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Sat Nov-05-11 05:34 PM
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Makes it clear that: "No State shall write or enforce *any* law which shall abridge the *privileges* or *immunities* of citizens of the United States"
Hi Sarah Ibarruri I just wanted to mention that I believe this sentence in the 14th Amendment nullifies any law which ordinarily would be ok for the States to enforce. However, whenever the citizens of the United States form an assembly, enforcing things like "loitering laws" or requiring a permit is in direct contradiction to the 1st Amendment and falls under this sentence in the 14th Amendment. The Constitution itself IS the permit.
I believe the authors and signers of the Constitution considered its language very carefully. And as I read this sentence I notice they chose to use the term "ANY LAW". To me that means exactly what it says - "ANY LAW". Also, I notice they chose to connect that term to "Privileges or Immunities". Immunities? Immunities from what? The way I read it, it means immunity from any law which shall abridge any of the civil rights protected and guaranteed to the citizens of the United States by the Constitution. Like for example: "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
In short. It is my opinion that "federal law trumps state law" with the Constitution being the supreme law of the land.
However, of course that is if we didn't have a Nazi police force working for today's kangaroo courts. As far as who are the likely culprits harassing women. I totally agree with you. Its probably repub psychos. They do after all have a track record of doing unlawful shit for the purpose of discrediting movements they dislike.
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| -Occupy Wall Street builds tent as 'safe house' to protect female protesters |
PoliticAverse |
Nov-05-11 10:48 AM |
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This is ridiculous. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-05-11 11:15 AM |
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Obviously you have little |
femrap |
Nov-05-11 11:46 AM |
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I think it over-states the problem. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-05-11 03:02 PM |
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Nov-05-11 07:01 PM |
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Atypical, I'm guessing you are a man. Ask a sister, girlfriend or your mother |
robinlynne |
Nov-05-11 08:23 PM |
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You have mentioned the key to the "problem," now find the lock... |
SteveM |
Nov-05-11 04:36 PM |
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Nov-05-11 07:12 PM |
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Nov-05-11 06:44 PM |
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In case you don't know... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-05-11 03:18 PM |
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Atypical. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-05-11 05:24 PM |
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Dear Atypical, Rape IS a problem and the OWS women rules group is handling it |
wordpix |
Nov-05-11 07:56 PM |
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Nov-05-11 08:11 PM |
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Have you stopped beating your wife lately? |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-05-11 08:25 PM |
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I'm completely against weapons. I feel lots safer in countries where gun ownership is uncommon |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-05-11 10:22 PM |
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It may interest you to know... |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-06-11 01:51 AM |
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The only ones deterred by guns are people like me, who would never commit a crime |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-06-11 10:46 AM |
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No doubt. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-06-11 07:02 PM |
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My wife has deterred three men with her gun. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-06-11 07:59 PM |
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I'm guessing he's afraid the OWS movement will be hurt, however... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-05-11 10:20 PM |
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EXACTLY. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-06-11 01:55 AM |
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Well, as long as OWS remains leaderless, it will succeed. They cannot investigate every person in |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-06-11 10:48 AM |
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Ah ok. Thanks for explanining. I agree with you on Libertarians. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-05-11 10:18 PM |
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My positions... |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-06-11 01:58 AM |
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Fine. I support a benevolent government that serves its people, not just the 1%. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-06-11 10:50 AM |
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Guns also enable resistence to violence and oppression. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-06-11 07:04 PM |
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14th Amendment |
Xicano |
Nov-05-11 05:34 PM |
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That's a good point. Loitering laws are unconstitutional. And yet there they are. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-05-11 10:15 PM |
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Tough. |
EFerrari |
Nov-05-11 03:39 PM |
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Nov-05-11 11:23 AM |
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Eight and a half square feet ought to be enough for anybody. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-05-11 02:48 PM |
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This is new (Post Cold War, 1990s new) expandable tent. |
happyslug |
Nov-05-11 10:12 PM |
