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Fri Oct-14-11 10:58 AM
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| 142. not just kicking down doors |
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but murdering innocent people. I lent a book out to a friend (didn't get it back) about stories of people who were killed because of drug busts. One woman on her knees in front of her small child and niece was shot in front of them. Two stories I remember in california. One, an elderly man who had just had eye surgery, apparently heard a break in, it was the cops, they shot him. The other man in Stockton, gave his address to a young man to use for his DL, the young man was busted for MJ. He didn't know who was busting down his door, had his gun, thought they were intruders, shot him dead. Both, cases there were no drugs. I bet the war on drugs have killed more innocent people than MJ.
Oh, the elderly well to do guy, the cops said the helicopter spotted MJ in his backyard. No MJ!!!!!!
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| -We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies |
meow2u3 |
Oct-13-11 09:55 AM |
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It isnt just New York City. |
Scruffy1 |
Oct-13-11 10:01 AM |
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Yes it does.... |
midnight |
Oct-13-11 10:38 AM |
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Yes, 60 Minutes had an episode covering false drug arrests in Tulia, Texas sometime back |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-13-11 11:11 AM |
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I lived in Brooklyn 30 years ago and |
RoccoR5955 |
Oct-13-11 02:01 PM |
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And in more than just drug cases, too |
jmowreader |
Oct-13-11 05:08 PM |
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first damned thing I thought too. I know there's drugballs all over, yes, but... |
Divine Discontent |
Oct-13-11 07:40 PM |
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+100 Exactly |
Xicano |
Oct-13-11 08:53 PM |
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Yep. |
DeSwiss |
Oct-13-11 09:06 PM |
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With this detectives statement shouldn't all minor drug offenders be released? |
sarcasmo |
Oct-13-11 10:03 AM |
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for the most part |
blueknight |
Oct-13-11 10:05 AM |
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What do you expect? They are trained as liars from day one. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Oct-13-11 10:17 AM |
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Quite a broad brush you're painting with. |
SnowCritter |
Oct-13-11 10:52 AM |
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Well you know DU |
trumad |
Oct-13-11 12:17 PM |
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The ones that aren't pigs are still protecting the ones that are. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-13-11 12:30 PM |
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Which, in my opinion, |
ronnie624 |
Oct-14-11 01:34 AM |
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The good cops cover for the bad cops. |
Iggo |
Oct-13-11 01:54 PM |
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Your brush is broader and better |
liberation |
Oct-13-11 02:02 PM |
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Every narc is a liar and a fraud. |
theaocp |
Oct-13-11 02:55 PM |
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To the extent ANY of them perpetuate the "blue wall of silence" ... |
markpkessinger |
Oct-13-11 02:58 PM |
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Speaking from personal experience and dating back to my teen years I am firmly in the corner of, |
Citizen Worker |
Oct-13-11 03:36 PM |
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only because |
blueknight |
Oct-13-11 06:36 PM |
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"they're the most honest and forthright people you'll ever meet...." |
Dennis Donovan |
Oct-13-11 05:11 PM |
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I know, eh? What clownish thinking. |
provis99 |
Oct-13-11 08:44 PM |
#113 |
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That's right. |
ronnie624 |
Oct-14-11 01:38 AM |
#129 |
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That doesn't make sense to me |
Juche |
Oct-13-11 05:45 PM |
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LOL. |
tabasco |
Oct-13-11 07:11 PM |
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Just wondering your relation with them |
ArcticFox |
Oct-13-11 07:34 PM |
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My father worked with the police for many years and eventually became a part time cop. |
1monster |
Oct-13-11 08:55 PM |
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Correct! As a trivial example, I got pulled over a few years back... |
Prana69 |
Oct-13-11 11:01 PM |
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Something like that happened to me too |
walerosco |
Oct-14-11 12:22 AM |
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I think the fact that our police force doesn't act like Central America's |
caseymoz |
Oct-13-11 11:59 AM |
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I would care to distinquish that |
Newest Reality |
Oct-13-11 10:15 AM |
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You lost me. Rehabilitation of corrupt cops is what's called for. The people DIDN'T USE DRUGS |
saras |
Oct-13-11 10:24 AM |
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That was an aside in response to post #2, if that helps. |
Newest Reality |
Oct-13-11 10:33 AM |
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I get they were framed. The drug laws need changed. |
sarcasmo |
Oct-13-11 11:47 AM |
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In other words, drugs YOU approve of. |
Dutchmaster |
Oct-13-11 04:40 PM |
