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Wed Nov-02-11 01:10 PM
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Isn't it amazing? We have a generation of people out there who have no idea how we managed to get anything done, how we managed to learn anything, how we managed to socialize, before the internets.
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| -Greek bailout vote reignites euro crisis |
tama |
Nov-01-11 07:49 AM |
#0 |
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Greek Health Minister Says Referendum Won’t Happen: Proto Thema |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 08:03 AM |
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Collapse of the Government |
earthside |
Nov-01-11 08:22 AM |
#6 |
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Flat-out default is really their best option. |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 08:25 AM |
#7 |
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This is only part of the exposure |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 09:20 AM |
#17 |
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Mutually Assured Destruction? |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 09:43 AM |
#19 |
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Greece wants a better deal or it will take everyone down with it. High stakes |
kiranon |
Nov-01-11 12:19 PM |
#60 |
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Not the way I see it |
tama |
Nov-01-11 12:36 PM |
#65 |
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Greece wants a better deal or it will take everyone down with it. High stakes |
kiranon |
Nov-01-11 12:22 PM |
#62 |
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Exactly. That is a technical default triggering CDS payments, |
Fool Count |
Nov-01-11 07:26 PM |
#132 |
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Interesting point |
tama |
Nov-01-11 08:06 PM |
#136 |
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Exactly right. Everybody should read your post |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-02-11 01:54 PM |
#158 |
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Well, lough all you want at Lyndon Larouche but he was going on |
Fool Count |
Nov-03-11 04:20 PM |
#161 |
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Its been obvious since the start of this whole mess in 2008... |
Moostache |
Nov-01-11 08:55 AM |
#11 |
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Bingo. |
Ghost Dog |
Nov-01-11 01:11 PM |
#73 |
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Greek Ruling Pasok Party Majority Falls to 151, Kerdos Reports - BBG |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 08:03 AM |
#2 |
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The "block of Simitis" fleeing |
tama |
Nov-01-11 08:09 AM |
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G-Pap's Referendum Bomb Was Secret Even From His Finance Minister |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 08:03 AM |
#3 |
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Democracy up? |
Turbineguy |
Nov-01-11 08:11 AM |
#5 |
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The choise is |
tama |
Nov-01-11 08:31 AM |
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It would be nice if the choice |
Turbineguy |
Nov-01-11 08:45 AM |
#9 |
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Emancipate yourself from mental slavery |
tama |
Nov-01-11 08:57 AM |
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Money is a medium of exchange, not a thing in and of its own self |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 10:34 AM |
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Supermarkets, |
tama |
Nov-01-11 10:48 AM |
#39 |
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Not gonna happen |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 11:07 AM |
#43 |
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Let's say |
tama |
Nov-01-11 11:23 AM |
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Who wants to live like the Amish except the Amish? |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 11:40 AM |
#49 |
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We don't get allways what we want |
tama |
Nov-01-11 11:57 AM |
#54 |
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Hey, I'm not knocking the Amish or self-sufficiency |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 12:01 PM |
#56 |
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As much as I enjoy my computer |
tama |
Nov-01-11 12:33 PM |
#64 |
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+8,000,000 |
NashVegas |
Nov-02-11 01:10 PM |
#155 |
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Your dad is not the problem. The problem is the banker who makes more |
plumbob |
Nov-01-11 06:20 PM |
#125 |
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But sir, |
GeorgeGist |
Nov-01-11 09:53 AM |
#22 |
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Can someone answer me this... |
SkyDaddy7 |
Nov-01-11 10:34 AM |
#33 |
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He who pays the piper calls the tune |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 10:46 AM |
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Thank-you! |
SkyDaddy7 |
Nov-01-11 01:00 PM |
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Ancient poem from the Greek Anthology |
tama |
Nov-02-11 07:25 AM |
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Is slavery |
tama |
Nov-01-11 10:52 AM |
#40 |
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Are the Greeks self-sufficient? |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 11:12 AM |
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Greece is very dependent |
tama |
Nov-01-11 11:33 AM |
#48 |
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest... |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 11:48 AM |
#52 |
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You make many good points |
tama |
Nov-01-11 12:13 PM |
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They will face a much worse immediate situation |
Yo_Mama |
Nov-01-11 12:19 PM |
#61 |
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Do you really think it would only be... |
SkyDaddy7 |
Nov-01-11 01:03 PM |
#70 |
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It's been a 4-year hit allready |
tama |
Nov-01-11 01:14 PM |
#74 |
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It would probably be much longer before they got their living standards back |
Yo_Mama |
Nov-01-11 04:50 PM |
#110 |
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And |
tama |
Nov-01-11 05:07 PM |
#112 |
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ANOTHER GREEK RULING PARTY LAWMAKER CALLS FOR ELECTIONS, NATIONAL UNITY GOVT - GREEK MEDIA |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 08:52 AM |
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Link to that here |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 09:10 AM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Nov-01-11 08:59 AM |
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Emergency Greek Cabinet Meeting At 4 pm Local - Early Elections, Referendum To Be Discussed |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 09:08 AM |
