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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 09:53 PM
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236. or the President insisted on conditions that he knew wouldn't be acceptable

resulting in both a departure and political cover for both sides.

Please feel free to pick the most possible anti Obama interpretation if it makes you feel better.
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  -BREAKING President Obama Will Announce Today Complete Drawdown of US Troops in Iraq to Zero By End Guy Whitey Corngood  Oct-21-11 11:32 AM   #0 
  - K & R. n/t  FSogol   Oct-21-11 11:33 AM   #1 
  - Big thank you to the Iraqi Parliament, which refused Obama/Panetta's begging to have  Divernan   Oct-21-11 03:05 PM   #153 
     - Right, Obama's still evil, got it.  The Doctor.   Oct-21-11 04:14 PM   #174 
     - Who's in charge?  zipplewrath   Oct-21-11 04:31 PM   #175 
     - The President, I regret to inform you, is not a dictator.  The Doctor.   Oct-21-11 05:39 PM   #194 
        - Are you suggesting that the President let Panetta and company  Vattel   Oct-21-11 08:43 PM   #226 
        - Apparently, I'm not the one that had 'no idea how things work'.  The Doctor.   Oct-21-11 09:38 PM   #234 
        - He didn't withdraw our troops, they were kicked out.  Bluesbreaker   Oct-22-11 12:09 AM   #253 
        - Yes, because he so very obviously wanted to stay. Right?  The Doctor.   Oct-22-11 02:14 AM   #256 
        - Good points! ny.  disndat   Oct-22-11 12:05 PM   #270 
     - Silly me! Here I thought Panetta reported to Obama.  Divernan   Oct-21-11 06:57 PM   #206 
        - You're late to the party. The exchange is already over. Scroll up.  The Doctor.   Oct-21-11 07:27 PM   #212 
     - it is about time  lovuian   Oct-21-11 05:14 PM   #186 
     - +1  onpatrol98   Oct-21-11 11:06 PM   #243 
     - Of course that's completely bullshit, but then, I imagine you knew that.  TheWraith   Oct-21-11 05:27 PM   #193 
     - Wanna hear a joke?  The Doctor.   Oct-21-11 05:41 PM   #195 
     - Since when the fuck do we care what the Iraqi Parliament says anyhow?  Grown2Hate   Oct-21-11 08:19 PM   #223 
  - I am glad to hear this.  TwilightGardener   Oct-21-11 11:35 AM   #2 
  - About time we hear good news  Harmony Blue   Oct-21-11 11:35 AM   #3 
  - Let's just enjoy this victory for a moment  Skip_In_Boulder   Oct-21-11 12:12 PM   #38 
  - OK Skip, I'm in.  Lasher   Oct-21-11 12:57 PM   #81 
  - me, too. Baby steps  wordpix   Oct-21-11 02:24 PM   #129 
  - Well I think I am going to let it run  Skip_In_Boulder   Oct-21-11 03:14 PM   #158 
  - Is that both US soldiers and Pentagon-paid mercenaries....  Raster   Oct-21-11 02:29 PM   #132 
  - Fuck that. People are dying. n/t  leeroysphitz   Oct-21-11 03:47 PM   #168 
  - Well no shit Sherlock  Skip_In_Boulder   Oct-21-11 04:10 PM   #172 
  - Count me in on that!  calimary   Oct-21-11 05:22 PM   #190 
  - One step at a time n/t  lillypaddle   Oct-21-11 12:31 PM   #63 
  - Yes, lets not go too far too fast  Gamow   Oct-21-11 01:11 PM   #90 
     - Okay, you made me Google.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:25 PM   #100 
        - "This is more important than re-election, I want to speak now"  Gamow   Oct-21-11 01:49 PM   #115 
  - Ending war makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.  FarLeftFist   Oct-21-11 02:11 PM   #125 
  - No more iraq - no more libya. WTG Mr. President. n/t  deacon   Oct-21-11 11:36 AM   #4 
  - I wish it were that easy. The current Middle East situation puts me in mind of the dog who  razorman   Oct-21-11 12:04 PM   #34 