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Your logic is, "it's bad because it's really illegal otherwise it wouldn't be really illegal |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 04:05 AM |
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i know from first hand use that you can use the drugs you listed |
reggie the dog |
Oct-14-11 07:36 AM |
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Everything happening last week, and this week, in California |
truedelphi |
Oct-13-11 02:12 PM |
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"even despite the electoral wishes of an entire populace" |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 02:59 PM |
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I was prepared to have to fight one of the |
truedelphi |
Oct-13-11 03:14 PM |
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Unfortunately it's not just the private prisons that are making tons of money on the system |
stillwaiting |
Oct-13-11 03:36 PM |
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textiles and oil too |
reggie the dog |
Oct-14-11 07:01 AM |
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They need to serve the time that all the innocent people spent in prison. |
msanthrope |
Oct-13-11 10:05 AM |
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And I bet most of the people who fell in their net weren't anglo-americans. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Oct-13-11 10:06 AM |
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You can take that to the bank. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 03:02 PM |
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Of course not! It's all just a coincidence!! |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-13-11 03:09 PM |
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white middle class probably not, white working class yes |
reggie the dog |
Oct-14-11 07:26 AM |
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In which case...... |
Uben |
Oct-13-11 10:17 AM |
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The Knapp Commission, the Mollen Commission and yet some people still haven't learned... |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 10:18 AM |
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When they brought asset forfeiture into it, then you know they would have quotas. |
caseymoz |
Oct-13-11 10:24 AM |
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Came here to say this. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-13-11 10:25 AM |
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+1 /nt |
October |
Oct-13-11 12:27 PM |
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It's only logical. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 03:03 PM |
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Next you'll be telling us there are quotas for parking tickets... n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 10:38 AM |
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But it's not much like parking quotas, really. |
caseymoz |
Oct-13-11 11:28 AM |
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DING DING DING! |
KamaAina |
Oct-13-11 11:50 AM |
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In other news... |
Iggo |
Oct-13-11 10:33 AM |
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I am shocked, just shocked, that this happened in America! lol |
krabigirl |
Oct-13-11 10:44 AM |
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Man! I bet the private prison industry is shitting bricks... |
KansDem |
Oct-13-11 10:44 AM |
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Indeed. |
LuvNewcastle |
Oct-13-11 02:49 PM |
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+1, Cui Bono is always the question. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Oct-13-11 09:53 PM |
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We need to get rid of the controlled substance act. |
iscooterliberally |
Oct-13-11 10:50 AM |
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not just kicking down doors |
newspeak |
Oct-14-11 10:58 AM |
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There's a memorial to these folks on Drug War Rant |
iscooterliberally |
Oct-14-11 02:16 PM |
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Drug War is simply another avenue for elites to corrupt government, police and society -- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-13-11 10:51 AM |
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Just like drug testing has been used to get rid of workers the... |
Hubert Flottz |
Oct-13-11 11:28 AM |
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We're reliving the early days of Germany and intimidation of citizens ..... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-13-11 12:24 PM |
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But if they were convicted by a jury, they must be guilty! |
Kingofalldems |
Oct-13-11 11:03 AM |
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The Inevitable Result |
thetimchannel |
Oct-13-11 11:03 AM |
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Bombshell testimony? We'd see that all the time in old movies and teevee shows. |
valerief |
Oct-13-11 11:08 AM |
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I'll bet you any amount of money, that New York is not the only city |
Hubert Flottz |
Oct-13-11 11:12 AM |
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Shocked! Shocked, I say! |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-13-11 11:17 AM |
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I'll go way out on a limb here and say that this revelation |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 11:23 AM |
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Quotas for the private prisons? n/t |
malaise |
Oct-13-11 11:25 AM |
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New York doesn't have privatized prisons. n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 05:30 PM |
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It is true that New York does not have private prisons on its soil, however |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 11:09 PM |
