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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 02:53 AM
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69. Your entire post isn't credible given that Venezuela is more murderous than Iraq.
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 02:59 AM by joshcryer
Venezuela is more unsafe than fucking Colombia for crying out loud. Worse than Colombia during the peak of the late 90s early 2000s death squads. Let that sink in a bit, why don't you? It's a horrible horrible despotism. Second or third worst place on the entire planet as far as murder is concerned.

What's cute about your post is Chavez is clearly opining about America, and its protests, but we're not allowed to opine about Venezuela and its protests? We can't point out that they protest regularly in Venezuela? We can't point out that the Venezuelan government is even more oppressive against people who are even more impoverished?

Give me a fucking break.

edit: btw, nice dig with the "you can support right wingers" quip, which has no basis in reality and shows that you don't really believe a left winger can be anti-Chavez.
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  -(Hugo) Chvez condemns Wall Street protest 'crackdown' alp227  Oct-09-11 01:33 PM   #0 
  - chavez would do the same to protestors in venezuela nt  msongs   Oct-09-11 01:44 PM   #1 
  - Nope. And he has not, ever, even when the opposiiton purposely  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 01:54 PM   #3 
  - lol  Bacchus39   Oct-12-11 12:16 PM   #97 
  - I agree with the other poster, he would definitely not arrest people enmass, he'd tear gas them.  joshcryer   Oct-09-11 02:37 PM   #8 
     - yep, tear gassed the families of inmates just a couple of months ago  Bacchus39   Oct-10-11 06:48 PM   #57 
        - See post #7, they were tear gassing peacefully protesting people who wanted housing...  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 08:27 PM   #62 
        - Chavez is so evil. The poor, poor  bitchkitty   Oct-11-11 08:49 AM   #74 
           - 70% of prisoners still awaiting trial  Bacchus39   Oct-11-11 09:43 AM   #76 
              - Ah, so you would prefer  bitchkitty   Oct-11-11 09:25 PM   #84 
                 - 70% of the "prisoners" in the prisons are awaiting trial. comprendes??? n/t  Bacchus39   Oct-12-11 07:41 AM   #86 
                    - Answer the question.  bitchkitty   Oct-12-11 08:08 AM   #87 
                    - Tear gas... LOL. Led solid with full metal jacket in an AK assault rifle.  ChangoLoa   Oct-12-11 09:07 AM   #88 
                    - I'll make it simple for you. 70% haven't been convicted of anything  Bacchus39   Oct-12-11 09:25 AM   #89 
                       - Still won't answer my question.  bitchkitty   Oct-12-11 10:23 AM   #90 
                          - makes no sense and irrelevant to the tear gassing of the relatives of the prisoners  Bacchus39   Oct-12-11 10:37 AM   #91 
                          - Please provide a source to relatives being tear gassed.  bitchkitty   Oct-12-11 11:21 AM   #93 
                             - here you go. note post #3 that said this hasn't happened, ever lol  Bacchus39   Oct-12-11 12:14 PM   #96 
                                - Thank you - context is everything.  bitchkitty   Oct-12-11 04:56 PM   #99 
                          - Your question is based on a fallacy. nt  ChangoLoa   Oct-12-11 10:45 AM   #92 
                    - The violent gangs are led and milked by the National Guard (military police). The military control  ChangoLoa   Oct-12-11 11:51 AM   #94 
  - Chavez should shut his trap. This has nothing to do with him.  Lars77   Oct-09-11 01:46 PM   #2 
  - Hugo Chavez was protesting Wall Street's predations before  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 01:55 PM   #4 
     - That doesent mean he is a visionary. Dont let that guy fool you, hes just a populist.  Lars77   Oct-09-11 04:04 PM   #16 
        - You know, you really don't have to be a visionary to see Wall Street  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 04:32 PM   #17 
        - Wow really? Do you really believe that he has any democratic intentions what so ever?  Lars77   Oct-09-11 04:34 PM   #18 
           - I don't have to believe anything. He has a decade long record to resort to. nt  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 08:36 PM   #27 
