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182. Actually it was not meant even at the time for at least
40%-50% of the population, but that's okay most of those who were excluded were only women and it only took 133 years to clear up that little democracy problem. And, of course, even males who were slaves, Native Americans or do not own property were also excluded.
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  -Oakland Police Critically Injure Iraq War Vet During Occupy March kpete  Oct-26-11 02:41 PM   #0 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Oct-26-11 02:43 PM   #1 
  - To Protect and Serve the One Percent  Blue Owl   Oct-26-11 02:45 PM   #2 
  - THAT SAYS IT ALL. Prayers and thoughts with the  truedelphi   Oct-26-11 03:34 PM   #45 
  - whow. how true!!  seacaves   Oct-26-11 06:27 PM   #100 
  - that deserves a photoshop--give me a day or two.  yurbud   Oct-26-11 07:12 PM   #114 
  - How about:  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-27-11 01:39 AM   #162 
     - I think that's what the cop said as he was beating him.  yurbud   Oct-27-11 03:03 PM   #221 
     - And it should be clear by now that Obama HASN'T got this, nearly any this  yurbud   Oct-27-11 03:07 PM   #222 
  - Richie fucking Rich's army.  lonestarnot   Oct-27-11 01:11 AM   #160 
  - that's right---"we must protect our way of life" = "we must protect the oil barons & their profits"  wordpix   Oct-27-11 11:02 AM   #191 
  - excellent sound bite & totally agree!  wordpix   Oct-27-11 11:00 AM   #190 
  - Get well soon Scott  tk2kewl   Oct-26-11 02:45 PM   #3 
  - Yes, get well soon. You are a true freedom fighter. nt  SusanaMontana41   Oct-27-11 12:45 PM   #202 
  - Kick  immoderate   Oct-26-11 02:45 PM   #4 
  - K & R. nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Oct-26-11 02:46 PM   #5 
  - this is just horrible.  zonkers   Oct-26-11 02:49 PM   #6 
  - Shit.  Hell Hath No Fury   Oct-26-11 02:50 PM   #7 
  - From what I've read, it wasn't only stupid, it was illegal for  shraby   Oct-26-11 02:55 PM   #13 
  - THIS man was fighting for our freedoms.  silverweb   Oct-26-11 02:51 PM   #8 
  - + 1,000  SpiralHawk   Oct-26-11 02:52 PM   #9 
  - I'm ashamed of the Oakland Police Department.  lunatica   Oct-26-11 02:53 PM   #10 
  - Sue Oakland  Capt Lionel Mandrake   Oct-26-11 03:48 PM   #50 
     - I would completely support taking this man's medical bills right out of their pension fund. (nt)  w4rma   Oct-26-11 08:27 PM   #130 
  - Survived TWO tours in Iraq to be shot in the head, unarmed, by a US policeman.  Poll_Blind   Oct-26-11 02:53 PM   #11 
  - A very good point ... and one I hope finds it's way through the legal system. n/t  Fantastic Anarchist   Oct-27-11 12:05 PM   #200 
  - Update.  silverweb   Oct-26-11 02:54 PM   #12 
  - +1 Thank you for the update nt  Poll_Blind   Oct-26-11 03:01 PM   #17 
  - You're welcome.  silverweb   Oct-26-11 03:04 PM   #20 
  - UK headline:Marine veteran fights for life-skull fracture and brain swelling from policegascannister  Divernan   Oct-26-11 03:27 PM   #40 
  - Thank you!  silverweb   Oct-26-11 03:32 PM   #44 
  - In the comments section of that article, someone says that maybe NATO  truth2power   Oct-27-11 04:25 AM   #167 
  - please make this a separate thread in itself  StarsInHerHair   Oct-26-11 09:15 PM   #139 
  - It's already been done.  silverweb   Oct-26-11 09:35 PM   #142 
  - They took him to Highland  XemaSab   Oct-27-11 01:47 AM   #163 
  - Just what is the rationale for using violent force against Americans exercising their 1st amendment  Gregorian   Oct-26-11 02:55 PM   #14 