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The article in question concertned arrests by New York City Police, not the federal government. n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-14-11 12:04 AM |
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So you are saying; no drug crimes, for which the NYPD make arrests; |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 11:21 AM |
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I keep saying this, but the war on drugs = fascism |
Taverner |
Oct-13-11 11:30 AM |
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I have a slight disagreement with you....I think it is their "owners" |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 11:54 AM |
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Yes, but the Nuremberg Defense doesn't cut it for me |
Taverner |
Oct-13-11 11:57 AM |
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Excellent point. They are the soldiers, The owners I was referring to |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 11:59 AM |
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I agree. Knowingly ruining lives by false drug charges is unforgivable. |
October |
Oct-13-11 12:30 PM |
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I think you've got a point, as well, but... |
FiveGoodMen |
Oct-13-11 02:07 PM |
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yup ! |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 04:08 PM |
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So I would like to hear how you plan to replace the cops |
Confusious |
Oct-13-11 02:40 PM |
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How about actually having cops keep our society ordered? Instead of chasing hippies... |
Taverner |
Oct-13-11 03:06 PM |
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I think they do |
Confusious |
Oct-13-11 07:28 PM |
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How about we just stop having them waste time on what consenting adults are doing w/their own bodies |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 04:06 AM |
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They're charged with enforcing the laws of the country |
Confusious |
Oct-14-11 02:18 PM |
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The laws should be changed. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 02:58 PM |
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I don't think they have that much latitude |
Confusious |
Oct-14-11 05:55 PM |
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We must elect a congress that is intelligent enough to change these |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 11:49 AM |
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which laws would those be? |
Confusious |
Oct-14-11 02:20 PM |
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What an inane question. nwat |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 08:45 PM |
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If you knew, |
Confusious |
Oct-15-11 12:45 AM |
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Thank you for the message |
ArcticFox |
Oct-13-11 07:46 PM |
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Draconian drug law nourishes unbridled fascism and makes it ok. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 11:31 AM |
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I wonder if part of this is sour apples on the detectives part and if hes only saying this |
cstanleytech |
Oct-13-11 11:45 AM |
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lol.... |
fascisthunter |
Oct-13-11 12:19 PM |
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Yeah...thats it. Committing felony perjury for the sake of revenge. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 01:50 PM |
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I'm not saying thats what he is doing nor did I say I believe it |
cstanleytech |
Oct-13-11 04:08 PM |
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It's just a slight bit farther jump to believe drugs are illegal |
Trillo |
Oct-13-11 11:46 AM |
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Maybe not full on tinfoil... |
Iggo |
Oct-13-11 01:51 PM |
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Or that they can make ridiculous profits by BOTH bringing em into the country AND "fighting" them? |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 04:12 AM |
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It is far past time to legalize drugs. |
slay |
Oct-13-11 11:50 AM |
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Just more of the out of control, Police Militia... |
SoapBox |
Oct-13-11 11:50 AM |
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I pray we reach 'the tipping point' before more lives are destroyed |
duhneece |
Oct-13-11 11:53 AM |
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New York's Finest! |
LiberalFighter |
Oct-13-11 11:54 AM |
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Not surprising. n/t |
ingac70 |
Oct-13-11 12:08 PM |
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Only a few bad apples ....again and again. |
L0oniX |
Oct-13-11 12:14 PM |
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+1 /nt |
October |
Oct-13-11 12:31 PM |
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Oh dear, there must be a few good apples left in this barrel... |
GliderGuider |
Oct-13-11 01:07 PM |
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More like, only a few bad apple trees, or orchards. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 01:59 PM |
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the cops are just a government-supported organized crime ring. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-13-11 12:28 PM |
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and to think there are still people |
shanti |
Oct-13-11 12:36 PM |
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Fucking. Pigs. |
kath |