  - That's a fair concern.  The Doctor.   Oct-21-11 05:43 PM   #197 
  - Iran is a pretty good prior example of meddling.  sofa king   Oct-21-11 08:47 PM   #228 
  - Yeah, both of those used to be countries.  harmonicon   Oct-22-11 09:42 AM   #264 
  - K&R!!! n/t  RKP5637   Oct-21-11 11:36 AM   #5 
  - I know many will likely just be re-assigned to other hot spots  Lucinda   Oct-21-11 11:36 AM   #6 
  - I like this one  Kingofalldems   Oct-21-11 11:37 AM   #7 
  - NEVER ever be silent again. NO!! BLOOD!! FOR OIL!!!  patrice   Oct-21-11 11:37 AM   #8 
  - We weren't silent before the Iraq invasion. We were actively ignored by the corporate media.  Liberal Veteran   Oct-21-11 11:52 AM   #19 
  - I know. I was there 6 times to add my voice to 100s of thousands of others & organized busses to  patrice   Oct-21-11 12:03 PM   #31 
  - Yep.  NOLALady   Oct-21-11 12:38 PM   #70 
  - Indeed, and remember how  Puget Progressive   Oct-21-11 12:18 PM   #47 
  - 6 million people worldwide is a "focus group". 10 teabaggers is "populist uprising".  Liberal Veteran   Oct-21-11 12:26 PM   #60 
  - Media ignoring protest brought to mind: Charlie King's "Vaguely  FailureToCommunicate   Oct-21-11 12:25 PM   #57 
  - How about before the Afghanistan "surge?" Were we silent then, or not?  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:33 PM   #107 
     - "They" did a great job of Muddying the Waters before the Afghanistan "Surge".  bvar22   Oct-22-11 12:50 PM   #272 
  - Uh, you must have missed the MILLIONS of people marching before and after the war.  valerief   Oct-21-11 12:19 PM   #51 
     - No. I marched with them. My post addresses those who weren't marching + all other times & situations  patrice   Oct-21-11 12:50 PM   #74 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-21-11 11:37 AM   #9 
  - Read the fine print before buying  Demeter   Oct-21-11 11:38 AM   #10 
  - Well there's the mercenary issue and I'm sure some others as well. nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Oct-21-11 11:39 AM   #11 
  - Wonder how many 'advisors' we will be leaving there?  n2doc   Oct-21-11 11:51 AM   #18 
  - I saw a report of 15,000 in the Embasy Palace we built there..+ there are contractors...  KoKo   Oct-21-11 11:58 AM   #25 
  - Does this lower the amount we are spending?  harun   Oct-21-11 12:38 PM   #71 
  - Nothing seems to lower that--just as wars no longer seem to rescue the economy.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:31 PM   #105 
  - Hah!  DeSwiss   Oct-21-11 02:59 PM   #150 
  - You'd think, but half of infinity is still... inifinity. n/t  Beartracks   Oct-21-11 08:55 PM   #229 
  - The idea that a security/business apparatus would completely leave Iraq is ridiculous....  SadPanda   Oct-21-11 06:50 PM   #205 
  - Will they just be moving them to Afghanistan??  and-justice-for-all   Oct-21-11 11:40 AM   #12 
  - afghanistan is central asia  pasto76   Oct-21-11 11:48 AM   #16 
  - Technically, Afghanistan is the middle-east.  RaleighNCDUer   Oct-21-11 12:19 PM   #52 
  - Gotta love the terms we use for what is geographically Southwest Asia... n/t  backscatter712   Oct-21-11 12:21 PM   #53 
  - It seems to depend on who taught us and when.  JDPriestly   Oct-21-11 12:55 PM   #79 
  - Syria is definitely not North Africa.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:10 PM   #88 
     - Back then, we learned WWII geography. I don't think our teachers  JDPriestly   Oct-21-11 03:24 PM   #162 
