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Sun Nov-20-11 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
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Everyone always wants to hold to the "one bad apple" theory. What leads you to believe that rank and file cops are not dangerous. They are virtually all Authoritarians or Authoritarian followers.
I think that it is a very rare cop who, under it all, doesn't want to hurt someone.
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| -Officers in pepper spray incident put on leave (UC Davis) |
CreekDog |
Nov-20-11 01:04 PM |
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From the article... |
Webster Green |
Nov-20-11 01:13 PM |
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Pepper spray could cause a fatal asthma attack. The risk is higher than |
pnwmom |
Nov-20-11 01:17 PM |
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I've thought of that. I have asthma. And that pepper spray looks |
Maraya1969 |
Nov-20-11 11:03 PM |
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so blinding them and then lifting them is less harmful than just lifting them? |
notadmblnd |
Nov-20-11 01:33 PM |
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Less harmful to the cops, obviously. Killing them would reduce the risk further, presumably. |
yardwork |
Nov-20-11 01:35 PM |
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Ah, yes, the 'I felt threatened' defense. Touchy feely guys on the force. |
freshwest |
Nov-20-11 03:23 PM |
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So the police are trained to do this. "Curling into a ball" warrants baton strikes? |
yardwork |
Nov-20-11 01:34 PM |
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IMO probably in many cases also the wrong people are being trained to be cops in the first place. nt |
RKP5637 |
Nov-20-11 06:11 PM |
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Bingo! |
tavalon |
Nov-21-11 10:47 AM |
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This seems more like standard procedure: |
high density |
Nov-20-11 02:06 PM |
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Impunity leads to atrocity, and using pepper spray as a |
saorsa |
Nov-20-11 02:10 PM |
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Yes,yes,yes...all you said! Welcome to DU! nt |
snappyturtle |
Nov-20-11 05:33 PM |
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"Obscene act of violence" -- agree 100% |
klook |
Nov-20-11 09:24 PM |
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Is that the name of the "officer" who pepper sprayed these peaceful protesters? |
tavalon |
Nov-21-11 10:49 AM |
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These sadists/criminals don't get into police work by accident .... often they are |
defendandprotect |
Nov-21-11 12:31 PM |
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Abuse of human rights may be standard operating procedure, but so was killing Jews |
L. Coyote |
Nov-20-11 02:42 PM |
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That excuse is BS! Officer Pike didn't care if he hurt those students... |
truth2power |
Nov-20-11 05:22 PM |
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Something tells me the people of Baltimore . . . |
MrModerate |
Nov-20-11 08:33 PM |
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So protecting ones self by curling up into a ball is an active form of resistance... |
Javaman |
Nov-21-11 08:42 AM |
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Kelly is encouraging the world of delusion they're all living -- ignoring Constitutional rights ... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-21-11 12:56 PM |
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Put on leave?? FIRE THE PSYCHOTIC FUCKERS!! nt |
Lorien |
Nov-20-11 01:15 PM |
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Lock him in a prison cell |
The Wizard |
Nov-20-11 06:34 PM |
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Yeah, vacation hardly seems like a punishment unless |
Ed Suspicious |
Nov-20-11 07:24 PM |
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+1000 |
geardaddy |
Nov-21-11 12:36 PM |
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Yes, I think police work (and military work) has a way |
DLnyc |
Nov-20-11 01:16 PM |
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I am a middle aged GWM as is my partner. |
jhrobbins |
Nov-20-11 05:11 PM |
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Yeah, I certainly hear that. |
DLnyc |
Nov-20-11 07:04 PM |
#49 |
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A question. |
Fokker Trip |
Nov-20-11 07:51 PM |
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what leads me to believe that rank and file are less |
DLnyc |
Nov-21-11 10:20 AM |
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That cop would make a good |
asjr |
Nov-20-11 01:18 PM |
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In a way, it reminds me of pics of Gestapo attacking helpless people .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-21-11 12:58 PM |
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Sadistic bastard. On leave? FIRE his ASS NOW! |
SoapBox |
Nov-20-11 01:21 PM |
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Fire him? PLACE HIM UNDER ARREST! |
The Stranger |
Nov-22-11 11:55 AM |
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Administrative leave? |
ut oh |
Nov-20-11 01:25 PM |
