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87. Does 2 days count?
Shoes with cardboard covering the hole in the sole? Walking in the snow to school, no breakfast and knowing there is nothing to eat between now and dinner and you know that's going to be a only a potato. Hoping that the time goes by fast so your Mom will get the commodities so you know that your going to get a good pot of cracked beans.

Not the Depression but a lot of us had that life growing up so save your fucking condescending attitude.
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  -Late night warning: Obama reads riot act to European leaders and orders them to take more dramatic a dipsydoodle  Nov-11-11 05:02 AM   #0 
  - Like what?  rucky   Nov-11-11 05:08 AM   #1 
  - Like picking a PM, settting up an interim government and voting on the debt plans.  DCBob   Nov-11-11 05:17 AM   #2 
  - aka  dipsydoodle   Nov-11-11 05:21 AM   #3 
  - Does that mean rescuing the 1% like we did?  bread_and_roses   Nov-11-11 05:53 AM   #7 
     - Yes. That's exactly what it means, and it's a bad idea.  Laelth   Nov-11-11 06:17 AM   #11 
     - Hello pot, meet kettle  primavera   Nov-11-11 07:31 AM   #15 
     - Excellent comment  Islandlife   Nov-13-11 10:59 AM   #125 
     - imagine a scenario about 10 times worse than that..  DCBob   Nov-11-11 07:53 AM   #16 
     - oh, "thank god it passed!" - is that what you're saying?  bread_and_roses   Nov-11-11 08:09 AM   #19 
     - I dont like the austerity stuff either.. I dont think it works anyway.  DCBob   Nov-11-11 11:51 AM   #67 
        - The only alternative is to effing tax the wealthy, tax, tax, and tax....  Amonester   Nov-12-11 01:10 AM   #102 
        - you sound like mirror image of the RW kooks who's only solution is to cut, cut, cut taxes.  DCBob   Nov-12-11 06:49 AM   #104 
        - How do you know?  quakerboy   Nov-13-11 01:24 PM   #130 
        - When it has been so lopsided for so long, I agree with you.  mvd   Nov-12-11 08:16 AM   #106 
        - One major problem in places like Greece and Italy is tax avoidance  T_i_B   Nov-13-11 11:47 AM   #127 
        - You don't think it works, but you think there is no sensible alternative?  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-13-11 02:37 PM   #131 
     - Hmmmm  Kelvin Mace   Nov-11-11 08:53 AM   #28 
        - Obama isn't pouring gasoline over our economy.  pnwmom   Nov-11-11 11:51 AM   #68 
        - Huh?  Kelvin Mace   Nov-11-11 12:53 PM   #83 
        - and here I thought wall street helped create that  newspeak   Nov-12-11 01:54 PM   #108 
     - This is precisely the problem.  potone   Nov-11-11 10:06 AM   #45 
     - unfortunately, obama seems to listen to people like summers and geithner  newspeak   Nov-12-11 02:21 PM   #109 
     - The same thing is underway here, we just haven't acknowledged it yet.  Citizen Worker   Nov-11-11 10:59 AM   #54 
     - If I could recommend that post I would. +1,000  freshwest   Nov-11-11 01:44 PM   #88 
  - Banksters can't wait. They want it all and they want it now.  inna   Nov-11-11 06:40 AM   #13 
  - And once the entire world will fall into deep depression, where  Amonester   Nov-12-11 01:17 AM   #103 
  - How about exposing unregulated capitalism for the  dotymed   Nov-11-11 09:10 AM   #32 
  - You have to look at the part of the world that is at issue -  bhikkhu   Nov-11-11 09:46 AM   #42 
