |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 06:29 AM |
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The post to which you are replying answered your new question. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 06:59 AM |
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From a financial perspective, his foreign policy approach is the only thing that can save the US. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 07:21 AM |
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There are plenty of anti war people who don't have the rest of Paul's shit. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 07:57 AM |
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The problem is that they are not running for President. nt |
woo me with science |
Nov-21-11 09:14 PM |
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Why do you say his foreign policy approach makes no sense? |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-21-11 02:23 PM |
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People on DU are clear that they don't agree with Ron Paul on most issues |
cpwm17 |
Nov-21-11 08:09 AM |
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+1000 |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-22-11 12:46 AM |
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Big Fucking Deal. |
Zorra |
Nov-21-11 07:56 AM |
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Great thread to bookmark if you like to know more about your fellow DUers. |
No Elephants |
Nov-21-11 08:06 AM |
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That's for sure. It's the neocon influence. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-22-11 01:30 AM |
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Watching that "journalist's" head explode during the interview was entertaining. |
krabigirl |
Nov-21-11 11:32 AM |
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Foreign policy was at fault -- we also had an "Operation Ignore" re the intelligence ... but MIHOP.. |
defendandprotect |
Nov-21-11 12:17 PM |
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Ron Paul would not get his way on SS and medicare, but |
populist3 |
Nov-24-11 08:57 PM |
#109 |