  - According to about.com, the ME is comprised of 23 countries, some  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:18 PM   #95 
  - Wars didnt influence elections?  alp227   Oct-21-11 05:41 PM   #196 
  - Or Iran?  JDPriestly   Oct-21-11 12:51 PM   #75 
     - Heaven forfend (whatever that means)  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:04 PM   #85 
  - I'll believe it when I see it.  Crowman1979   Oct-21-11 11:41 AM   #13 
  - clearly, this is not fast enough  entropic   Oct-21-11 11:47 AM   #14 
  - Great! And can you imagine how the War Hawk types, McCain, FakeNoose, GOPBaggers...  SoapBox   Oct-21-11 11:47 AM   #15 
  - And still they doubt. "Ill believe it when I see it." Wow.  Muskypundit   Oct-21-11 11:50 AM   #17 
  - Agreed. There comes a point where cynicism becomes pathological.  Liberal Veteran   Oct-21-11 11:55 AM   #21 
  - Kind of like when he went on TV and said Gulf shrimp was safe to eat?  Arctic Dave   Oct-21-11 11:59 AM   #26 
  - And drones.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:21 PM   #97 
  - No?  quakerboy   Oct-21-11 02:55 PM   #147 
  - 160 embassy guards. Now, I know you dont like Obama guys, but he would have given himself  Muskypundit   Oct-21-11 05:24 PM   #191 
     - You know?  quakerboy   Oct-21-11 08:13 PM   #221 
  - +1 Me too. I have criticized this POTUS quite a bit recently, but this deserves our  AllyCat   Oct-21-11 06:19 PM   #202 
  - There's no such thing as too much skepticism.  RandomKoolzip   Oct-23-11 09:34 AM   #281 
  - That's great news. K&R nt  TBF   Oct-21-11 11:53 AM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-21-11 11:56 AM   #22 
  - Yep....that's the devil in the details we won't hear for awhile. Drone Strikes..  KoKo   Oct-21-11 12:00 PM   #27 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-21-11 12:05 PM   #35 
     - Speak for yourself -- sheep eom  Kolesar   Oct-21-11 12:14 PM   #42 
     - Right.  NOLALady   Oct-21-11 12:31 PM   #64 
     - Baaaa.  Itchinjim   Oct-21-11 12:54 PM   #78 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-21-11 01:10 PM   #89 
           - Tell it!  stillrockin   Oct-21-11 01:45 PM   #113 
  - Name a scenario where the U.S. government would use predator drones  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-21-11 12:51 PM   #76 
  - Is this vague enough?  OnyxCollie   Oct-21-11 01:14 PM   #93 
     - Yes it was.  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-21-11 01:26 PM   #102 
     - Do you think an "Arab spring" type movement  OnyxCollie   Oct-21-11 01:31 PM   #106 
     - Yeah, and humans could be ruled by androids at some point.  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-21-11 02:54 PM   #146 
        - Like reacting without hyperbole?  OnyxCollie   Oct-21-11 03:07 PM   #154 
     - The vague a law is, the more those in authority like it because it gives them all the  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:51 PM   #144 
        - Except this is an executive order, not a law. nt  OnyxCollie   Oct-21-11 03:11 PM   #155 
     - According to Mayor Menino, Occupy Boston was damaging thousands of dollars worth of plantings  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:48 PM   #114 
        - Nixon declared a postal strike to be a national emergency.  OnyxCollie   Oct-21-11 01:52 PM   #116 
           - Not surprised. And Nixon is to the left of many of today's Democrats.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:24 PM   #130 
  - Good points, Small Family Farmer. Excellent.  JDPriestly   Oct-21-11 12:56 PM   #80 