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He was ordered to do this and gleefully complied |
Dont call me Shirley |
Nov-20-11 01:35 PM |
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And expects every living thing to gleefully comply with anything he says. It there a pattern here? |
freshwest |
Nov-20-11 03:26 PM |
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They should put UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi out to pasture! n/t |
MarkCharles |
Nov-20-11 01:45 PM |
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Maybe they should pepper spray her. |
emcguffie |
Nov-20-11 01:52 PM |
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Brave man that. |
jonthebru |
Nov-20-11 02:00 PM |
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It should be interesting to note |
fujiyama |
Nov-20-11 02:02 PM |
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CUE THE VONAGE THEME! |
rocktivity |
Nov-20-11 02:05 PM |
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the walk of shame for Katehi (see second video) - was awesome nt |
Locrian |
Nov-20-11 02:09 PM |
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I don't understand the focus on the Chancellor. It was the pig that blasted people with chemicals. |
The Stranger |
Nov-22-11 11:56 AM |
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That was an illegal act meant to punish. Jail time for the head goon. |
Auggie |
Nov-20-11 02:09 PM |
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Which 2? Names? |
ret5hd |
Nov-20-11 02:21 PM |
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Put on leave. How about putting |
tomg |
Nov-20-11 02:31 PM |
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coward. |
stonecutter357 |
Nov-20-11 02:54 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-20-11 02:59 PM |
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That's one pussy cop for ya. Can't function without a weapon. |
judesedit |
Nov-20-11 03:00 PM |
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That task force needs to... |
47of74 |
Nov-20-11 03:25 PM |
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No way she gets away with JUST scapegoating the cops. |
Dutchmaster |
Nov-20-11 03:56 PM |
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. . . or is removed. |
Dutchmaster |
Nov-20-11 03:56 PM |
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Who is scapegoating whom? The pig blasted the people with chemicals -- not the administrator. |
The Stranger |
Nov-22-11 11:57 AM |
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"The students had encircled the officers," |
Dutchmaster |
Nov-20-11 04:00 PM |
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Yep, armed offices in riot gear, weapons, stun guns, body armor, shields, tear gas |
RKP5637 |
Nov-20-11 06:29 PM |
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They could've just handcuffed those in the chain. |
alp227 |
Nov-20-11 04:19 PM |
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Hey, the officer is just really sorry... |
Hubert Flottz |
Nov-20-11 04:32 PM |
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Officers in pepper spray incident placed on leave |
Pharaoh |
Nov-20-11 05:28 PM |
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Old enough to know better |
MichiganVote |
Nov-20-11 05:28 PM |
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Since When Is Pepper Spray "Preferable To Simply Lifting Peaceful Protesters"? |
red dog 1 |
Nov-20-11 05:28 PM |
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Especially when they have to lift the students anyway after they spray them. |
yardwork |
Nov-20-11 05:34 PM |
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k & r |
red dog 1 |
Nov-20-11 07:47 PM |
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UC President Mark Yudof's curriculum vitae: |
Pachamama |
Nov-20-11 05:28 PM |
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"On leave" = "Administrative leave" = "Paid vacation" |
PSPS |
Nov-20-11 05:49 PM |
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Today's cops are all built like fireplugs |
azygous |
Nov-20-11 06:42 PM |
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Steroid use is rampant among law enforcement |
Fokker Trip |
Nov-20-11 07:10 PM |
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Seriously? Had to check that out and you're right. |
mojowork_n |
Nov-20-11 07:50 PM |
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Thanks for the corroboration Mojo. I should really have dug up links myself. |
Fokker Trip |
Nov-20-11 08:14 PM |
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It makes total sense. |
mojowork_n |
Nov-20-11 11:44 PM |
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Why? I thought they were surrounded, and in danger |
SomethingFishy |
Nov-20-11 06:44 PM |
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So, Why Don't Other Police Officers Step In |
DallasNE |
Nov-20-11 07:05 PM |
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Head sprayer is a Lieutenant. Probably the highest ranking officer on the scene. |
Dutchmaster |
Nov-20-11 07:25 PM |
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They don't step in because they are virtually all violent at heart. |
Fokker Trip |
Nov-20-11 08:20 PM |
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That would be uncourteous |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Nov-21-11 04:46 AM |
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Minor?????? |
