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Tue Oct-11-11 09:25 PM
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| 62. Fuck heads! (venting rant follows...) |
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Sorry for the language and I know that this is really an expected political play but God damn it! Working people are being hurt badly by these fucks. It is time to fucking fight back! God damn it I'm mad as hell tonight and apparently need to vent a bit.
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| -BREAKING: Senate Republicans vote to block $447 billion Obama jobs bill, roll call continues. |
NRaleighLiberal |
Oct-11-11 06:14 PM |
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Have any Democrats defected yet? |
frazzled |
Oct-11-11 06:17 PM |
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Would you rather he have a symbolic vote or keep control of the upper chamber? |
Firebrand Gary |
Oct-11-11 06:22 PM |
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It was a vote simply to talk about it, not pass it |
frazzled |
Oct-11-11 06:28 PM |
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The GOP will campaign on it that it was the actual bill. Same difference. |
Firebrand Gary |
Oct-11-11 06:44 PM |
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D'oh |
frazzled |
Oct-11-11 11:02 PM |
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What is in the Bill is popular. They are stupid to vote against it. |
Pirate Smile |
Oct-11-11 06:32 PM |
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"We" clearly don't have control of the Senate. nt |
Deep13 |
Oct-11-11 09:47 PM |
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Per CSPAN, 50 Democrats voted "aye." |
Robb |
Oct-11-11 06:20 PM |
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any Republican yes's? |
Firebrand Gary |
Oct-11-11 06:23 PM |
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Snowe and Collins are going down next time, so there will be two REAL Democrats from Maine. |
TrollBuster9090 |
Oct-11-11 07:04 PM |
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Given the numbers, it's likely the Democrats will lose the Senate next year. |
elocs |
Oct-11-11 08:53 PM |
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No real surprise on Nelson and Tester.... |
Hulk |
Oct-11-11 06:25 PM |
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And yet some people on DU get upset if it is pointed out that Democrats are part of the problem |
MNBrewer |
Oct-11-11 08:59 PM |
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Bullshit.You say "Democrats" when it's really only a couple of Democrats.U imply most Democrats. |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 09:45 PM |
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What's bullshit is... |
Psephos |
Oct-11-11 11:30 PM |
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Democrats also say it's "bipartisan" if only a Republican or two vote with Democrats. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:05 AM |
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Exactly, 2 out of 52 Dem Senators voting the wrong way is hardly grounds for a sweeping indictment |
stevenleser |
Oct-12-11 09:08 AM |
#114 |
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DU requires you to support incumbent Democrats in an election, but not in a primary. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:02 AM |
#92 |
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DU can't require me to vote any particular way |
MNBrewer |
Oct-12-11 11:49 AM |
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Surprised by Tester. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Oct-12-11 09:37 AM |
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Nelson and Tester need to be taken down HARD in a primary. |
TrollBuster9090 |
Oct-11-11 07:02 PM |
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Baucus too. They are all traitors. |
harun |
Oct-11-11 09:45 PM |
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Possibly Kabuki. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:07 AM |
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Everyone one wins but us. But I agree with the hypothesis, you see |
harun |
Oct-12-11 08:28 AM |
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Montana won't elect someone we consider liberal enough. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Oct-12-11 09:38 AM |
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Fuckin' Nelson. |
progressoid |
Oct-12-11 03:36 AM |
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Senate Republicans vote to kill Obama's jobs bill |
ProSense |
Oct-11-11 06:21 PM |
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Effin 60/40 rule instead of a simple majority... |
rsmith6621 |
Oct-11-11 06:28 PM |
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The Re-Thug are now on RECORD. |
rsmith6621 |
Oct-11-11 06:29 PM |
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Which I suspect that obama and the democratic leadership is counting on. |
cstanleytech |
Oct-11-11 07:05 PM |
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Basically, yes. The Dems have finally figured out how to use Poison Pill Legislation |
TrollBuster9090 |
Oct-11-11 07:11 PM |
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And they are breaking up the bill so only the things the Republicans like will become law. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:21 AM |
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It would have lost more Senators in a straight up or down vote... |
Imajika |
Oct-11-11 06:34 PM |
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C'mon are you kidding? That 60/40 rule worked pretty well for us when we stopped W |
Firebrand Gary |
Oct-11-11 06:47 PM |
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I don't recall the 60/40 rule being used to block privatization of Social Security. |
TrollBuster9090 |
Oct-11-11 07:22 PM |
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It wasn't. |
Zorra |
Oct-11-11 11:30 PM |
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I am not sure it works for Americans overall. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:18 AM |