  - Don't apologize. You have as much right to voice your views and feelings as anyone else does.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:40 PM   #108 
  - At last !!!! GOBAMA  Autumn   Oct-21-11 11:56 AM   #23 
  - Gobama is what the Iraqi parliament told him & Panetta!  Divernan   Oct-21-11 03:34 PM   #164 
     - Well he did say  Autumn   Oct-21-11 05:07 PM   #185 
        - LOL.  bvar22   Oct-22-11 12:57 PM   #273 
  - Not to be a downer, because lord knows, I support Obama, but  graywarrior   Oct-21-11 11:57 AM   #24 
  - Who knows? Many here on DU have made the accusation that Iraq was "war for oil".  razorman   Oct-21-11 12:15 PM   #43 
  - I seem to recall that 3 major oil companies went there right after the first part  graywarrior   Oct-21-11 12:25 PM   #59 
  - I think the oil COMPANIES are benefitting, they weren't concerned  gateley   Oct-21-11 01:42 PM   #110 
  - Executive Order 13303  OnyxCollie   Oct-21-11 02:02 PM   #120 
  - Read "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast.  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-21-11 05:19 PM   #188 
  - It's not cheap oil, it's any oil  tavalon   Oct-21-11 07:35 PM   #214 
  - It's world history. It has always been this way. Always will be.  razorman   Oct-21-11 07:45 PM   #215 
     - I know  tavalon   Oct-22-11 09:11 AM   #260 
  - The oil was for the oil companies.  Jamastiene   Oct-22-11 12:03 AM   #252 
  - Pffft who said the oil was supposed to be for you to buy cheaply? Don't be silly.  Ash_F   Oct-22-11 05:17 PM   #279 
  - new contracts, oil fields being rebuilt, and more exploration for new fields  madrchsod   Oct-21-11 04:43 PM   #179 
     - Does that mean gas prices will go down?  graywarrior   Oct-21-11 05:43 PM   #198 
        - On paper, it means yes, they should go down  SadPanda   Oct-21-11 06:58 PM   #207 
           - Thank you for your rational response  graywarrior   Oct-21-11 07:48 PM   #217 
  - Certainly OWS isn't suppoting war and trust this is happening in some part....  defendandprotect   Oct-21-11 12:00 PM   #28 
  - K&R  BumRushDaShow   Oct-21-11 12:01 PM   #29 
  - Great News  mactime   Oct-21-11 12:01 PM   #30 
  - Good Potential News! K & R n/t  xocet   Oct-21-11 12:04 PM   #32 
  - I am really curious about the contractors  rurallib   Oct-21-11 12:04 PM   #33 
  - Here's a Wiki link on that.  go west young man   Oct-21-11 12:16 PM   #44 
     - Always remember: One of the signers of the PNAC memo was also a founder of the  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 01:57 PM   #117 
  - Good on ya, Mr. P.  FedUp_Queer   Oct-21-11 12:06 PM   #36 
  - yes.  barbtries   Oct-21-11 12:10 PM   #37 
  - Pshaw. There's no money in peace. What are you a communist?  FedUp_Queer   Oct-21-11 12:13 PM   #40 
     - pacifist  barbtries   Oct-21-11 12:19 PM   #50 
  - Lovely  BeyondGeography   Oct-21-11 12:12 PM   #39 
  - Good news. I wonder where the 2 billion a week will be redirected. nt  valerief   Oct-21-11 12:14 PM   #41 
  - It will probably be used to deal with the Iraqi refugees that flee to avoid the slaughter,  razorman   Oct-21-11 12:21 PM   #54 
     - Iran isn't moving in  Harmony Blue   Oct-21-11 12:22 PM   #55 
     - Wait till Muqtada al-Sadr gets his grove on.  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-21-11 12:58 PM   #82 
     - So it'll still go to the war profiteers. nt  valerief   Oct-21-11 12:28 PM   #61 
  - Only because Iraq wanted us to leave! Had enough US democracy!  dmosh42   Oct-21-11 12:16 PM   #45 
  - How many mercenaries will be left there? How many employees of Xe (formerly Blackwater)?  truthisfreedom   Oct-21-11 12:16 PM   #46 
