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| -Occupy Wall Street Favor Fading |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-16-11 10:03 AM |
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there were 10,000 people at Spoul Hall last night |
CountAllVotes |
Nov-16-11 10:05 AM |
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But how are voters perceiving those crowds? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-16-11 11:47 AM |
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The voters are probably hoping for a Kim Kardasian run for Prez. |
lebkuchen |
Nov-16-11 01:12 PM |
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Voters were persuaded to elect Obama in 2008, and Democratic Congresses in 2006 and 2008 |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-16-11 01:38 PM |
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Given a billion bucks and an obedient media, voters could be persuaded to almost anything. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 04:25 PM |
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Marketing strategies have become so sophisticated that the populace is... |
Islandlife |
Nov-28-11 11:57 AM |
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Don't crowds vote? |
Canuckistanian |
Nov-16-11 03:40 PM |
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Doh! Those thousands and thousands of people ARE voters. |
Matariki |
Nov-18-11 03:10 AM |
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looked up Sproul Hall on the internets, and you're right |
wordpix |
Nov-16-11 09:49 PM |
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Interesting. See also |
emulatorloo |
Nov-16-11 10:06 AM |
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Non-stop unfavorable treatment from the MSM will do that to a non-thinking public. |
NRaleighLiberal |
Nov-16-11 10:07 AM |
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We need to promote strong alternative sources of media to our friends and family. |
stillwaiting |
Nov-16-11 11:07 AM |
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Perhaps OWS should adopt less objectionable methods to garner public favor |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-16-11 11:55 AM |
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What is less objectionable than peaceful, democratic occupation? |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 12:06 PM |
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How about holding a protest, and then going home |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-16-11 01:08 PM |
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Holding protests and going home did nothing at all during the 2000s. |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-16-11 01:10 PM |
#74 |
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The trick is that you have to keep coming back |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-16-11 01:35 PM |
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They became an effective force in politics because they were BACKED by corporate DOLLARS. |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-16-11 01:45 PM |
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How would the Occupy movement be more effective if they had busses? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-17-11 07:41 AM |
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Oh, please. The Tea Party was planned since the 1980's by the Kochs and funded by them as well. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 02:56 PM |
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Because it's an occupation, not a two hour protest like the Teabaggers. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 02:54 PM |
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Amen |
No Joe |
Nov-16-11 12:01 PM |
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MSNBC is run by a Republican news organization that hired some |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 12:12 PM |
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Exactly |
mvd |
Nov-16-11 03:12 PM |
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One thing great about not watching cable tv, is never seeing tv "news." |
krabigirl |
Nov-17-11 10:41 AM |
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This is a good time to laugh back! |
Newest Reality |
Nov-16-11 10:08 AM |
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At least *THEY* won |
LeighAnn |
Nov-16-11 10:10 AM |
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Personally, I don't believe it. An attempt at misdirection perhaps? nt |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-16-11 10:12 AM |
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You know things have gone wrong... |
Imajika |
Nov-16-11 10:16 AM |
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It's a ludicrous comparison to begin with. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 12:52 PM |
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The media confuses the method with the goal |
bhikkhu |
Nov-16-11 10:18 AM |
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As well as Faux Noise spewing out shit like countless rapes and a murder ... |
Ship of Fools |
Nov-16-11 10:24 AM |
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Go back to sleep, America...your government is in control. n/t |
deutsey |
Nov-16-11 10:22 AM |
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Only 33 percent are supportive of the goals because the goals are being perceived as |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 10:22 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-16-11 10:34 AM |
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There are already enough third parties, IMO. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 12:54 PM |
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my mistake, I meant a second party /nt |
concord |
Nov-16-11 02:09 PM |
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Snap! |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 02:59 PM |
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I happen to agree with you with the added element of... |
BadtotheboneBob |
Nov-16-11 10:43 AM |
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I agree that leadership and media relations specialists are key. |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 10:57 AM |
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Media and government are trying to tar the movement with the anarchist label, but it's a lie. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 03:01 PM |
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Maybe so, maybe so... |
BadtotheboneBob |
Nov-16-11 03:52 PM |
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It has a clear, coherent message: America's plutonomy/kleptocracy is grossly unfair. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 04:16 PM |
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Wha? The occupiers have been there 24/7. The media chose to ignore them the first couple |