Oct-13-11 12:48 PM |
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Hey, coppers!!! There's always Wall Street and the Big Banks... |
KansDem |
Oct-13-11 01:07 PM |
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This is our great criminal justice system.. |
Stuart G |
Oct-13-11 01:08 PM |
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Another victory in the insane War on Drugs. |
Flatulo |
Oct-13-11 01:14 PM |
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they don't want to clear prison space - prisoners are free labor nt |
TBF |
Oct-13-11 01:21 PM |
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We do the things that sound good to a majority of people. |
No Elephants |
Oct-13-11 11:34 PM |
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Why am I NOT surprised. This crap and similar goes on all over USA, Inc. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Oct-13-11 01:24 PM |
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Well quell supreeeeeeeez. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 01:40 PM |
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War on Drugs = Opportunity |
get the red out |
Oct-13-11 01:46 PM |
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The brain dead compassion-less republicans don't give a shit-Fuck others is their cold-hearted motto |
GreenTea |
Oct-13-11 02:44 PM |
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I knew this happened but I did not know |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 02:50 PM |
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I'm sure the flourishing privatized prison industry has nothing to do with this. |
Blue Owl |
Oct-13-11 03:18 PM |
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And you'd be right as New York doesn't have privatized prisons. n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 05:29 PM |
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K & R (n/t) |
bread_and_roses |
Oct-13-11 05:19 PM |
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So disturbing |
democrank |
Oct-13-11 05:57 PM |
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The war on drugs has cost us how much? |
PuffedMica |
Oct-13-11 06:08 PM |
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So not much different than Ukraine then. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Oct-13-11 06:10 PM |
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Great job, NYPD. No wonder you're protecting the 1%. |
Dont call me Shirley |
Oct-13-11 06:33 PM |
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I'm sure this is a common practice elsewhere, too.... |
mike_c |
Oct-13-11 07:08 PM |
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I was about to write "un-fucking-believeable" but it really isn't. nt |
Deep13 |
Oct-13-11 07:59 PM |
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Insanity |
Bloodinout |
Oct-13-11 08:05 PM |
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In Tulsa Ok they've had to throw out many cases and release something like 40 or so people so far |
madokie |
Oct-13-11 08:12 PM |
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Cops are a necessary evil. Thats the way its been for over a hundred years. |
demosincebirth |
Oct-13-11 08:21 PM |
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At this point I'd rather live in a world with cops as to live in a world without cops |
madokie |
Oct-14-11 05:38 AM |
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I agree with you, but I do my best not to have any interaction with any cop. |
demosincebirth |
Oct-14-11 12:34 PM |
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As far as walking over to the other side of the street if need be or chance avails itself |
madokie |
Oct-14-11 03:21 PM |
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That does not mean it is necessary to condone their evil /nt |
Dragonfli |
Oct-14-11 05:39 AM |
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Did you read my post? I, certainly, don't condone the evil that they do. |
demosincebirth |
Oct-14-11 12:38 PM |
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fabricated? |
jowsybart |
Oct-13-11 09:25 PM |
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I find it completely disgusting. The organizational culture needs an overhaul... |
Historic NY |
Oct-13-11 09:33 PM |
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If you made your living as a cop, day in and day out for 40 to 50 years, give or take, |
No Elephants |
Oct-13-11 11:53 PM |
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K & R |
walerosco |
Oct-13-11 11:56 PM |
#124 |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Oct-14-11 12:43 AM |
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K&R. It was only a matter of time until someone broke the code of silence. |
Ignis |
Oct-14-11 01:47 AM |
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Land of the Free? |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Oct-14-11 02:30 AM |
#131 |
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Geez, ALL COPS are bad?? |
DiverDave |
Oct-14-11 05:00 AM |
#135 |
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Everything's corrupt here. Schools, cops, city gov't. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Oct-14-11 05:32 AM |
#136 |
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I think that all law enforcement should have to take a |
newspeak |
Oct-14-11 01:05 PM |
#147 |
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Republi cons are running roughshod over this country |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 01:40 PM |
#148 |
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the War on Drugs in action - this is a systemic failure |
RainDog |
Oct-14-11 05:12 PM |
#154 |
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clean as a hounds tooth. |
miyazaki |
Oct-15-11 11:34 AM |
#158 |
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Billion-dollar prison industry... |
clinton4life2011 |
Oct-15-11 01:58 PM |
#159 |
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