  - Also, will the Iraqi government have any jurisdiction over them? nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Oct-21-11 12:19 PM   #49 
  - A very many  Cherchez la Femme   Oct-21-11 01:05 PM   #87 
     - Sharia Law, in its entirety, was incorporated by reference into the Iraqi Constitution when  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:07 PM   #123 
  - Back on the 15th it was announced and there was a lot of naysayers...  Historic NY   Oct-21-11 12:19 PM   #48 
  - Earlier there were threads by those in 'the know' that they were informed  grantcart   Oct-21-11 07:17 PM   #210 
     - Exactly...my point.  Historic NY   Oct-21-11 07:25 PM   #211 
  - Question  Puget Progressive   Oct-21-11 12:23 PM   #56 
  - Oh no, Terrorists will be breaking down your door in a few months!  Beavker   Oct-21-11 12:25 PM   #58 
  - Yeehaw!  lillypaddle   Oct-21-11 12:30 PM   #62 
  - Thank you, Mr. President!  tex-wyo-dem   Oct-21-11 12:32 PM   #65 
  - Yay!  Enthusiast   Oct-21-11 12:34 PM   #66 
  - Bush SOFA retread.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-21-11 12:36 PM   #67 
  - He could have disregarded Bush's SOFA. Were you hoping he would?  AtomicKitten   Oct-21-11 01:17 PM   #94 
  - Of course, he could have disregarded an agreement between the U.S. and Iraq. WTF?  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:38 PM   #140 
     - He could have renegotiated the withdrawal date but didn't. 'kay?  AtomicKitten   Oct-21-11 03:11 PM   #156 
        - They tried but ran into immunity problems.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-22-11 08:18 AM   #258 
           - Are you cranky that the Iraq war is over and Obama might get some credit for it?  AtomicKitten   Oct-22-11 10:54 AM   #267 
              - He's going out on Chimp's timeline.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-22-11 04:16 PM   #276 
                 - Who cares? That's such a weak point.  AtomicKitten   Oct-22-11 04:41 PM   #278 
                    - Try this to help your understanding:  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-23-11 08:31 AM   #280 
                       - Pres Obama could have argued the Bush's SOFA needed Congressional approval.  AtomicKitten   Oct-23-11 12:51 PM   #284 
                          - Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-23-11 04:32 PM   #285 
                             - So we agree his hands were not tied and the war will finally be over. Hooray!  AtomicKitten   Oct-23-11 05:02 PM   #286 
                                - Hooray!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-24-11 01:11 PM   #288 
  - Bush is a brillian C-in-C  mdmc   Oct-21-11 01:21 PM   #96 
  - What a magical moment. We discovered Bush's skill. Ducking stuff thrown at him.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:20 PM   #127 
  - This was about all the accountability we'll ever likely see..I love that video, lol.  Jefferson23   Oct-21-11 09:52 PM   #235 
  - About damn time. But what about Afghanistan?  Initech   Oct-21-11 12:36 PM   #68 
  - 7 !/2 years after "Mission Accomplished" is it finally accomplished?  qb   Oct-21-11 12:36 PM   #69 
  - Not really. But Iraq asked us to leave.  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:30 PM   #133 
  - Does that include private contractors? n/t  cui bono   Oct-21-11 12:49 PM   #72 
  - GW Bush made this arrangement with Iraq in 2008  _ed_   Oct-21-11 12:49 PM   #73 