  - Oh - haven't you heard? It's for "health & safety" reasons. i.e. "for your own good"  99th_Monkey   Oct-26-11 03:07 PM   #23 
     - Yeah, but it doesn't trump "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"  Gregorian   Oct-26-11 03:19 PM   #34 
     - I hope you didn't take what I said seriously  99th_Monkey   Oct-26-11 03:24 PM   #37 
        - I never miss that stuff.  Gregorian   Oct-26-11 05:24 PM   #82 
     - The Declaration of Independence is only meant for the top 1%  ooglymoogly   Oct-27-11 07:57 AM   #178 
     - Actually it was not meant even at the time for at least  efhmc   Oct-27-11 09:10 AM   #182 
     - Yah, it must have been "adopted" at some secret Bonesman ceremony at Bohemia Grove  99th_Monkey   Oct-27-11 11:20 PM   #224 
     - Yep. It's for the own good of the people, like Veteran Olsen himself.  Amonester   Oct-27-11 01:21 PM   #206 
  - SCREEN SHOT  kpete   Oct-26-11 02:57 PM   #15 
  - No words.  silverweb   Oct-26-11 02:59 PM   #16 
  - Do we have the original photo this closeup came from?  silverweb   Oct-26-11 03:10 PM   #25 
  - this?  kpete   Oct-26-11 03:17 PM   #29 
     - YES!  silverweb   Oct-26-11 03:21 PM   #35 
     - Just how sick do you have to be...  CoffeeCat   Oct-26-11 10:47 PM   #157 
  - He's GRINNING!!!  KamaAina   Oct-26-11 04:08 PM   # 
  - I do believe he's got wood from thinking about shooting someone.  plumbob   Oct-26-11 06:12 PM   #97 
  - I would like nothing more than to face off with him  fascisthunter   Oct-26-11 06:04 PM   #94 
  - I'm having a difficult time redirecting my utter contempt for these assholes.  EnviroBat   Oct-27-11 09:34 AM   #185 
  - With People Like This:  Fantastic Anarchist   Oct-27-11 12:47 PM   #203 
  - Don't worry, the 1% they adore will take charge of screwing 'em  Amonester   Oct-27-11 01:29 PM   #209 
  - I haven't. I'm pro-peace, but not a pacifist.  Fantastic Anarchist   Oct-27-11 12:30 PM   #201 
  - this is the face of a psychopath  fascisthunter   Oct-26-11 07:41 PM   #123 
  - incongruity?  unionworks   Oct-27-11 05:26 AM   #168 
  - OUTFUCKINGRAGEOUS!  Bozita   Oct-26-11 03:01 PM   #18 
  - And police intervention was supposed to be for health and safety reasons.  No Elephants   Oct-26-11 03:03 PM   #19 
  - Since there were no health and saftey reasons, they had to create their own.  Donny   Oct-26-11 03:17 PM   #30 
  - ... and imagine these Iraq/Afghanistan war vets have quite some stories to tell -- !!  defendandprotect   Oct-26-11 03:04 PM   #21 
  - new updates from Daily Mail (sorry if the pic upsets - we should be upset...)  kpete   Oct-26-11 03:23 PM   #36 
     - Crying, because his shirt, which is more clear in other photos  sabrina 1   Oct-26-11 03:30 PM   #43 
     - +1000% --- k/r for your post -- everyone should see and read this -- !!  defendandprotect   Oct-26-11 04:06 PM   #59 
     - Why is this being posted from the Daily Mail?  RebelOne   Oct-26-11 03:56 PM   #55 
     - Because we have to go the foreign media, even tabloids  sabrina 1   Oct-26-11 04:11 PM   #64 
     - After watching Aljazeera & Russia Today for sometime now for excellent news coverage, the  RKP5637   Oct-27-11 01:06 PM   #204 
        - Yes, RT has been especially good on OWS. But overall  sabrina 1   Oct-28-11 01:20 AM   #226 
     - It's also reliably right-wing.  geardaddy   Oct-27-11 01:44 PM   #218 
     - OMG, he was clearly identified as a military person by his clothing!!!  pacalo   Oct-26-11 04:59 PM   #74 