No Elephants |
Nov-17-11 02:38 AM |
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+1. Your ideas are excellent IMO. I hope that people from OWS read this. n/t |
totodeinhere |
Nov-16-11 11:05 AM |
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I am sometimes a bit reluctant to pop my head up on this issue. |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 11:24 AM |
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The right wing is scared of Elizabeth Warren. You can be sure that they will throw everything |
totodeinhere |
Nov-16-11 12:44 PM |
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It's already turned into Battle of the SuperPACS. |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 01:00 PM |
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Reluctance? You hide it so well. I see you on so many "occupy" threads. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 12:57 PM |
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Ah, a little travelling music for you! |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 01:04 PM |
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LOL. All I did was comment on your alleged reluctance to post on OWS |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 03:07 PM |
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And all I did was note that you constantly follow me around reminding me that |
MADem |
Nov-17-11 11:34 PM |
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Strikes me OWS has done amazingly well so far by NOT heeding outside advice. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 01:02 PM |
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Spot on. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 11:18 AM |
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Spot on. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 11:18 AM |
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I just read an article. |
PETRUS |
Nov-16-11 11:58 AM |
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Very interesting article-- "Movements wither when they don't evolve" indeed. |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 12:38 PM |
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Anyone can define a political movement any way they wish. Especially if writing is his or her day |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 03:14 PM |
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Is that comment directed at me? |
PETRUS |
Nov-16-11 04:32 PM |
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Yes, my post was a reply to your post, though, obviously, anyone else who reads the thread |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 09:34 PM |
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Actually |
MadrasT |
Nov-28-11 11:08 AM |
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Something to consider... |
Bragi |
Nov-28-11 12:41 PM |
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I stopped trusting polls |
davidthegnome |
Nov-16-11 10:22 AM |
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Polling is actually pretty accurate... |
Imajika |
Nov-16-11 10:33 AM |
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It depends upon the poll and how the results are reported. Also, polls are as much a way of |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 03:16 PM |
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They didn't sample OWS participants |
julian09 |
Nov-16-11 11:55 AM |
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Imagine the effect on the world had OWS had the same favorable media spotlights that |
zbdent |
Nov-16-11 10:24 AM |
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That wasn't possible because OWS doesn't De Facto support corporate supremacy. |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-16-11 10:46 AM |
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I don't know a single soul who thinks the tea party is "favorable." |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 10:48 AM |
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IOW, you disagree with the OP insofar as it says that the Tea Party polls favorably, but agree with |
No Elephants |
Nov-17-11 02:44 AM |
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No. |
MADem |
Nov-18-11 02:38 AM |
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fortunately, OWS isn't running for office.. |
frylock |
Nov-16-11 10:38 AM |
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Summary the status quo doesn't like #OWS. |
EFerrari |
Nov-16-11 11:00 AM |
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I admire your ability to put so much into one or two lines. Respect! |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 04:23 PM |
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Elizabeth Warren is--and Karl Rove is beating her over the head with "OWS." |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 11:00 AM |
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yes, they should just donate money to candidates and vote.. |
frylock |
Nov-16-11 11:29 AM |
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Way to NOT READ what I wrote. Pat yourself on the back, now! |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 11:55 AM |
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If EW loses this election because of continued "Let's fight with the police" OWS coverage |
frylock |
Nov-16-11 12:13 PM |
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You didn't watch the video, OBVIOUSLY. |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 12:18 PM |
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I get to see that fucking thing ten to twenty times a day on TV |
golddigger |
Nov-16-11 12:22 PM |
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You too? |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 12:31 PM |
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it's encumbant upon warren to distance herself from that message.. |
frylock |
Nov-16-11 12:33 PM |
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She's trying--and I do not want OWS to "go away." |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 12:47 PM |
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so provide some suggestions for this EVOLUTION |
frylock |
Nov-16-11 12:52 PM |
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You double posted and I replied below. nt |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 01:06 PM |
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so provide some suggestions for this EVOLUTION |
frylock |
Nov-16-11 12:52 PM |
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I did. Look upthread. Edit to provide the link to the post, to make it easy for you. |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 12:56 PM |
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Focus on income inequality. Don't turn the focus to cops or the mayors or right to camp out or |
Pirate Smile |
Nov-16-11 10:41 AM |
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+1. nt |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 11:02 AM |