  - That is correct. Obama is following through on a timetable already put in place  totodeinhere   Oct-21-11 01:12 PM   #91 
     - Right  _ed_   Oct-21-11 01:24 PM   #99 
        - Because you haven't known about it for 3 years, you were hoping it would for 3 years.  FarLeftFist   Oct-21-11 10:11 PM   #238 
  - They'll be withdrawing the troops - through Iran  NewJeffCT   Oct-21-11 12:52 PM   #77 
  - This is definately good news.  aquamarina   Oct-21-11 01:03 PM   #83 
  - K&R.  young but wise   Oct-21-11 01:03 PM   #84 
  - How many mercenaries will be left? Just asking. n/t  truth2power   Oct-21-11 01:04 PM   #86 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Oct-21-11 01:13 PM   #92 
  - Believe it when I see it. Now get out of Afghanistan. nt  humblebum   Oct-21-11 01:23 PM   #98 
  - Diane Rehm had an interesting guest today ...  Myrina   Oct-21-11 01:26 PM   #101 
  - Will taxpayers $ follow the troops or stay there for the  nineteen50   Oct-21-11 01:27 PM   #103 
  - Good.  Iggo   Oct-21-11 01:28 PM   #104 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Oct-21-11 01:40 PM   #109 
  - I'm glad they will all be leaving Iraq  Marrah_G   Oct-21-11 01:42 PM   #111 
  - Halliburton & over 200 other corporations, weapons makers , oil corporations hate seeing war end....  GreenTea   Oct-21-11 01:45 PM   #112 
  - Uh, not really. Now the government will just being paying the same  Xtraneous   Oct-21-11 06:47 PM   #204 
     - Some proof DoD is faced with shrinking budget...  fortyfeetunder   Oct-23-11 10:58 AM   #282 
  - K&R! Great news and long past time! Breaking on MSNBC...  Rhiannon12866   Oct-21-11 01:58 PM   #118 
  - The sound you just heard  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Oct-21-11 01:58 PM   #119 
  - They are losing momentum fast  Harmony Blue   Oct-21-11 02:05 PM   #121 
  - Not fer nuttin', but the Bush tax cuts expired December 2010. We are now operating under the Obama  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:46 PM   #141 
  - Yeah, but you can always hear that.  a simple pattern   Oct-21-11 03:16 PM   #159 
  - please tell me they are not going to take them to iran  reggie the dog   Oct-21-11 02:05 PM   #122 
  - Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  demigoddess   Oct-21-11 02:11 PM   #124 
  - What are the troops coming home to?  dotymed   Oct-21-11 02:15 PM   #126 
  - Who said they were "coming home? "Out of Iraq" does not necessarily mean "Into the U.S."  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:48 PM   #142 
  - Awesome. Getting the re-election ducks in a row.  AtheistCrusader   Oct-21-11 02:22 PM   #128 
  - out of Iraq, out of Afghanistan & tell the MIC + oil corpos: never again  wordpix   Oct-21-11 02:27 PM   #131 
  - Finally-but still have a gigantic embassy there  katty   Oct-21-11 02:31 PM   #134 
  - We've been there longer than we were in WWII, Why? So Cheney and the BFEE  diane in sf   Oct-21-11 02:32 PM   #135 
  - Thank you, Mr. President  Mad_Dem_X   Oct-21-11 02:33 PM   #136 
  - Eeeek! The President is soft on Terra!  progressoid   Oct-21-11 02:33 PM   #137 
  - Has he even SEEN the show yet?  Ken Burch   Oct-21-11 02:54 PM   #145 
  - Thank God it's election season. n/t  Admiral Loinpresser   Oct-21-11 02:34 PM   #138 
  - This is great news BUT  KILL THE WISE ONE   Oct-21-11 02:35 PM   #139 
  - Do you have a more specific suggestion about what we might do that would  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 02:58 PM   #149 
     - anything you can think of  KILL THE WISE ONE   Oct-21-11 03:01 PM   #152 
  - Good. Now all the rest.  plumbob   Oct-21-11 02:48 PM   #143 
