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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 11:23 AM
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46. Let's say
that I'm painfully aware of the points you make. It's a matter of cultural conditioning. How do Amish people build their houses?
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  -Greek bailout vote reignites euro crisis tama  Nov-01-11 07:49 AM   #0 
  - Greek Health Minister Says Referendum Wont Happen: Proto Thema  Roland99   Nov-01-11 08:03 AM   #1 
  - Collapse of the Government  earthside   Nov-01-11 08:22 AM   #6 
     - Flat-out default is really their best option.  Roland99   Nov-01-11 08:25 AM   #7 
     - This is only part of the exposure  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 09:20 AM   #17 
        - Mutually Assured Destruction?  Roland99   Nov-01-11 09:43 AM   #19 
        - Greece wants a better deal or it will take everyone down with it. High stakes  kiranon   Nov-01-11 12:19 PM   #60 
        - Not the way I see it  tama   Nov-01-11 12:36 PM   #65 
        - Greece wants a better deal or it will take everyone down with it. High stakes  kiranon   Nov-01-11 12:22 PM   #62 
        - Exactly. That is a technical default triggering CDS payments,  Fool Count   Nov-01-11 07:26 PM   #132 
           - Interesting point  tama   Nov-01-11 08:06 PM   #136 
           - Exactly right. Everybody should read your post  alcibiades_mystery   Nov-02-11 01:54 PM   #158 
              - Well, lough all you want at Lyndon Larouche but he was going on  Fool Count   Nov-03-11 04:20 PM   #161 
     - Its been obvious since the start of this whole mess in 2008...  Moostache   Nov-01-11 08:55 AM   #11 
        - Bingo.  Ghost Dog   Nov-01-11 01:11 PM   #73 
  - Greek Ruling Pasok Party Majority Falls to 151, Kerdos Reports - BBG  Roland99   Nov-01-11 08:03 AM   #2 
  - The "block of Simitis" fleeing  tama   Nov-01-11 08:09 AM   #4 
  - G-Pap's Referendum Bomb Was Secret Even From His Finance Minister  Roland99   Nov-01-11 08:03 AM   #3 
  - Democracy up?  Turbineguy   Nov-01-11 08:11 AM   #5 
  - The choise is  tama   Nov-01-11 08:31 AM   #8 
     - It would be nice if the choice  Turbineguy   Nov-01-11 08:45 AM   #9 
        - Emancipate yourself from mental slavery  tama   Nov-01-11 08:57 AM   #12 
        - Money is a medium of exchange, not a thing in and of its own self  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 10:34 AM   #34 
           - Supermarkets,  tama   Nov-01-11 10:48 AM   #39 
              - Not gonna happen  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 11:07 AM   #43 
                 - Let's say  tama   Nov-01-11 11:23 AM   #46 
                 - Who wants to live like the Amish except the Amish?  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 11:40 AM   #49 
                    - We don't get allways what we want  tama   Nov-01-11 11:57 AM   #54 
                       - Hey, I'm not knocking the Amish or self-sufficiency  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 12:01 PM   #56 
                          - As much as I enjoy my computer  tama   Nov-01-11 12:33 PM   #64 
                             - +8,000,000  NashVegas   Nov-02-11 01:10 PM   #155 
                 - Your dad is not the problem. The problem is the banker who makes more  plumbob   Nov-01-11 06:20 PM   #125 
        - But sir,  GeorgeGist   Nov-01-11 09:53 AM   #22 
        - Can someone answer me this...  SkyDaddy7   Nov-01-11 10:34 AM   #33 
           - He who pays the piper calls the tune  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 10:46 AM   #38 
           - Thank-you!  SkyDaddy7   Nov-01-11 01:00 PM   #69 
           - Ancient poem from the Greek Anthology  tama   Nov-02-11 07:25 AM   #148 
           - Is slavery  tama   Nov-01-11 10:52 AM   #40 
           - Are the Greeks self-sufficient?  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 11:12 AM   #44 
              - Greece is very dependent  tama   Nov-01-11 11:33 AM   #48 