     - Oh man  Ahpook   Oct-26-11 05:25 PM   #84 
     - As a Marine Corps veteran and Veteran for Peace member!  Yon_Yonson   Oct-26-11 05:33 PM   #88 
     - K&R fo this brave young man... So sorry you had to come home after fighting for our country to  midnight   Oct-26-11 11:22 PM   #158 
  - It was only a matter of time  99th_Monkey   Oct-26-11 03:06 PM   #22 
  - now the shit hits the fan.  PatrynXX   Oct-26-11 03:08 PM   #24 
  - shades of Kent State shootings during Vietnam War; it turned the tide  wordpix   Oct-27-11 11:05 AM   #192 
  - They just crossed the line now  graywarrior   Oct-26-11 03:11 PM   #26 
  - They did cross the line, and it was predictable...  Goldstein1984   Oct-26-11 03:26 PM   #39 
  - These protestors are our family.  graywarrior   Oct-26-11 05:01 PM   #76 
  - Yes...  Goldstein1984   Oct-26-11 06:02 PM   #93 
     - The photo of the dead students at Kent State caused national outrage  graywarrior   Oct-26-11 06:12 PM   #96 
        - And there will be a lot more  Goldstein1984   Oct-26-11 06:49 PM   #106 
        - The second week of a general strike would be  socialist_n_TN   Oct-26-11 07:53 PM   #126 
        - The internet is already being censored, Google has had thousands  crunch60   Oct-26-11 08:50 PM   #133 
        - Let's not paint the devil on the wall  tama   Oct-27-11 11:38 AM   #197 
           - I think that's largely true  Goldstein1984   Oct-28-11 01:05 AM   #225 
        - it won't do a single thing to move the American sheeple.  provis99   Oct-26-11 07:03 PM   #110 
           - I think more idiots voice their opinions online  graywarrior   Oct-26-11 07:47 PM   #125 
           - I think a lot of that is paid/artificial noise.  a simple pattern   Oct-27-11 01:27 PM   #207 
  - Well spoken version of something Ghandi said.  tavalon   Oct-27-11 06:32 AM   #169 
  - I agree. This was beyond stupid and completely unnecessary.  Number23   Oct-26-11 10:26 PM   #153 
  - Survived two tours in Iraq only to be shot down like a dog in the streets  workinclasszero   Oct-26-11 03:12 PM   #27 
  - But I am sure he just one bad apple.....  truebrit71   Oct-26-11 03:13 PM   #28 
  - Oh thats coming  Ahpook   Oct-26-11 05:30 PM   #87 
  - The whole world is watching.  silverweb   Oct-26-11 03:17 PM   #31 
  - And to think we have been stepping into the protests in the ME to  jwirr   Oct-26-11 04:08 PM   #62 
     - Exactly.  silverweb   Oct-26-11 07:11 PM   #113 
  - Terrorists in police uniform. The worst kind.  RegieRocker   Oct-26-11 03:17 PM   #32 
  - I haven't said this in 20 years, but today it's appropriate  lark   Oct-26-11 03:18 PM   #33 
  - I totally agree.  bdamomma   Oct-27-11 07:46 AM   #175 
  - This Country is totally fucked up.  glinda   Oct-26-11 03:25 PM   #38 
  - I'm sure the white shirts will say, "Whoops. Shit happens." BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR THE 1%.  valerief   Oct-26-11 03:28 PM   #41 
  - exactly what my repug family member said during the BP Deepwater spew  wordpix   Oct-27-11 11:09 AM   #195 
  - Sending you thoughts of healing Scott.  Dont call me Shirley   Oct-26-11 03:29 PM   #42 
  - Support the troops? Sure. Until they come home. Sort of like  kestrel91316   Oct-26-11 03:35 PM   #46 
  - This Occupy Movement event is on the front page of BBC website  neoconn   Oct-26-11 03:37 PM   #47 
  - That was the case for the whole 8 years --  Hell Hath No Fury   Oct-26-11 03:49 PM   #51 
  - this is what the local and national RW radio blowhards are egging on and will excuse non-stop  certainot   Oct-26-11 03:38 PM   #48 