  - This is great news.  Renew Deal   Oct-21-11 02:57 PM   #148 
  - Another promise kept. Despite the nastiness here and on other sites,  ecstatic   Oct-21-11 02:59 PM   #151 
  - You do realize this is late  zipplewrath   Oct-21-11 04:33 PM   #176 
  - Excellent News. 1 down, 1 to go  LittleGirl   Oct-21-11 03:13 PM   #157 
  - We tried our best to get Iraq to agree to our leaving troops there beyond the date agreed to by Bush  No Elephants   Oct-21-11 03:16 PM   #160 
  - Yeah, that's pretty much my take as well. nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Oct-21-11 03:23 PM   #161 
  - Here's hoping ther Iraqi People find a path to a good form of governance for themsleves.  Ikonoklast   Oct-21-11 03:27 PM   #163 
  - Breaking! Obama  obxhead   Oct-21-11 03:44 PM   #165 
  - There are steps and phases to getting out of this monumental mess Bush started.  DCBob   Oct-21-11 03:50 PM   #169 
     - Lol. Well-done, indeed.  Vattel   Oct-21-11 08:39 PM   #225 
        - You totally fail to understand any GOPer President would have ignored that deadline..  DCBob   Oct-21-11 08:46 PM   #227 
           - Exactly. That's why GWB never made any...  YvonneCa   Oct-21-11 11:29 PM   #245 
  - Not believing this - they will put them somewhere else - usa is a killing machine  2Design   Oct-21-11 03:47 PM   #166 
  - very good news indeed. I think I had a bet with someone on this issue,,  DCBob   Oct-21-11 03:47 PM   #167 
  - Excuse me, how does this dovetail with what Leon Panetta has said?  MrMickeysMom   Oct-21-11 03:56 PM   #170 
  - Two smooth moves by the Prez. First, allowing the GOP to show  savannah43   Oct-21-11 04:05 PM   #171 
  - I'm in, and to tell the truth  onethatcares   Oct-21-11 04:11 PM   #173 
  - Oh look, it must be campaign season.  coyote   Oct-21-11 04:39 PM   #177 
  - all those troops coming home by christmas  madrchsod   Oct-21-11 04:41 PM   #178 
  - Obama is the man!!! This is the change that we were promised in 2008.  Major Hogwash   Oct-21-11 04:51 PM   #180 
  - Finally  lsewpershad   Oct-21-11 04:54 PM   #181 
  - Finally  lsewpershad   Oct-21-11 04:54 PM   #182 
  - Finally, and thanks to all my DU friends who marched with me in 2002-03. Lest we forget.  Faygo Kid   Oct-21-11 04:59 PM   #183 
  - Thank you Jesus!  workinclasszero   Oct-21-11 05:01 PM   #184 
  - Add me to the list of people wondering about private contractors  Cal Carpenter   Oct-21-11 05:18 PM   #187 
  - Wait, didn't Bush set that dealine?  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-21-11 05:21 PM   #189 
  - Bush would have broken it if he were still in office.  DCBob   Oct-21-11 07:57 PM   #218 
     - How do you know that?  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-21-11 09:04 PM   #230 
        - wild guess.  DCBob   Oct-21-11 09:12 PM   #232 
        - ...  YvonneCa   Oct-21-11 11:32 PM   #247 
        - Hold on to that...  YvonneCa   Oct-21-11 11:31 PM   #246 
           - What fantasy?  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-22-11 09:29 AM   #262 
              - Bush was highly....  YvonneCa   Oct-22-11 02:49 PM   #275 
  - Finally doing the bare minimum. Best Prezident EVAR!!!  BlueIris   Oct-21-11 05:25 PM   #192 
  - Did he bring all you motherfuckers donuts too?  thelordofhell   Oct-21-11 06:00 PM   #199 
  - Cool. Now what are they going to do with the permanent US military  junior college   Oct-21-11 06:01 PM   #200 
  - I have removed the Endless(this) war sticker from my car today  AllyCat   Oct-21-11 06:16 PM   #201 