  - I agree that we must preserve the "socialist" (for the people)  dotymed   Nov-11-11 11:05 AM   #55 
  - Agree -- we could correct all of this very quickly in ending monopoly corps, FED ....  defendandprotect   Nov-11-11 11:27 AM   #62 
  - good idea, but those who hold power won't give it up voluntarily  inna   Nov-12-11 12:14 PM   #107 
  - The only immediate action that will have any effect is a wide spread 'hair cut'  grantcart   Nov-11-11 11:23 AM   #61 
  - Maybe the President should pay attention to the pots boiling in his own kitchen.  Magoo48   Nov-11-11 05:35 AM   #4 
  - +15 Trillion Brazillians  Demeter   Nov-11-11 05:37 AM   #5 
  - except that the neighbor's house is on fire and the wind is blowing our direction.  DCBob   Nov-11-11 05:52 AM   #6 
  - Point taken...:-)  Magoo48   Nov-11-11 05:55 AM   #8 
  - Shame that he didn't think of telling his own kids to stop playing with matches first ...  Nihil   Nov-11-11 06:17 AM   #10 
  - And Obama is stacking kindling  Kelvin Mace   Nov-11-11 08:55 AM   #29 
  - +100  emilyg   Nov-12-11 05:52 PM   #117 
  - I say, "Bring on the depression."  Laelth   Nov-11-11 06:15 AM   #9 
  - One person's debt is another person's wealth. Now, guess who  Fool Count   Nov-11-11 06:39 AM   #12 
  - Generally speaking, governments serve their "stakeholders," i.e. the wealthy.  Laelth   Nov-12-11 04:21 PM   #111 
     - If you (and here I mean the American public at large) are willing to  Fool Count   Nov-12-11 07:33 PM   #119 
        - I hear you. I am certainly not counting on their benevolence.  Laelth   Nov-12-11 08:01 PM   #120 
           - And the same depression in Europe caused the rise of Hitler (nt)  LeftishBrit   Nov-13-11 10:26 AM   #123 
              - I suppose that could happen in the U.S., though there's no precedent for it.  Laelth   Nov-13-11 06:54 PM   #133 
  - Good Essay  Owlet   Nov-11-11 06:54 AM   #14 
  - You really want a depression? I just want to see if you are serious about that. nt  Javaman   Nov-11-11 07:55 AM   #17 
  - Bring it on.  tcaudilllg   Nov-11-11 09:22 AM   #36 
  - 'Our tech'?  randome   Nov-11-11 09:35 AM   #40 
  - I don't believe the poster was referring to internet access.  AtheistCrusader   Nov-11-11 10:48 AM   #52 
  - You really have no clue.  Javaman   Nov-11-11 11:59 AM   #70 
     - What you said.  randome   Nov-11-11 12:02 PM   #72 
  - We've been in a depression for over 4-5 years now.  Dutchmaster   Nov-11-11 12:53 PM   #84 
  - No, we have been in a hard recession...  Javaman   Nov-11-11 01:51 PM   #89 
  - Did you bother to read Laelth's journal post?  Owlet   Nov-11-11 05:38 PM   #100 
  - Glad you enjoyed the essay.  Laelth   Nov-12-11 04:27 PM   #112 
  - I say, I agree with Laelth  Autumn   Nov-11-11 08:35 AM   #23 
  - Read "Hard Times" by Studs Turkle as a good primer before you agree.  Javaman   Nov-11-11 12:03 PM   #73 
     - I think I have a grasp of what a Depression is  Autumn   Nov-11-11 12:16 PM   #78 
        - Most people who are poor in America live in suburban areas.  randome   Nov-11-11 12:33 PM   #80 
        - When the people are hungry and pissed that Government better be  Autumn   Nov-11-11 01:53 PM   #90 
           - Only until the government is more afraid of us than we are of them, will things change.  Javaman   Nov-11-11 01:57 PM   #93 
        - No, you as well as I have zero gasp of a depression.  Javaman   Nov-11-11 01:35 PM   #86 