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DNAinfo.com version of the story... |
PoliticAverse |
Nov-05-11 11:24 AM |
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According to this one a man was arrested for allegedly sexually assaulting a woman. |
caseymoz |
Nov-05-11 09:42 PM |
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I smell a rat. |
stevedeshazer |
Nov-05-11 11:24 AM |
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NY Post version of the story... |
PoliticAverse |
Nov-05-11 11:25 AM |
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CBS New York version of the story (with audio report)... |
PoliticAverse |
Nov-05-11 11:29 AM |
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Murdered? |
PSPS |
Nov-05-11 11:33 AM |
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I think they meant 16 feet square, 16 feet on each side not 16 square-feet... |
PoliticAverse |
Nov-05-11 11:44 AM |
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bunk beds.....ever see |
femrap |
Nov-05-11 11:54 AM |
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I think the problem people have is the total and complete lack of practicality. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 12:08 PM |
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And your idea is what???? |
femrap |
Nov-05-11 12:46 PM |
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And I'm tired of pretending that imaginary solutions are the same as real solutions. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 12:57 PM |
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Yes, let's stop imagining possible solutions to our problems. |
aquart |
Nov-05-11 03:20 PM |
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yak yak blah blah |
femrap |
Nov-05-11 07:04 PM |
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How about the men step up and police the predators among them? |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-05-11 02:49 PM |
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Where does it say the men are not helping? |
aquart |
Nov-05-11 03:16 PM |
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This is the only apparent countermeasure I have heard of so far. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-05-11 06:52 PM |
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Under what authority? NT |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-05-11 04:45 PM |
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I believe security is |
femrap |
Nov-05-11 07:03 PM |
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I get a strong feeling that another agenda is at work in this thread. |
CTyankee |
Nov-07-11 08:37 AM |
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Not all of the women will be sleeping in the safe house, or need to. |
Raksha |
Nov-05-11 03:20 PM |
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Link? And how many? |
caseymoz |
Nov-05-11 09:30 PM |
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There have been two documented sexual assaults that I could find. |
caseymoz |
Nov-06-11 07:04 AM |
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I noticed that statement but feel she may have made a statement ... |
spin |
Nov-05-11 02:33 PM |
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Much smaller. |
caseymoz |
Nov-05-11 09:03 PM |
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When will it come out that the cops are telling people OWS is a free rape zone? |
a simple pattern |
Nov-05-11 12:16 PM |
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We've got a winner here. |
saras |
Nov-05-11 12:41 PM |
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"26-year-old Tonye Iketubosin was charged with sex abuse" |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-05-11 05:05 PM |
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What a crock of shit. |
Zax2me |
Nov-05-11 05:53 PM |
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huh? get a grip, this is beyond belief |
wordpix |
Nov-05-11 08:01 PM |
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I find it sick that even at something as idealistic as OWS that Women... |
Odin2005 |
Nov-05-11 01:32 PM |
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The media have reported that the cops are sending |
dotymed |
Nov-05-11 03:41 PM |
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The explanation is that criminals were released in the area before OWS & still are. NT |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-05-11 05:04 PM |
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Shame |
Charlemagne |
Nov-05-11 03:15 PM |
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Good- any group gathering in public can attract unaffiliated transients - |
haele |
Nov-05-11 03:28 PM |
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Got a few "transients" in OccupyAustin... |
SteveM |
Nov-05-11 04:44 PM |
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Occupy Nashville Has Had Major Problems With Homeless |
NashVegas |
Nov-05-11 04:54 PM |
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i didn't read the link but aren't homeless part of the 99 percent and one of the reasons |
JI7 |
Nov-05-11 08:07 PM |
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It's an intersesting read, and one of the comments on it: |
boppers |
Nov-05-11 08:46 PM |
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Homeless |
TheHomelessGuy |
Nov-05-11 10:13 PM |
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Is That You? |
NashVegas |
Nov-07-11 11:42 AM |
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Look down the list of posts in Political Videos a bit, for Cops directing drunks, etc. to Zuccotti. |
Fire Walk With Me |
Nov-05-11 10:32 PM |
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I'm saddened that this is needed - but glad it's there |
Taverner |
Nov-05-11 04:34 PM |
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+1 |
varelse |
Nov-05-11 04:48 PM |
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even in my small towns occupation |
unionworks |
Nov-05-11 05:08 PM |
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WABC-TV Video version of story... |
PoliticAverse |
Nov-06-11 01:10 AM |
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Gothamist.com version of the story... |
PoliticAverse |
Nov-06-11 01:18 AM |
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