DallasNE |
Nov-21-11 01:12 PM |
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Courtesy: police looking the other way when police do bad stuff |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Nov-21-11 01:35 PM |
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Officers put on leave. GOOD! Let them go out and work two minimum wage jobs... |
lib2DaBone |
Nov-20-11 07:06 PM |
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Unfortunately, this is a paid vacation to spend the holidays with their families. |
Frank Cannon |
Nov-20-11 08:19 PM |
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What the heck is this leave? They need to fire their asses. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-20-11 07:16 PM |
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I Think I See The Problem |
DallasNE |
Nov-20-11 07:21 PM |
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TWO??? How the HELL is that "two" officers? |
Tuvok Obama |
Nov-20-11 07:41 PM |
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I hate recommending such an ugly photo |
tavalon |
Nov-20-11 07:46 PM |
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This one is only slightly nicer... (well not really) |
FailureToCommunicate |
Nov-20-11 08:48 PM |
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OMG, that's good |
tavalon |
Nov-21-11 10:21 AM |
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The officer who pulled out the pepper spray was |
FailureToCommunicate |
Nov-21-11 10:35 AM |
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On leave? Arrest the bastards! nt |
valerief |
Nov-20-11 07:58 PM |
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Exactly!! |
SixthSense |
Nov-21-11 09:53 AM |
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He may be promoted to |
FailureToCommunicate |
Nov-21-11 11:26 AM |
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meanwhile the other policeman are watching him do it |
lovuian |
Nov-20-11 08:24 PM |
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It's a very bad idea to pepper-spray university students. |
Little Tich |
Nov-20-11 08:28 PM |
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Can you believe how lazy Cops are? What is this guy's salary? $60K with benefits? |
lib2DaBone |
Nov-20-11 09:35 PM |
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More like 120k before benefits! n/t |
RoccoR5955 |
Nov-20-11 10:01 PM |
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I thought that pepper spray and tasers were weapons to be used |
6000eliot |
Nov-20-11 11:51 PM |
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"I was only following orders." |
Enthusiast |
Nov-21-11 05:29 AM |
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The police don't need the people until the people have to sit on a jury or need money for police. |
RickFromMN |
Nov-21-11 06:31 AM |
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Nice little vacation |
Danse |
Nov-21-11 06:59 AM |
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SOP? Why can't it be filmed? |
Loge23 |
Nov-21-11 07:16 AM |
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Until it blows over ... |
panzerfaust |
Nov-21-11 09:14 AM |
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The cop in the upper left-hand corner tries to facepalm one guy with a camera... |
Plaid Adder |
Nov-21-11 09:40 AM |
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I love technology |
Demeter |
Nov-21-11 04:59 PM |
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The chief at UC Davis has been relived too. |
Historic NY |
Nov-21-11 09:55 AM |
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Not good enough. Fire them. They are dangerous to public safety. |
glinda |
Nov-21-11 10:22 AM |
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+1 |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-21-11 11:03 AM |
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You can't fire them. |
FreeBillClinton |
Nov-21-11 11:20 AM |
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Arrest then have them loose their jobs. |
glinda |
Nov-21-11 01:31 PM |
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They should be arrested |
FreeBillClinton |
Nov-21-11 11:19 AM |
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The Last Pepper Spray |
L. Coyote |
Nov-21-11 11:58 AM |
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Picture beats a thousand words -- again -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-21-11 12:28 PM |
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K&R + UC/DAVIS is Cheryl Welsh's home away from home-Cheryl is Mind Justice .org |
bobthedrummer |
Nov-21-11 12:36 PM |
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They should be fired! |
Odin2005 |
Nov-21-11 12:46 PM |
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John Pike |
Amaya |
Nov-21-11 12:55 PM |
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This bastard should be brought up on charges |
MissDeeds |
Nov-21-11 01:01 PM |
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Note to protesters: Bring pepper spray. |
dogfacedboy |
Nov-21-11 01:14 PM |
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FIRE the Crazy SOB!!! President of UC Davis get a BRAIN |
lovuian |
Nov-21-11 02:29 PM |
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That fucking piece of shit should be arrested right fucking now. |
The Stranger |
Nov-22-11 11:54 AM |
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