           - You don't have to 'believe it' ~ he has proven it which is why he has  sabrina 1   Oct-10-11 03:51 AM   #37 
              - They don't even know why they hate him.  EFerrari   Oct-10-11 04:01 AM   #38 
              - I guess Amnesty International have been fooled too.  Lars77   Oct-10-11 01:50 PM   #45 
                 - If you got it, you'd know the disposition of those cases  EFerrari   Oct-10-11 02:02 PM   #47 
              - Anti-Chavez is not intrinsically "right wing." You can be left wing and anti-Chavez.  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 04:20 AM   #39 
              - Yes you can, he's a politician, there is nothing wrong with  sabrina 1   Oct-10-11 12:23 PM   #44 
                 - What propaganda? Lars77 has provided his sources. They're dismissed because people...  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 08:22 PM   #59 
                    - Have you seen Amnesty Int. reports on the human rights situation  sabrina 1   Oct-10-11 09:12 PM   #65 
                       - This thread is a Chavez thread, where his supporters come to his beck and call and are loud.  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 09:47 PM   #67 
                          - Supporters of a country's sovereignty and the right of its people to  sabrina 1   Oct-11-11 02:47 AM   #68 
                             - Your entire post isn't credible given that Venezuela is more murderous than Iraq.  joshcryer   Oct-11-11 02:53 AM   #69 
                                - More BS and more propaganda. But I've already been through  sabrina 1   Oct-11-11 03:05 AM   #70 
                                   - Oh so it's OK that people are dying enmasse in Venezuela because it's not behind the auspices...  joshcryer   Oct-11-11 03:09 AM   #72 
                                      - Aren't you worried about the people dying in Libya right now and Iraq  sabrina 1   Oct-11-11 02:27 PM   #79 
                                         - Absolutely. This thread, however, is about the hypocrite Chavez bashing the USA.  joshcryer   Oct-11-11 07:06 PM   #82 
              - Yeah im actually a secret right winger who know nothing about the world  Lars77   Oct-10-11 01:57 PM   #46 
                 - The RCTV shutdown was discussed here at length.  EFerrari   Oct-10-11 02:31 PM   #49 
                 - I like how you write "view" like i am some sort of undercover propagandist.  Lars77   Oct-10-11 02:41 PM   #50 
                    - I didn't mean that. I meant that your opinion can't really be the result of seeing  EFerrari   Oct-10-11 02:52 PM   #51 
                    - The press is not free in Venezuela  Little Tich   Oct-11-11 03:42 AM   #73 
                    - Regarding RCTV, every single propaganda piece defending their shut down neglects Venevisin.  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 08:30 PM   #63 
                 - ahem  reorg   Oct-10-11 05:08 PM   #56 
                 - I did some research on populism vs social democracy. Social democracy wins every time.  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 08:23 PM   #60 
        - It would be great if folks in this country could see a "populist" as a good thing. nt  TBF   Oct-11-11 06:55 PM   #81 
  - What "horrible repression" ? Last I checked for the most part the people staging the protests have  cstanleytech   Oct-09-11 02:00 PM   #5 
  - yeah, the several thousand people arrested obviously deserved it  ixion   Oct-09-11 02:11 PM   #6 
  - I mean repression as in kent state style or something  cstanleytech   Oct-09-11 02:55 PM   #10 
     - okay, that's quite a qualifier. No, it hasn't happened, yet...  ixion   Oct-09-11 02:59 PM   #12 
        - The point should be that Chavez has no moral superiority with how he's used similar tactics...  joshcryer   Oct-09-11 03:10 PM   #13 
           - He has as much moral superiority as any politician  ixion   Oct-09-11 03:20 PM   #15 
              - Why golly gee, I've been informed in this thread Chavez didn't even "take the bait," when...  joshcryer   Oct-09-11 04:42 PM   #20 
              - lol... I didn't say I supported him, I said he's the same as any other pol  ixion   Oct-09-11 05:23 PM   #23 