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On a TUESDAY? Tuesday is a bad luck day for the Greeks. |
happyslug |
Nov-01-11 09:37 AM |
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Greek Vote Gamble Said to Stun Euro Partners |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 09:13 AM |
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Out of touch. |
earthside |
Nov-01-11 09:44 AM |
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Someone said well |
tama |
Nov-01-11 09:59 AM |
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If the Greek PM didn't tell them about the referendum during the negotiations, |
pampango |
Nov-01-11 01:30 PM |
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Amazing How Events In Greece Effect My 401(k) |
TomCADem |
Nov-01-11 09:53 AM |
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The birth place |
tama |
Nov-01-11 10:07 AM |
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Beautiful, in a way. -nt- |
Celefin |
Nov-01-11 10:18 AM |
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Is there any real resemblance between classical Greece and present day Greece? |
FarCenter |
Nov-01-11 10:24 AM |
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Mountains |
tama |
Nov-01-11 10:36 AM |
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No problem |
Turbineguy |
Nov-01-11 10:22 AM |
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greece's gdp is five times as large as libya's |
unblock |
Nov-01-11 10:44 AM |
#37 |
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My boss has recently laid out arguments as to why GDP is a poor indicator |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 11:21 AM |
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you seem to be operating on the premise that public sector work isn't productive. |
unblock |
Nov-01-11 11:41 AM |
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Yes, but no economy requires 40% of its human capital be spent on health care |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 11:58 AM |
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the public sector could by 100%, that's totally viable. |
unblock |
Nov-01-11 12:26 PM |
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But it does depend on productivity |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 12:44 PM |
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Booooriiiiing!!!! |
tama |
Nov-01-11 01:23 PM |
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Does that mean everyone gets paid the same? |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 01:31 PM |
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Yes and no |
tama |
Nov-01-11 02:28 PM |
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What you're describing is the exact same system you're talking down |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 02:59 PM |
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Bitcoin |
tama |
Nov-01-11 03:29 PM |
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The Amish and Linux communities are so niche as to be economically insignificant |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 03:38 PM |
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Also |
tama |
Nov-01-11 04:19 PM |
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I think you missed my point |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 04:35 PM |
#105 |
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Not at all |
tama |
Nov-01-11 05:04 PM |
#111 |
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Not the same |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 05:23 PM |
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Well |
tama |
Nov-01-11 06:35 PM |
#128 |
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Those guys working in the cold are paid more than the millionaires in the offices? n/t |
ieoeja |
Nov-01-11 03:11 PM |
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Sometimes the millionaire earns what he makes |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 03:24 PM |
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My heart hurts |
tama |
Nov-01-11 03:32 PM |
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Why? |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 03:57 PM |
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It was just a sensual observation |
tama |
Nov-01-11 04:16 PM |
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It's not magic. It's not some nefarious scheme |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 04:45 PM |
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Is that so? |
tama |
Nov-01-11 05:13 PM |
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You're allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 05:34 PM |
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That is a good saying |
tama |
Nov-01-11 06:14 PM |
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The problem is that those in the financial industry typically do not. |
ieoeja |
Nov-01-11 04:36 PM |
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That's a crappy business model |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 04:39 PM |
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Who cares if the workers are productive? Management made more money. |
ieoeja |
Nov-02-11 09:12 AM |
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Money blinds. It's a cult. nt |
tama |
Nov-02-11 12:56 PM |
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holy damn...that is beyond crazy... |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-02-11 01:41 PM |
#157 |
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Mmmm, I worked in the oilfield for two decades, and I can assure you |
plumbob |
Nov-01-11 06:25 PM |
#127 |
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In local universities |
tama |
Nov-01-11 11:44 AM |
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this ^ |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Nov-01-11 12:02 PM |
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this^ x2 |
Celefin |
Nov-01-11 12:58 PM |
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Democracy up, markets down. Sly move. |
Celefin |
Nov-01-11 09:55 AM |
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Well, it's the right move, elections are supposed to be the source of political legitimacy. |
bemildred |
Nov-01-11 10:09 AM |
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Certainly. |
Celefin |
Nov-01-11 10:16 AM |
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Oh, I quite agree, he looks like a typical self-serving smoothbrain poiltician. |
bemildred |
Nov-01-11 10:20 AM |
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This was |
tama |
Nov-01-11 10:17 AM |
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"...the center-right opposition New Democracy party stepped up its calls for early elections." |
pampango |
Nov-01-11 10:41 AM |
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Banks to move ahead with Greek debt deal: IIF |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 11:00 AM |
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Double Your Money In 6 Months: 1 Year Greek Yields Pass 200% For First Time Ever |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 11:05 AM |