  - Seriously, how many people are still waiting around on a pony?  SadPanda   Oct-21-11 06:45 PM   #203 
  - This is a good start!  PhoenixAbove   Oct-21-11 07:01 PM   #208 
  - And Republicans weep  SHRED   Oct-21-11 07:14 PM   #209 
  - Who is going to run the base?  tavalon   Oct-21-11 07:31 PM   #213 
  - The state dept runs the embassy, the bases are shut down  bhikkhu   Oct-21-11 08:00 PM   #219 
     - A well run Three Card Monty is still, in the end, a scam  tavalon   Oct-22-11 09:10 AM   #259 
        - Well, we'll know by Dec 31st, when its scheduled to be finished  bhikkhu   Oct-22-11 01:15 PM   #274 
  - a great move! but, from what I've read, the private XE type wannabe-army remains. not good.  Divine Discontent   Oct-21-11 07:46 PM   #216 
  - What also remains are the US AID type projects that require security to function safely.  DCBob   Oct-21-11 08:21 PM   #224 
  - Thank you, Mr. President  riverwalker   Oct-21-11 08:10 PM   #220 
  - To be on the record: This is good news - & it ain't for McCain  66 dmhlt   Oct-21-11 08:15 PM   #222 
  - Great news, although we're not really leaving voluntarily  RufusTFirefly   Oct-21-11 09:12 PM   #231 
  - or the President insisted on conditions that he knew wouldn't be acceptable  grantcart   Oct-21-11 09:53 PM   #236 
     - That was my first thought also.  NOLALady   Oct-21-11 10:14 PM   #239 
     - Yes, I was thinking along those lines too. Also, gives him cover with the military.  DCBob   Oct-21-11 10:32 PM   #240 
     - This is a day to celebrate...  YvonneCa   Oct-21-11 11:35 PM   #249 
     - No one including FOX isn't going to argue that US military should serve  grantcart   Oct-22-11 01:23 AM   #255 
     - Homerun! n/t  YvonneCa   Oct-21-11 11:33 PM   #248 
  - And contractors and funding? What about that... Who cares if it's "the millitary"  Fearless   Oct-21-11 09:29 PM   #233 
  - I thought this day would come when they proved DimSon a liar - years  Laura PourMeADrink   Oct-21-11 10:10 PM   #237 
  - What about Poland?  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-21-11 10:37 PM   #241 
  - Meaning it is time to start war with Iran?  ozone_man   Oct-21-11 11:02 PM   #242 
  - Today a very important story was in the paper.  woo me with science   Oct-21-11 11:06 PM   #244 
  - END IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Taverner   Oct-21-11 11:45 PM   #250 
  - Aha... the election must be near!  Quantess   Oct-21-11 11:48 PM   #251 
  - great!  southmost   Oct-22-11 12:19 AM   #254 
  - I like it, except the State Department will have a private army there.  caseymoz   Oct-22-11 04:03 AM   #257 
  - Of course. The American Empire must defend its borders. And our borders are vast.  yardwork   Oct-22-11 09:17 AM   #261 
     - Our spiritual borders. And our spirit is huge. We're Americans. nt  caseymoz   Oct-22-11 11:35 AM   #269 
  - The Obama Administration, unable to wrangle favorable legal concessions, reluctantly...  Umbral   Oct-22-11 09:37 AM   #263 
  - Awesome News! (nt)  fascisthunter   Oct-22-11 10:06 AM   #265 
  - Well gee. We must be broke and out of kids. No wonder I see regular protests at the abortion  lonestarnot   Oct-22-11 10:22 AM   #266 
  - K&R  davidwparker   Oct-22-11 11:21 AM   #268 
  - Celebrating at my house today.  bvar22   Oct-22-11 12:39 PM   #271 
  - Good, now Afghanistan.  Ash_F   Oct-22-11 04:38 PM   #277 
  - Great news! I give him credit  mvd   Oct-23-11 12:00 PM   #283 
  - About time he did something right.  Vidar   Oct-23-11 09:13 PM   #287 
 

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