           - Does 2 days count?  Autumn   Nov-11-11 01:43 PM   #87 
              - Let me ask you, do you want to return to that?  Javaman   Nov-11-11 01:53 PM   #91 
                 - No, but it sure doesn't frighten me.  Autumn   Nov-11-11 01:56 PM   #92 
                    - True, but not everyone is you.  Javaman   Nov-11-11 02:02 PM   #94 
                    - I apologize for that remark.I was wrong to say that.  Autumn   Nov-11-11 02:12 PM   #95 
                       - Believe me, I completely understand your anger and frustration...  Javaman   Nov-11-11 02:37 PM   #97 
                       - What you posted is just what needs to happen.  Autumn   Nov-11-11 03:08 PM   #98 
                       - there are already families who are homeless  newspeak   Nov-12-11 03:04 PM   #110 
                    - No. it is NOT generally true that 'what doesn't kill us makes us stronger'  LeftishBrit   Nov-13-11 10:21 AM   #122 
                       - That applies to me  Autumn   Nov-13-11 10:37 AM   #124 
  - Serious economic hardship tends not to bring the best governments  LeftishBrit   Nov-11-11 08:51 AM   #27 
  - You have that backwards ....  defendandprotect   Nov-11-11 11:38 AM   #63 
  - be very careful what you wish for.  ChairmanAgnostic   Nov-11-11 11:19 AM   #58 
  - People today have zero clue as to what a depression is like...  Javaman   Nov-11-11 12:12 PM   #75 
  - words of wisdom, Java. I only wish more would see them  ChairmanAgnostic   Nov-11-11 12:16 PM   #77 
  - Do you know of another, better way to get liberal government in the U.S.?  Laelth   Nov-12-11 04:31 PM   #113 
  - I just read  sulphurdunn   Nov-11-11 01:27 PM   #85 
  - Hear, hear. We need significant change, and we need it yesterday.  Laelth   Nov-12-11 04:33 PM   #114 
  - Are you OK with money owed to you being wiped out?  hugo_from_TN   Nov-11-11 02:15 PM   #96 
  - Yes, honestly, I would be O.K. with that.  Laelth   Nov-12-11 04:39 PM   #115 
  - I say, "Bring on reality"..  DCBob   Nov-11-11 04:50 PM   #99 
     - Very few people who live in DC have any clue what "reality" is.  Laelth   Nov-12-11 04:42 PM   #116 
  - Europe to Obama - your Article II powers end at the USG Executive  24601   Nov-11-11 08:02 AM   #18 
  - words.  Javaman   Nov-11-11 08:10 AM   #20 
  - ...and risk a political donation ??? Never....  russspeakeasy   Nov-11-11 08:39 AM   #24 
     - Good one! nt  Javaman   Nov-11-11 10:38 AM   #50 
  - The commands from the imperial capital...  Odin2005   Nov-11-11 08:16 AM   #21 
  - Obama, you need to try some Wall Street crooks (and Chicago ones too)  JDPriestly   Nov-11-11 08:21 AM   #22 
  - He never read the riot act to the banksters.  tblue   Nov-11-11 08:41 AM   #25 
  - I seriously doubt that Obama has ORDERED Merkel, Sarkozy, etc. to do anything  LeftishBrit   Nov-11-11 08:47 AM   #26 
  - The Daily Mail is a right wing rag. Why not just accept the  sufrommich   Nov-11-11 08:59 AM   #30 
  - news is news  dipsydoodle   Nov-11-11 09:26 AM   #39 
     - So you believe that Obama "read European leaders the  sufrommich   Nov-11-11 09:58 AM   #44 
     - Also a little research will show you that in no way did  sufrommich   Nov-11-11 10:08 AM   #47 
     - Well they do love The Daily Mail...  PoliticAverse   Nov-11-11 12:09 PM   #74 
     - For the umpteenth time...  T_i_B   Nov-13-11 11:51 AM   #128 