  - K&R for Scott Olsen  TBF   Oct-26-11 03:46 PM   #49 
  - sad. Hope he's ok  Liberal_in_LA   Oct-26-11 03:51 PM   #52 
  - Coward cops playing "soldiers' in our streets  Tsiyu   Oct-26-11 03:51 PM   #53 
  - yeah, and we the people are the ones paying them  newspeak   Oct-27-11 11:58 AM   #199 
  - Assholes.  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-26-11 03:55 PM   #54 
  - Really.  KamaAina   Oct-26-11 04:10 PM   #63 
  - Brown  johnson542   Oct-26-11 04:13 PM   #66 
  - Don't stop  johnson542   Oct-26-11 04:00 PM   #56 
  - DISGUSTING!!  LoisB   Oct-26-11 04:03 PM   #57 
  - I am reminded of Ruben Salazar  gort   Oct-26-11 04:04 PM   #58 
  - And I am reminded of People's Park victim James Rector...  FailureToCommunicate   Oct-26-11 06:37 PM   #103 
  - My thoughts are with you, Scott. Keith will be talking about this on Countdown tonight  DCofVA   Oct-26-11 04:08 PM   #60 
  - Sadly, there'll be more incidents like this  Plucketeer   Oct-26-11 04:08 PM   #61 
  - I am surprised the police are acting this way. They are one of the main  MasonJar   Oct-26-11 04:13 PM   #65 
  - these dumbnuts are 1 or 2 budget cuts away from being on the dole themselves  frylock   Oct-26-11 04:21 PM   #68 
  - +1 and they outght to read the news blogs and papers once in awhile  wordpix   Oct-27-11 11:07 AM   #194 
  - well there is in fact a percentage of "police" who are interested more in the authority than helping  pasto76   Oct-26-11 04:22 PM   #69 
     - As a former paramedic, I use to work closely with the police  DCofVA   Oct-26-11 04:33 PM   #70 
     - true  fascisthunter   Oct-26-11 06:32 PM   #101 
     - There is a percentage of police who *act out* their authoritarian impulses. However,  GliderGuider   Oct-26-11 05:00 PM   #75 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-26-11 05:09 PM   #78 
  - Sickening.  tropicanarose   Oct-26-11 04:16 PM   #67 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Oct-26-11 04:35 PM   #71 
  - Motherfuckers  tabasco   Oct-26-11 04:41 PM   #72 
  - OMG  eShirl   Oct-26-11 04:42 PM   #73 
  - As a memeber of Veterans For Peace, I am appalled that...  rasputin1952   Oct-26-11 05:08 PM   #77 
  - The cops like to shoot people in the head  GETPLANING   Oct-26-11 05:16 PM   #79 
  - Agreed: the cop and their superiors should be tried and locked away.  tcaudilllg   Oct-26-11 05:30 PM   #86 
  - I`m crying.  democrank   Oct-26-11 05:16 PM   #80 
  - I'm sure the republimonsters will celebrate  Joey Liberal   Oct-26-11 05:22 PM   #81 
  - It is increasingly clear......  Swede Atlanta    Oct-26-11 05:25 PM   #83 
  - Sorry, Hope and Change  crunch60   Oct-26-11 09:07 PM   #136 
  - The Fascist pigs are as bad as the Syrian Butcher, Assad.  olegramps   Oct-26-11 05:29 PM   #85 
  - Get well soon Steve... To the asses who did this, so he's just another hippie bum right?  riderinthestorm   Oct-26-11 05:51 PM   #89 
  - Kicked and recommended!  Enthusiast   Oct-26-11 05:51 PM   #90 
  - This young man may well survive this injury but end up  spicegal   Oct-26-11 05:57 PM   #91 
  - Devastate a Soldier .....and YOU G O DOWN! n/t  KoKo   Oct-26-11 05:58 PM   #92 
  - Scott Olsen: A hero overseas. A hero at home.  Octafish   Oct-26-11 06:11 PM   #95 
  - .  fascisthunter   Oct-26-11 06:34 PM   #102 
  - Truly sad news.,  civilisation   Oct-26-11 06:19 PM   #98 
  - Our thoughts and prayers are with you dear brother Scott  swilton   Oct-26-11 06:21 PM   #99 
  - Oakland PD and city officials have a hero's blood on their grimy  Bluenorthwest   Oct-26-11 06:39 PM   #104 
