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Sun Nov-13-11 08:44 PM
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| 4. Some history and references: |
| -Massachusetts Mulls Letting Bars Offer Happy Hours (ban signed by Dukakis) |
alp227 |
Nov-13-11 08:10 PM |
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Massachusetts had (still has?) some very rigid alcohol laws |
bluestateguy |
Nov-13-11 08:17 PM |
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No there are a lot of dunk driving incidents after happy hours. After one famous one the law was |
pam4water |
Nov-14-11 01:51 AM |
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Noting in that article |
naaman fletcher |
Nov-14-11 03:29 AM |
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Please see Reply 33. |
No Elephants |
Nov-14-11 04:40 AM |
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Get rid of the nanny state. |
tabasco |
Nov-13-11 08:27 PM |
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Nov-13-11 08:37 PM |
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Some history and references: |
boppers |
Nov-13-11 08:44 PM |
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Nanny statism comes from the busybody wings of the Left and the Right |
bluestateguy |
Nov-13-11 08:53 PM |
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"Nanny State" is strickly RW concept and RW propaganda -- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 09:59 PM |
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Nov-13-11 10:03 PM |
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The entire post .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 10:10 PM |
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Perjoratively is not partisan. |
Chan790 |
Nov-13-11 10:16 PM |
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And you think gun control and drunk driving laws are "invasive authoritarianism" ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 10:35 PM |
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Where did drunk driving laws come into this... |
Chan790 |
Nov-13-11 10:54 PM |
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"any attempt to attach the issue of happy hours to drunk driving is tenuous." |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 11:00 PM |
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In my part of the world they take a cab or a city bus |
Chan790 |
Nov-13-11 11:10 PM |
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So you are basing your logic supporting your view of drunk driving statistics |
TheEuclideanOne |
Nov-14-11 12:45 AM |
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No connection between "Happy Hour" and drunk driving? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 11:03 PM |
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Nov-13-11 11:08 PM |
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What do you think about blue laws |
christx30 |
Nov-13-11 11:11 PM |
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Obviously you object to them all .... ???? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 11:35 PM |
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In answer to your last question |
christx30 |
Nov-14-11 01:55 AM |
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Would you be OK with the withdrawal of Medicare from smokers? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-14-11 06:22 AM |
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Great question .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-11 02:07 PM |
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Then why obey STOP signs? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-11 02:05 PM |
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D & P said the entire post was pejorative against the Left. |
No Elephants |
Nov-14-11 04:45 AM |
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" all are infringements upon freedom and, duh, yes, most laws are. It's called living in a society" |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-11 02:09 PM |
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No, it's not. |
tabasco |
Nov-13-11 09:04 PM |
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I have a rudeness and intolerance for simpleton talking points. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 09:09 PM |
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You batted it down? |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-13-11 09:20 PM |
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Factual counterpoint: States have rules for retailers that distribute alcohol. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 09:26 PM |
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See your subject line. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-13-11 09:31 PM |
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I wouldn't consider that an attack. I'd consider that a question. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 09:41 PM |
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You're wrong. |
Psephos |
Nov-13-11 09:52 PM |
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I note that MA has a check in every single column. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-13-11 10:10 PM |
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MA does not allow a Happy Hour. I'm not sure what that chart is referring to. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 10:21 PM |
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Should? |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-13-11 10:30 PM |
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Why are you referring to Massachusetts and then using Maryland's #s? |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 10:42 PM |
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My mistake. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-14-11 12:59 AM |
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Here's more, from the same study. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 10:25 PM |
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whether the states had rules against those things |
alp227 |
Nov-13-11 10:48 PM |
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Nanny states are not partisan. |
Muskypundit |
Nov-13-11 10:46 PM |
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It's not ridiculous. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 10:56 PM |
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Note who is complaining about happy hours. |
Occulus |
Nov-14-11 08:35 AM |
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"term nanny state is typically used pejoratively" .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 10:06 PM |
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Self delete. |
No Elephants |
Nov-14-11 05:06 AM |
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Nov-13-11 09:25 PM |
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Drunk driving is already the leading cause of death among young adults. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 09:36 PM |
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Take them off the roads, rather than punish them into bankruptcy |
Taverner |
Nov-13-11 10:02 PM |
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Checkpoints for everyone so we can have more Happy Hours? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 10:14 PM |
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Then set up "No Record" Checkpoints right at the bars |
Taverner |
Nov-13-11 10:19 PM |
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Boston is about CARS ... not taxis -- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 10:31 PM |
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Well, that sure explains this. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-14-11 12:56 AM |
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Boston is about cars? That's the most seriously ill-informed comment on this thread. |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-14-11 11:11 AM |
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Boston isn't NYC re taxis ..... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-11 03:19 PM |
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I lived in Boston for decades. |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-16-11 10:50 AM |
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So in your world alcohol is only available in bars? |
Riftaxe |
Nov-13-11 10:59 PM |
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You are free to drink to your heart's content in the comfort of your own home. |
blueclown |
Nov-13-11 11:03 PM |
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Personally drinking would drop my glucose levels |
Riftaxe |
Nov-13-11 11:21 PM |
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Not everyone drives. |
Leftist Agitator |
Nov-14-11 05:36 AM |
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Nanny-State-ism is Nanny-State-ism |
Taverner |
Nov-13-11 10:00 PM |
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Question is, whose freedom? |
No Elephants |
Nov-14-11 05:31 AM |
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Cool! More drinking and driving! |
SoapBox |
Nov-13-11 08:51 PM |
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Just what we need - more drunks on the roads. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-13-11 08:56 PM |
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I am not a Mass resident but I would support this. It is getting very expensive these days to buy a |
totodeinhere |
Nov-13-11 09:04 PM |
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Republicans say that poor people can just bootleg a la Prohibition nt |
alp227 |
Nov-13-11 09:13 PM |
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Recently in Boston, at the bar before eating, we paid $8 for a drink -- plus tip -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-13-11 10:07 PM |
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Please see Replies 33 and 65. I'm not taking a position on the law per se. |
No Elephants |
Nov-14-11 05:37 AM |
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I was a MA resident when the happy hour ban was instituted. |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-14-11 11:15 AM |
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27 years without Happy Hour...Do they require a fun permit too...? |
Philosopher King |
Nov-13-11 09:07 PM |
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27 years without happy hour. |
Chan790 |
Nov-13-11 10:06 PM |
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Free is the same as selling in NY & its illegal to have a one price all you can drink... |
Historic NY |
Nov-13-11 10:44 PM |
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The kind of "freedom" people are advocating for here is incompatible with public health insurance. |
saras |
Nov-14-11 02:19 AM |
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So, in the name of public health, should we outlaw all alcohol and/or tobacco? |
kelly1mm |
Nov-14-11 08:00 AM |
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Exactly, where do we draw the line? |
hughee99 |
Nov-14-11 12:47 PM |
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Is the rate of drunk driving fatalities significantly lower than in state which permit happy hours? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-14-11 09:02 AM |
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Wow, telling a company they can't have special deals? |
Dragonbreathp9d |
Nov-14-11 07:47 PM |
#76 |
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