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Reid can end the filibuster any time he chooses. He |
Zorra |
Oct-11-11 11:25 PM |
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Reid does what his caucus wants. If that were not so, he would not be Democrat leader, whether |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:35 AM |
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Harry Reid invented the filibuster rules? Don't think so. See also Reply 100. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:50 AM |
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Time to get those GOP assholes out of office!!! |
Major Hogwash |
Oct-11-11 06:38 PM |
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can you clarify how the Bush tax cuts filibusters were busted? |
alp227 |
Oct-11-11 06:49 PM |
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The difference was that the Dems didn't filibuster Bush's tax cuts. |
TrollBuster9090 |
Oct-11-11 07:28 PM |
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Not in a filibuster.The majority doesn't win. It takes a supermajority of 60/40 not 51-50 |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 09:49 PM |
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60 to shut down debate? and 51 to pass bills? |
alp227 |
Oct-12-11 12:09 AM |
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60 to keep a bill from being voted on. 50 plus the VP to pass or defeat a bill that does manage to |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:42 AM |
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Maybe that depends on your definition of "winning." The main thing for most of these clowns is not |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 07:14 AM |
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Motherfuckers! |
sakabatou |
Oct-11-11 06:25 PM |
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You sound surprised. |
primavera |
Oct-12-11 12:17 AM |
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I'm not surprised |
sakabatou |
Oct-12-11 12:26 AM |
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so true, even when it's mostly repug policies |
newspeak |
Oct-12-11 10:56 AM |
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Make...... Them...... Actually...... Filibuster |
thelordofhell |
Oct-11-11 06:29 PM |
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Ditto. |
SoapBox |
Oct-11-11 06:32 PM |
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procedural delays are the very definition of a filibuster. |
unblock |
Oct-11-11 06:41 PM |
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To "actually filibuster" only requires one member to object with one sentence on Motion to proceed |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 09:59 PM |
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Bernie Sanders actually SAID STUFF for 8 hours during the Bush tax cuts renewal debate |
alp227 |
Oct-12-11 12:10 AM |
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They're on the record now!!! |
Major Hogwash |
Oct-11-11 06:36 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-11-11 06:46 PM |
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You can't blame Obama for this one. |
red dog 1 |
Oct-11-11 06:53 PM |
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But inevitably many will |
BumRushDaShow |
Oct-11-11 07:06 PM |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:09 AM |
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Looks like it will be 51-48 after Shaheen votes. |
Pirate Smile |
Oct-11-11 06:46 PM |
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Both Tester and Nelson are up for re-election next year! |
red dog 1 |
Oct-11-11 06:50 PM |
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Run against the Do Nothing Congress |
neverforget |
Oct-11-11 06:55 PM |
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"could begin taking up individual elements of the jobs package, possibly as soon as next week" |
bluestateguy |
Oct-11-11 06:56 PM |
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why rush? Unemployment hasn't hit 10% yet, or 20, and they've got theirs |
wordpix |
Oct-11-11 09:09 PM |
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Please see Reply 99. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 07:58 AM |
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What makes you think that any part of this bill that passes will benefit people who are out of work? |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:31 AM |
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DEAR DEMOCRATS DO NOT WATER DOWN THE BILL |
AbigailThomas |
Oct-11-11 06:59 PM |
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woah. "Democrats largely rejected taxing the rich". I just read that sentence 3 times. |
robinlynne |
Oct-11-11 07:01 PM |
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They are the one percent. Simple as that. Some things to politicians, D or R are more important |
Muskypundit |
Oct-11-11 07:10 PM |
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Pretty much. Loyalty to the brotherhood of Plutocrats comes first. |
TrollBuster9090 |
Oct-11-11 07:32 PM |
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It stuff like that, which makes me think this whole political system is a ruse |
Muskypundit |
Oct-11-11 07:42 PM |
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Ding, Ding, Ding, |
Pavlo |
Oct-11-11 09:03 PM |
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Term limits were already passed in the state of Washington. |
gmee2 |
Oct-11-11 10:16 PM |
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President Obama is not the issue. It's way beyond one person. Please see Reply 103 and my sig.. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 08:30 AM |
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gov of, by and for the rich, it's very clear that's the way it's operating |
wordpix |
Oct-11-11 09:06 PM |
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Please see Reply 93. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 08:12 AM |
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How could The Carvilles have turned down that invite, given who Mrs. Carville is? |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 08:05 AM |