  - When you consider that the American economy  Turbineguy   Nov-11-11 09:02 AM   #31 
  - When you realize that the best place in the world for social equity would be wiped out...  bhikkhu   Nov-11-11 09:53 AM   #43 
     - Excellent point.  Turbineguy   Nov-11-11 12:14 PM   #76 
  - It's time for the locals to write their own money and go sustainable while  nineteen50   Nov-11-11 09:15 AM   #33 
  - +infinity  tcaudilllg   Nov-11-11 09:23 AM   #38 
  - Agree -- uninvent the dollar bill in your own neighborhood -- every dollar bill = destriction ...!!  defendandprotect   Nov-11-11 11:20 AM   #59 
  - One very real issue here...  T_i_B   Nov-13-11 11:54 AM   #129 
  - I hope this will finally open eyes about Obama: THIS is the real man.  tcaudilllg   Nov-11-11 09:17 AM   #34 
  - Quite frankly I don't think any of these heads of gov't, including our own, really knows  snappyturtle   Nov-11-11 09:19 AM   #35 
  - Michele Bachmann says Obama should apologize to Europe  Enrique   Nov-11-11 09:23 AM   #37 
  - Greek Elections were purchased ...  Lenomsky   Nov-11-11 09:39 AM   #41 
  - bwahahahaha!!!  frylock   Nov-11-11 10:08 AM   #46 
  - Yes, yes, yes.... by all means ''act'' faster.  DeSwiss   Nov-11-11 10:17 AM   #48 
  - Umm, maybe they won't because they can't.  marmar   Nov-11-11 10:37 AM   #49 
  - B.S.  harvey007   Nov-11-11 10:38 AM   #51 
  - Coinkydink that the new Greek PM is their "Top Banker" ??  Myrina   Nov-11-11 10:51 AM   #53 
  - We are giving advice to the Europeans?  Beacool   Nov-11-11 11:10 AM   #56 
  - Compared to Greece and Italy, the US is doing well.  randome   Nov-11-11 12:01 PM   #71 
  - Obama "orders them?" Since when do European leaders take orders from an American president?  totodeinhere   Nov-11-11 11:16 AM   #57 
  - Great question --- !!  defendandprotect   Nov-11-11 11:22 AM   #60 
  - Since the twelfth of never (except Tony from Bush, perhaps). This is just the Daily Mail being  LeftishBrit   Nov-11-11 11:42 AM   #64 
  - People Are Jumping To Conclusions Here  DallasNE   Nov-11-11 11:47 AM   #65 
  - I think a reset is exactly what we need...  and-justice-for-all   Nov-11-11 11:49 AM   #66 
  - These words are at least entertaining. Enjoy.  Systematic Chaos   Nov-11-11 11:56 AM   #69 
  - glass fucking houses and all that ..... .......... .................  stockholmer   Nov-11-11 12:28 PM   #79 
  - the US has no credibility on this with our own $14 trillion debt that's rising  wordpix   Nov-11-11 12:45 PM   #81 
  - Huh  davidthegnome   Nov-11-11 12:45 PM   #82 
  - 'orders'? kind of like how he 'reads the riot act' to obstructionist repukes?  marasinghe   Nov-11-11 06:57 PM   #101 
  - This is funny..  sendero   Nov-12-11 07:00 AM   #105 
  - +1  emilyg   Nov-12-11 05:54 PM   #118 
  - They should ALL PRINT CASH and distribute it to the poor.  Amonester   Nov-13-11 11:15 AM   #126 
     - Wel.l..  sendero   Nov-13-11 02:39 PM   #132 
        - Printing has already happened for the banksters.  Amonester   Nov-14-11 01:00 AM   #135 
           - I agree.  sendero   Nov-14-11 05:08 AM   #137 
  - This must be some of that "smart diplomacy" we were promised. n/t  Psephos   Nov-13-11 01:09 AM   #121 
  - the New World Order is collapsing  lovuian   Nov-13-11 07:33 PM   #134 
  - Yeah, they should all follow the example of the US. It's so successful!  Violet_Crumble   Nov-14-11 01:15 AM   #136 

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