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Iceland defaulted and the people in Iceland are going to do |
lovuian |
Nov-01-11 11:31 AM |
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Since when was Iceland in the EU ? |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 11:55 AM |
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Argentina wasn't either |
Harmony Blue |
Nov-01-11 11:58 AM |
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Just for clarity |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 12:04 PM |
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My country is in the Eurozone |
tama |
Nov-01-11 01:03 PM |
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Back to the Drachma? |
T_i_B |
Nov-01-11 02:50 PM |
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I'm certain |
tama |
Nov-01-11 03:07 PM |
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What on earth are you yabbering on about? |
T_i_B |
Nov-01-11 03:40 PM |
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Sorry |
tama |
Nov-01-11 04:35 PM |
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We discuss and may not always agree |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 05:25 PM |
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Despite that |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-02-11 04:24 AM |
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After severe austerity measures, large tax increases and a big drop in personal income. |
hack89 |
Nov-01-11 12:39 PM |
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If it had a purpose they'd go with it |
Celefin |
Nov-01-11 01:07 PM |
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Then Iceland's example is irrelevant to Greece. |
hack89 |
Nov-01-11 01:40 PM |
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The Iceland's example |
tama |
Nov-01-11 02:56 PM |
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"No" means no credit |
hack89 |
Nov-01-11 03:37 PM |
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No means |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 03:59 PM |
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On top of cuts to government services. |
hack89 |
Nov-01-11 04:04 PM |
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In ancient Athens |
tama |
Nov-01-11 04:50 PM |
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There is no winning for the Greeks |
hack89 |
Nov-01-11 07:19 PM |
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Depends |
tama |
Nov-01-11 07:41 PM |
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The Greeks want every thing they have now |
hack89 |
Nov-01-11 07:45 PM |
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Living within means |
tama |
Nov-01-11 08:00 PM |
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Consumerism is not what is killing the Greeks |
hack89 |
Nov-02-11 05:43 AM |
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Bullshit nt |
tama |
Nov-02-11 07:13 AM |
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Here is a news flash - you have to pay for things you want. |
hack89 |
Nov-02-11 09:51 AM |
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So when you want sex you buy it? |
tama |
Nov-02-11 12:52 PM |
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So why they rioting over pensions and healthcare cuts? |
hack89 |
Nov-02-11 01:29 PM |
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They are not |
tama |
Nov-02-11 02:45 PM |
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Iceland didn't say 'no' to the IMF |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-01-11 05:13 PM |
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IIRC |
tama |
Nov-01-11 05:19 PM |
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That would be 'saying no to the UK and Netherlands', then |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-01-11 05:24 PM |
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From wikipedia |
tama |
Nov-01-11 08:44 PM |
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And again, I'll point out that Iceland was having an argument with UK/Netherlands |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-02-11 04:30 AM |
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Iceland and IMF part company |
tama |
Nov-02-11 07:02 AM |
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Is it true that their EU membership will be vetoed |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 05:20 PM |
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As far as I can tell, that is still the case |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-01-11 05:28 PM |
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Sounds like Greece is already cancelling the referendum... |
Imajika |
Nov-01-11 01:16 PM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
Nov-01-11 01:23 PM |
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GREEK GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN TOLKAS SAYS REFERENDUM TO GO AHEAD |
Roland99 |
Nov-01-11 02:54 PM |
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ZHTO! nt |
tama |
Nov-01-11 02:56 PM |
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Fantastic |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 03:50 PM |
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Top brass replaced |
bluebuzzard |
Nov-01-11 03:56 PM |
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Apparently that was already scheduled |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 04:08 PM |
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I believe the lede..... |
DeSwiss |
Nov-01-11 04:14 PM |
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When George was a little boy |
tama |
Nov-01-11 05:22 PM |
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BBC live text link here |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-01-11 05:50 PM |
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Not Tuesday anymore |
tama |
Nov-01-11 06:53 PM |
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Was 10.50pm GMT Tuesday here in the UK when I posted that |
dipsydoodle |
Nov-02-11 03:44 AM |
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My local time |
tama |
Nov-02-11 07:09 AM |
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subtext: bankers and speculators panic when Greek PM resorts to DEMOCRACY |
yurbud |
Nov-01-11 06:23 PM |
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That's right. |
Kaleko |
Nov-02-11 01:49 AM |
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You got it |
workinclasszero |
Nov-02-11 10:51 AM |
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Robert Reich blogs: Democracy of Finance |
tama |
Nov-01-11 06:58 PM |
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Beware of Greeks rejecting gifts. n/t |
rayofreason |
Nov-02-11 01:09 AM |
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Good one! :) nt |
tama |
Nov-02-11 07:10 AM |
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Haha :) /nt |
workinclasszero |
Nov-02-11 10:49 AM |
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GREECE BAILOUT REFERENDUM HAS BEEN SCRAPPED |
Roland99 |
Nov-03-11 09:56 AM |
#160 |