                 - I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest...  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 11:48 AM   #52 
                    - You make many good points  tama   Nov-01-11 12:13 PM   #59 
           - They will face a much worse immediate situation  Yo_Mama   Nov-01-11 12:19 PM   #61 
              - Do you really think it would only be...  SkyDaddy7   Nov-01-11 01:03 PM   #70 
                 - It's been a 4-year hit allready  tama   Nov-01-11 01:14 PM   #74 
                 - It would probably be much longer before they got their living standards back  Yo_Mama   Nov-01-11 04:50 PM   #110 
                    - And  tama   Nov-01-11 05:07 PM   #112 
  - ANOTHER GREEK RULING PARTY LAWMAKER CALLS FOR ELECTIONS, NATIONAL UNITY GOVT - GREEK MEDIA  Roland99   Nov-01-11 08:52 AM   #10 
  - Link to that here  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 09:10 AM   #15 
  - recommend  xchrom   Nov-01-11 08:59 AM   #13 
  - Emergency Greek Cabinet Meeting At 4 pm Local - Early Elections, Referendum To Be Discussed  Roland99   Nov-01-11 09:08 AM   #14 
  - On a TUESDAY? Tuesday is a bad luck day for the Greeks.  happyslug   Nov-01-11 09:37 AM   #18 
  - Greek Vote Gamble Said to Stun Euro Partners  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 09:13 AM   #16 
  - Out of touch.  earthside   Nov-01-11 09:44 AM   #20 
  - Someone said well  tama   Nov-01-11 09:59 AM   #24 
  - If the Greek PM didn't tell them about the referendum during the negotiations,  pampango   Nov-01-11 01:30 PM   #78 
  - Amazing How Events In Greece Effect My 401(k)  TomCADem   Nov-01-11 09:53 AM   #21 
  - The birth place  tama   Nov-01-11 10:07 AM   #25 
  - Beautiful, in a way. -nt-  Celefin   Nov-01-11 10:18 AM   #29 
  - Is there any real resemblance between classical Greece and present day Greece?  FarCenter   Nov-01-11 10:24 AM   #32 
     - Mountains  tama   Nov-01-11 10:36 AM   #35 
  - No problem  Turbineguy   Nov-01-11 10:22 AM   #31 
  - greece's gdp is five times as large as libya's  unblock   Nov-01-11 10:44 AM   #37 
     - My boss has recently laid out arguments as to why GDP is a poor indicator  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 11:21 AM   #45 
        - you seem to be operating on the premise that public sector work isn't productive.  unblock   Nov-01-11 11:41 AM   #50 
        - Yes, but no economy requires 40% of its human capital be spent on health care  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 11:58 AM   # 
           - the public sector could by 100%, that's totally viable.  unblock   Nov-01-11 12:26 PM   #63 
              - But it does depend on productivity  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 12:44 PM   #67 
                 - Booooriiiiing!!!!  tama   Nov-01-11 01:23 PM   #77 
                    - Does that mean everyone gets paid the same?  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 01:31 PM   #79 
                       - Yes and no  tama   Nov-01-11 02:28 PM   #81 
                       - What you're describing is the exact same system you're talking down  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 02:59 PM   #86 
                          - Bitcoin  tama   Nov-01-11 03:29 PM   #90 
                             - The Amish and Linux communities are so niche as to be economically insignificant  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 03:38 PM   #93 
                                - Also  tama   Nov-01-11 04:19 PM   #103 
                                   - I think you missed my point  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 04:35 PM   #105 
                                      - Not at all  tama   Nov-01-11 05:04 PM   #111 
                                         - Not the same  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 05:23 PM   #118 
                                            - Well  tama   Nov-01-11 06:35 PM   #128 