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That's a misprint. The PUKES are against taxing the rich. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-11-11 08:11 PM |
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The LA Times misprinted THAT? They should issue a retraction right away, then |
wordpix |
Oct-11-11 09:04 PM |
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Good luck with that. 2 dems were against taxing the rich so they say "Democrats" |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 10:02 PM |
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Our form of government is kleptocracy. Our form of economy is plutonomy. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 07:01 AM |
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"Democrats largely rejected taxing the rich to pay for it." |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Oct-11-11 07:03 PM |
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They are until we primary the s#!t out of them! |
TrollBuster9090 |
Oct-11-11 07:36 PM |
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The system is designed to re-elect incumbents and to make sure liberals don't win office. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 08:01 AM |
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"Democrats largely rejected taxing the rich to pay for it?" |
red dog 1 |
Oct-11-11 07:04 PM |
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k&r for what a surprise. not |
uppityperson |
Oct-11-11 07:09 PM |
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yep, as expected. circus for the masses; circle-jerk for the tribunes; orgies for the wealthy. |
marasinghe |
Oct-11-11 08:40 PM |
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Democrats largely rejected taxing the rich to pay for it. |
AlbertCat |
Oct-11-11 07:12 PM |
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Jim Webb (D-VA) opposed surtax on millionaires! |
red dog 1 |
Oct-11-11 08:02 PM |
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Jim Webb, traitor! |
wordpix |
Oct-11-11 08:59 PM |
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Nelson and Tester have to go! |
red dog 1 |
Oct-11-11 07:16 PM |
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Guess I'll have to take a job occupying. |
Downwinder |
Oct-11-11 07:21 PM |
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ha, ha, come down to DC, we should occupy the Capitol like they did in WIS |
wordpix |
Oct-11-11 09:00 PM |
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Now USE THIS, Mr. President! |
So Shall Us |
Oct-11-11 07:24 PM |
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Good joke! |
Nihil |
Oct-12-11 07:03 AM |
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Their billionaires must be so proud! nt |
valerief |
Oct-11-11 07:28 PM |
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Nuclear |
Doctor_J |
Oct-11-11 08:06 PM |
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We should give the senate a book called "Legislating For Dummies".Repubs are destroying the economy |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 10:05 PM |
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Was anybody expecting anything different? |
Demeter |
Oct-11-11 08:40 PM |
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LOL, not out of the Senate. |
harun |
Oct-11-11 09:46 PM |
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wtf? "Democrats largely rejected taxing the rich to pay for it" |
wordpix |
Oct-11-11 08:58 PM |
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2Democrats...2 democrats...2 democrats...2 democrats. Geez. explore a little. |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 10:06 PM |
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Fuck heads! (venting rant follows...) |
jimlup |
Oct-11-11 09:25 PM |
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i'm scared to death right now |
RayTy |
Oct-11-11 09:27 PM |
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that damn Obama... |
dennis4868 |
Oct-11-11 09:41 PM |
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Tester and Nelson are running for re-election. |
blueclown |
Oct-11-11 09:43 PM |
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How Does This Help? |
otohara |
Oct-12-11 11:30 AM |
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Their rationale would probably be that their states will likely vote for GOP nominee |
blueclown |
Oct-12-11 02:27 PM |
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Republicans won't be satisfied till America Burns to the ground |
AsahinaKimi |
Oct-11-11 09:48 PM |
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They have gated communities which excludes most Americans.Only here a few months a yr |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 10:08 PM |
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Who could have guessed? (NT) |
The Wizard |
Oct-11-11 09:52 PM |
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So what should the president do now? |
PragmaticLiberal |
Oct-11-11 10:04 PM |
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America will never recover till all republicans are voted out of government.Can't work with crazies |
bjobotts |
Oct-11-11 10:11 PM |
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It can not happen with our current eleciton system. You know that, right. |
robinlynne |
Oct-11-11 11:34 PM |
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Will never happen; and even if it did, there would still be the excuse of blue dogs/DINOs.. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 08:35 AM |
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The President has a campaign issue now. I'd rather it passed because.. |
mvd |
Oct-11-11 10:16 PM |
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"Break it up" IOW, all the tax breaks will probably pass. |
No Elephants |
Oct-12-11 06:10 AM |
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Dems need to hold the GOP over the fire on this one |
auburngrad82 |
Oct-12-11 08:07 AM |
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Not surprising, but still disappointing... |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-12-11 11:31 AM |
#119 |