              - He cheerleads massacres of Libyans and Syrians because his friends  geek tragedy   Oct-09-11 05:34 PM   #26 
  - Beside the beaten, maced and arrested journalists and stuff?  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 02:55 PM   #9 
     - Reread, I said "for the most part".  cstanleytech   Oct-09-11 02:57 PM   #11 
        - Chavez aside, I'm a little worried about what happens when  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 03:10 PM   #14 
  - LOL, search "protesta venezuela" on Google news. Venezuela has protests regularly...  joshcryer   Oct-09-11 02:34 PM   #7 
  - Yep. And there have been live shots of Chavez supporters  COLGATE4   Oct-09-11 04:44 PM   #21 
     - No, X-Ray of a Lie showed that those protesters were firing on police vehicles.  joshcryer   Oct-09-11 05:02 PM   #22 
     - Link?  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 09:52 PM   #29 
        - No link to his ass, which is where he pulled that from. n/t  bitchkitty   Oct-11-11 08:57 AM   #75 
  - Hugo? Ha...  jefferson_dem   Oct-09-11 04:36 PM   #19 
  - Vive Chavez!  harun   Oct-09-11 05:25 PM   #24 
  - Funny how Hugo didn't care about the people killed by his buddies Assad and Kadaffi.  geek tragedy   Oct-09-11 05:33 PM   #25 
  - I haven't seen you denouncing the completely predictable slaughter of civilians in Sirte.  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 09:55 PM   #31 
     - According to the fiction writers at WSWS and other pro-Qadaffi outlets.  geek tragedy   Oct-09-11 10:20 PM   #32 
        - The pro-Gaddafi outlets like Reuters, you mean?  EFerrari   Oct-09-11 10:40 PM   #33 
        - asdf  geek tragedy   Oct-09-11 10:50 PM   #34 
           - Yep.  joshcryer   Oct-09-11 10:59 PM   #35 
           - The fact of the matter is,  ronnie624   Oct-11-11 11:23 AM   #78 
              - Chavez happily meets the wests' geopolitical interests.  joshcryer   Oct-11-11 07:08 PM   #83 
        - It's ironic that you're accused of not denouncing Sirte when the same person didn't denounce Misrata  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 05:09 AM   #40 
  - get well Hugo, the world needs more leaders like you....  unkachuck   Oct-09-11 09:26 PM   #28 
  - what a dick!  devilgrrl   Oct-09-11 09:53 PM   #30 
  - Vive Chavez  Tom Ripley   Oct-09-11 11:19 PM   #36 
  - Occupy Caracas is next, you fat ugly pig Hugo.  slackmaster   Oct-10-11 05:55 AM   #41 
  - I can't think of anything that could decimate this movement quicker than a Chavez endorsement.  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-10-11 12:05 PM   #42 
  - What will the neighbors think?  EFerrari   Oct-10-11 02:27 PM   #48 
     - I'm sorry, but have I ever indicated that I give a shit about what you think, about...  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-10-11 04:00 PM   #52 
        - "There was no mistaking that invitation."  EFerrari   Oct-10-11 04:09 PM   #53 
           - Viva la Revolucion? Chavez 2012!  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-10-11 04:14 PM   #54 
              - I predict that HCR will beat Chavez in 2012.  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 08:25 PM   #61 
                 - Much like Ahmadin-a-jacket, he's an attention whore. Hey world, Look at Me!  Tarheel_Dem   Oct-10-11 09:08 PM   #64 
                    - The only way HCR loses is, actually, if Chavez uses the new electronic voting machines...  joshcryer   Oct-10-11 09:43 PM   #66 
  - Good for Chavez ... and that's what we need the White House and Congress to be saying !!!  defendandprotect   Oct-10-11 12:11 PM   #43 
  - Yes, good for him. I too would like to hear some condemnation  sabrina 1   Oct-11-11 03:08 AM   #71 
  - Oh no! Not Hugo Chavez!!!!!  devilgrrl   Oct-10-11 04:41 PM   #55 
  - "Crackdown", but not in Syria...  rayofreason   Oct-10-11 07:40 PM   #58 
  - Hugo Chavez sends solidarity to Gaddafi, Syria  Bacchus39   Oct-11-11 09:58 AM   #77 
  - nothing like a Chavez post to bring out the reich  fascisthunter   Oct-11-11 05:49 PM   #80 
  - They are revealing, aren't they?  sabrina 1   Oct-12-11 03:12 AM   #85 
     - like rabid dogs  fascisthunter   Oct-12-11 04:27 PM   #98 
  - "Bashar al Assad is a humanist" and the protesters in Syria are fake agents bought by the CIA  ChangoLoa   Oct-12-11 12:10 PM   #95 

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