  - this is so sad ...Oakland Police used Rubber bullets  lovuian   Oct-26-11 06:49 PM   #105 
  - Totally peaceful assembly until the cops came  DaveJ   Oct-26-11 06:55 PM   #107 
  - Shit, meet fan.  Odin2005   Oct-26-11 07:01 PM   #108 
  - Sometimes ...  Matilda   Oct-26-11 07:02 PM   #109 
  - Those cops should be charged with attempted murder.  Zoeisright   Oct-26-11 07:06 PM   #111 
  - Fat chance.  RoccoR5955   Oct-26-11 07:22 PM   #118 
  - but, but...they were protecting the power structure, er, public  wordpix   Oct-27-11 11:07 AM   #193 
  - U.S. Marines Support the Occupy Movement  solarman350   Oct-26-11 07:07 PM   #112 
  - I believe that Marine vets, not the active duty  socialist_n_TN   Oct-26-11 08:03 PM   #127 
  - Semper Fi Marines ... just checking in from Occupy Madison  Yon_Yonson   Oct-27-11 08:45 AM   #181 
  - K & R &...  AzDar   Oct-26-11 07:12 PM   #115 
  - this could be a turning point  yurbud   Oct-26-11 07:13 PM   #116 
  - Police F'd up this , I tell ya!  proud patriot   Oct-26-11 07:15 PM   #117 
  - To borrow a phrase from the 60's - PIGS!  benld74   Oct-26-11 07:24 PM   #119 
  - YEP.... but it gives "pigs" a bad name....this is something new to OUR AGE!  KoKo   Oct-26-11 07:30 PM   #121 
     - Domestic cops. I like the way that sounds in the above article,  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Oct-26-11 10:18 PM   #152 
  - K & R  Raksha   Oct-26-11 07:27 PM   #120 
  - Here Ya' Go.. "Rubber Bullets are Safe" ...except WHEN THEY Maim and Threaten Life!  KoKo   Oct-26-11 07:31 PM   #122 
  - K&R +1000  Firebrand Gary   Oct-26-11 07:45 PM   #124 
  - Phony Soldier  DemOhio   Oct-26-11 08:05 PM   #128 
  - Type ":sarcasm:" When in the text field, it reads;  The Doctor.   Oct-26-11 09:50 PM   #146 
  - This requires a massive response and challenge by all Bay Area movement organizations.  Better Believe It   Oct-26-11 08:09 PM   #129 
  - Here's a DU video link with Olsen's roommate being interviews by Olbermann - VIDEO  Tx4obama   Oct-26-11 08:30 PM   #131 
  - The Mayor is responsible  burrowowl   Oct-26-11 08:32 PM   #132 
  - The flash-bang thrown at the people trying to help was pure sadistic evil.  DirkGently   Oct-26-11 09:02 PM   #134 
  - Absolutely disgraceful!!!  Beacool   Oct-26-11 09:06 PM   #135 
  - This is brutality in its purest form.  Muskypundit   Oct-26-11 09:08 PM   #137 
  - The police are being truly fucking stupid.  The Doctor.   Oct-26-11 09:09 PM   #138 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-26-11 09:24 PM   #140 
  - While I don't blame you, we really don't advocate for that. I think I can speak for  The Doctor.   Oct-26-11 10:06 PM   #147 
  - +262  StarsInHerHair   Oct-26-11 09:26 PM   #141 
  - This strikes close to home because he is a native of Onalaska, WI  elocs   Oct-26-11 09:36 PM   #143 
  - Outrageous...time for the 99% to take back the Police Militia Departments.  SoapBox   Oct-26-11 09:39 PM   #144 
  - Oh my god.  chill_wind   Oct-26-11 09:42 PM   #145 
  - Kick & Recommend  JohnnyRingo   Oct-26-11 10:07 PM   #148 
  - Fucking Jackbooted Thugs.  vanlassie   Oct-26-11 10:07 PM   #149 
  - Mayor Quan Contact info.. Her Voice Mail box is FULL!  sce56   Oct-26-11 10:11 PM   #150 
  - Thanks for the link.  fasttense   Oct-27-11 07:06 AM   #172 
  - good idea let her hear it.  bdamomma   Oct-27-11 07:54 AM   #177 
  - done, there are over 11,000 comments denouncing her and they're up on her site!  wordpix   Oct-27-11 11:13 AM   #196 