                       - Those guys working in the cold are paid more than the millionaires in the offices? n/t  ieoeja   Nov-01-11 03:11 PM   #88 
                       - Sometimes the millionaire earns what he makes  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 03:24 PM   #89 
                          - My heart hurts  tama   Nov-01-11 03:32 PM   #91 
                          - Why?  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 03:57 PM   #97 
                             - It was just a sensual observation  tama   Nov-01-11 04:16 PM   #102 
                                - It's not magic. It's not some nefarious scheme  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 04:45 PM   #108 
                                   - Is that so?  tama   Nov-01-11 05:13 PM   #114 
                                      - You're allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 05:34 PM   #122 
                                         - That is a good saying  tama   Nov-01-11 06:14 PM   #124 
                          - The problem is that those in the financial industry typically do not.  ieoeja   Nov-01-11 04:36 PM   #106 
                             - That's a crappy business model  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 04:39 PM   #107 
                                - Who cares if the workers are productive? Management made more money.  ieoeja   Nov-02-11 09:12 AM   #149 
                                   - Money blinds. It's a cult. nt  tama   Nov-02-11 12:56 PM   #154 
                                   - holy damn...that is beyond crazy...  Blue_Tires   Nov-02-11 01:41 PM   #157 
                       - Mmmm, I worked in the oilfield for two decades, and I can assure you  plumbob   Nov-01-11 06:25 PM   #127 
        - In local universities  tama   Nov-01-11 11:44 AM   #51 
           - this ^  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-01-11 12:02 PM   #57 
           - this^ x2  Celefin   Nov-01-11 12:58 PM   #68 
  - Democracy up, markets down. Sly move.  Celefin   Nov-01-11 09:55 AM   #23 
  - Well, it's the right move, elections are supposed to be the source of political legitimacy.  bemildred   Nov-01-11 10:09 AM   #26 
  - Certainly.  Celefin   Nov-01-11 10:16 AM   #27 
     - Oh, I quite agree, he looks like a typical self-serving smoothbrain poiltician.  bemildred   Nov-01-11 10:20 AM   #30 
  - This was  tama   Nov-01-11 10:17 AM   #28 
  - "...the center-right opposition New Democracy party stepped up its calls for early elections."  pampango   Nov-01-11 10:41 AM   #36 
  - Banks to move ahead with Greek debt deal: IIF  Roland99   Nov-01-11 11:00 AM   #41 
  - Double Your Money In 6 Months: 1 Year Greek Yields Pass 200% For First Time Ever  Roland99   Nov-01-11 11:05 AM   #42 
  - Iceland defaulted and the people in Iceland are going to do  lovuian   Nov-01-11 11:31 AM   #47 
  - Since when was Iceland in the EU ?  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 11:55 AM   #53 
  - Argentina wasn't either  Harmony Blue   Nov-01-11 11:58 AM   #55 
     - Just for clarity  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 12:04 PM   #58 
     - My country is in the Eurozone  tama   Nov-01-11 01:03 PM   #71 
     - Back to the Drachma?  T_i_B   Nov-01-11 02:50 PM   #82 
        - I'm certain  tama   Nov-01-11 03:07 PM   #87 
           - What on earth are you yabbering on about?  T_i_B   Nov-01-11 03:40 PM   #94 
              - Sorry  tama   Nov-01-11 04:35 PM   #104 
                 - We discuss and may not always agree  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 05:25 PM   #120 
     - Despite that  dipsydoodle   Nov-02-11 04:24 AM   #141 
  - After severe austerity measures, large tax increases and a big drop in personal income.  hack89   Nov-01-11 12:39 PM   #66 
     - If it had a purpose they'd go with it  Celefin   Nov-01-11 01:07 PM   #72 
        - Then Iceland's example is irrelevant to Greece.  hack89   Nov-01-11 01:40 PM   #80 
           - The Iceland's example  tama   Nov-01-11 02:56 PM   #84 