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rat wing radio will keep kicking internet ass as long as it is ignored |
certainot |
Nov-16-11 10:51 AM |
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Totally Agree. NT |
Cowpunk |
Nov-16-11 03:57 PM |
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White House propaganda poll. |
golddigger |
Nov-16-11 10:54 AM |
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No kidding. This isn't a news piece and shouldn't be in LBN. |
EFerrari |
Nov-16-11 11:01 AM |
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It's a "flavor"? |
AlbertCat |
Nov-16-11 10:58 AM |
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Independents decide elections in MASSACHUSETTS. |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 11:04 AM |
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I think I'm going to declare a moratorium on looking at any polls between now and the election. |
totodeinhere |
Nov-16-11 11:04 AM |
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But Democrat candidates will be keeping and eye on polls |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-16-11 11:07 AM |
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Sure, and so will the GOP candidates. I wasn't faulting you for posting this and I expect |
totodeinhere |
Nov-16-11 11:12 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-16-11 01:32 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-16-11 01:36 PM |
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This is move about actions, not camping |
SpartanDem |
Nov-16-11 11:27 AM |
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Parks are public property. Bank lobbies and foreclosed homes are not. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 04:43 PM |
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Zucotti Park is a public park owned privately. Don't know how that happened |
wordpix |
Nov-16-11 09:55 PM |
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It's a program to expand public space with private land investments. |
boppers |
Nov-16-11 11:31 PM |
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It;'s a privately owned park, but for the use of the public. |
No Elephants |
Nov-17-11 02:55 AM |
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Revolutions are not about poll numbers. |
Dover |
Nov-16-11 11:34 AM |
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Unrec for pushing propaganda |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 11:37 AM |
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Public Policy Polling... |
Javaman |
Nov-16-11 11:37 AM |
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No poll is accurate all the time. But plenty of people at DU gleefully post other polls |
totodeinhere |
Nov-16-11 12:49 PM |
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the proprietor, Dean Debnam, is a Dem |
wordpix |
Nov-16-11 09:56 PM |
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Well I guess they should just shut up and pack their shit and go home. |
golddigger |
Nov-16-11 12:07 PM |
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Why don't you try looking at the video of the commercial, and then tell us it's a love note? nt |
MADem |
Nov-16-11 12:49 PM |
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OMG, Republicans made an unflattering commercial about Warren. Disband the movement. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 04:45 PM |
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-1. Contextual dishonesty on your part. nt |
MADem |
Nov-18-11 02:36 AM |
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Question: Am I in or out of the Matrix??? |
laureloak |
Nov-16-11 12:50 PM |
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Wouldn't surprise me if true. |
moondust |
Nov-16-11 01:28 PM |
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Poll could be biased due to obvious possible ulterior propaganda motives. |
Zorra |
Nov-16-11 01:31 PM |
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This is ok...and it goes with what I've been hoping for...and that is that the movement will evolve. |
SoapBox |
Nov-16-11 01:32 PM |
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Bullshit propaganda! |
santamargarita |
Nov-16-11 04:12 PM |
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Damn straight it is! |
golddigger |
Nov-16-11 04:21 PM |
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seeking REAL political change is about changing the range of discussion. not following the fickle |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-16-11 04:19 PM |
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Scott Olsen |
unionworks |
Nov-16-11 04:24 PM |
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To the occupiers: THANK YOU. |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 04:48 PM |
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Meanwhile, elsewhere on DU, "NY Voters Back Protestors." |
No Elephants |
Nov-16-11 04:52 PM |
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Unrec for continuous onslaught of anti OWS propaganda |
Kingofalldems |
Nov-16-11 08:03 PM |
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Thank you for kicking the post to the top |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-17-11 10:40 AM |
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Nov-16-11 09:42 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Nov-16-11 09:48 PM |
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That comment is beautifully Herman Cainesque. nt |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Nov-17-11 08:45 AM |
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LOL. Cain should be deleted from those deemed eligible to be POTUS, too. |
No Elephants |
Nov-18-11 04:42 AM |
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Fortunately it's no longer with us. nt |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Nov-18-11 09:32 AM |
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I dont believe it...at all. |
and-justice-for-all |
Nov-17-11 10:34 AM |
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Horseshit. |
6000eliot |
Nov-18-11 03:22 AM |
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Why are you spreading such garbage? nt |
Modern_Matthew |
Nov-18-11 04:52 AM |
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So...this is the latest attempt to stop OWS? |
Desertrose |
Nov-18-11 09:46 AM |
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In judging right and wrong I always consult the opinion polls first. |
JackRiddler |
Nov-28-11 11:14 AM |
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So do many politicians, including perhaps President Obama |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-28-11 11:21 AM |
#135 |
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Lack of ironic sense and apologetics for right-wing policies seem to go together. |
JackRiddler |
Nov-28-11 11:26 AM |
#136 |
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