  - You think they give a shit ? They are on overtime....  russspeakeasy   Oct-26-11 10:12 PM   #151 
  - Do not make the mistake of thinking the police are on our side - they are the enemy of justice  scentopine   Oct-26-11 10:37 PM   #154 
  - .....................  bdamomma   Oct-27-11 07:58 AM   #179 
  - self delete - wrong post subject  peacetalksforall   Oct-26-11 10:43 PM   #155 
  - OWS--NYC Sending Protesters To Oakland// Oakland PD Were Assisted By Other Police Depts.  red dog 1   Oct-26-11 10:46 PM   #156 
  - I must have taken a wrong turn...  primavera   Oct-27-11 12:30 AM   #159 
  - I'm numb  postatomic   Oct-27-11 01:17 AM   #161 
  - re:POLICE CRITICALLY INJURE IRAQ WAR VET DURING OCCUPY MARCH  allan01   Oct-27-11 03:22 AM   #164 
  - Jerry Brown needs to be in the face of the Mayor and the Police Chief  AsahinaKimi   Oct-27-11 03:41 AM   #165 
  - The BASTARDS have silenced Scott  unionworks   Oct-27-11 03:54 AM   #166 
  - Somebody needs to fight for "Democracy" in the USA!  Hubert Flottz   Oct-27-11 06:50 AM   #170 
  - This picture brings the fuse incredibly close to the keg.  Dutchmaster   Oct-27-11 06:55 AM   #171 
  - This needs to be spread far and wide. Also, lawsuits are important. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Oct-27-11 07:13 AM   #173 
  - damn police  bdamomma   Oct-27-11 07:38 AM   #174 
  - Mob Mentality !  NikRik   Oct-27-11 07:51 AM   #176 
  - Should have been in Quan's "free speech area from 6 am to 10 pm"  DaveJ   Oct-27-11 08:13 AM   #180 
  - This Turns My Stomach. I am so sorry. : (  sandyj999   Oct-27-11 09:13 AM   #183 
  - Colossal Fail....  4_TN_TITANS   Oct-27-11 09:17 AM   #184 
  - This Is Not How It Is Suppose To Be. . .  Lovette   Oct-27-11 09:42 AM   #186 
  - So much for "support the troops"  FlyByNight   Oct-27-11 09:47 AM   #187 
  - This is f'ing INSANE  Mad_Dem_X   Oct-27-11 09:56 AM   #188 
  - It's not the USA I was born in ... n/t  RKP5637   Oct-27-11 01:08 PM   #205 
  - Sounds like some cops need to be charged with attempted murder.  blackspade   Oct-27-11 10:25 AM   #189 
  - News Speak  sulphurdunn   Oct-27-11 11:49 AM   #198 
  - But NPR is the liberal station  DemOhio   Oct-27-11 01:27 PM   #208 
  - Marine from Onalaska injured in protest in California  Evasporque   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #210 
  - How many even think of their career as service to society anymore?  tk2kewl   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #211 
  - You know with Veteran's Day coming up...  Blue Owl   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #212 
  - Don't read the comments to that article if you have a short fuse  14thColony   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #213 
  - He was bleeding from the nose and mouth when they carried him off.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #214 
  - lessons  bottom line   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #215 
  - This opened a shit storm on military web sites  Tempest   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #216 
     - Awesome :-) Thanks for your service to us.  Dont call me Shirley   Oct-27-11 01:31 PM   #217 
  - The police ARE USING VIOLENCE...  orbitalman   Oct-27-11 01:47 PM   #219 
  - Every dollar invested in Wall St  raouldukelives   Oct-27-11 02:18 PM   #220 
  - Sensational, but unconfirmed  Islandlife   Oct-27-11 09:23 PM   #223 
  - Bumping up the thread.  No Elephants   Oct-28-11 02:04 AM   #227 
 

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