              - "No" means no credit  hack89   Nov-01-11 03:37 PM   #92 
              - No means  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 03:59 PM   #98 
              - On top of cuts to government services.  hack89   Nov-01-11 04:04 PM   #99 
              - In ancient Athens  tama   Nov-01-11 04:50 PM   #109 
                 - There is no winning for the Greeks  hack89   Nov-01-11 07:19 PM   #131 
                    - Depends  tama   Nov-01-11 07:41 PM   #133 
                       - The Greeks want every thing they have now  hack89   Nov-01-11 07:45 PM   #134 
                          - Living within means  tama   Nov-01-11 08:00 PM   #135 
                             - Consumerism is not what is killing the Greeks  hack89   Nov-02-11 05:43 AM   #143 
                                - Bullshit nt  tama   Nov-02-11 07:13 AM   #147 
                                   - Here is a news flash - you have to pay for things you want.  hack89   Nov-02-11 09:51 AM   #150 
                                      - So when you want sex you buy it?  tama   Nov-02-11 12:52 PM   #153 
                                         - So why they rioting over pensions and healthcare cuts?  hack89   Nov-02-11 01:29 PM   #156 
                                            - They are not  tama   Nov-02-11 02:45 PM   #159 
              - Iceland didn't say 'no' to the IMF  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-01-11 05:13 PM   #113 
                 - IIRC  tama   Nov-01-11 05:19 PM   #115 
                 - That would be 'saying no to the UK and Netherlands', then  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-01-11 05:24 PM   #119 
                    - From wikipedia  tama   Nov-01-11 08:44 PM   #137 
                       - And again, I'll point out that Iceland was having an argument with UK/Netherlands  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-02-11 04:30 AM   #142 
                          - Iceland and IMF part company  tama   Nov-02-11 07:02 AM   #144 
                 - Is it true that their EU membership will be vetoed  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 05:20 PM   #116 
                    - As far as I can tell, that is still the case  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-01-11 05:28 PM   #121 
  - Sounds like Greece is already cancelling the referendum...  Imajika   Nov-01-11 01:16 PM   #75 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Nov-01-11 01:23 PM   #76 
  - GREEK GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN TOLKAS SAYS REFERENDUM TO GO AHEAD  Roland99   Nov-01-11 02:54 PM   #83 
  - ZHTO! nt  tama   Nov-01-11 02:56 PM   #85 
  - Fantastic  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 03:50 PM   #95 
  - Top brass replaced  bluebuzzard   Nov-01-11 03:56 PM   #96 
  - Apparently that was already scheduled  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 04:08 PM   #100 
  - I believe the lede.....  DeSwiss   Nov-01-11 04:14 PM   #101 
  - When George was a little boy  tama   Nov-01-11 05:22 PM   #117 
  - BBC live text link here  dipsydoodle   Nov-01-11 05:50 PM   #123 
  - Not Tuesday anymore  tama   Nov-01-11 06:53 PM   #129 
     - Was 10.50pm GMT Tuesday here in the UK when I posted that  dipsydoodle   Nov-02-11 03:44 AM   #140 
        - My local time  tama   Nov-02-11 07:09 AM   #145 
  - subtext: bankers and speculators panic when Greek PM resorts to DEMOCRACY  yurbud   Nov-01-11 06:23 PM   #126 
  - That's right.  Kaleko   Nov-02-11 01:49 AM   #139 
  - You got it  workinclasszero   Nov-02-11 10:51 AM   #152 
  - Robert Reich blogs: Democracy of Finance  tama   Nov-01-11 06:58 PM   #130 
  - Beware of Greeks rejecting gifts. n/t  rayofreason   Nov-02-11 01:09 AM   #138 
  - Good one! :) nt  tama   Nov-02-11 07:10 AM   #146 
  - Haha :) /nt  workinclasszero   Nov-02-11 10:49 AM   #151 
  - GREECE BAILOUT REFERENDUM HAS BEEN SCRAPPED  Roland99   Nov-03-11 09:56 AM   #160 
 

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