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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:12 PM
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16. Not quite. The issue at hand is the background check on firearm sales.
Every transaction which goes through a dealer, there's a background check, which includes a list of questions. One of those is "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?"

According to federal law, medical marijuana use is illegal. So any MM patients would be considered "illegal users" of marijuana, and therefore fail the background check, at least according to the ATF.
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  -ATF: Illegal to Sell Guns to Med Marijuana Users Ptah  Sep-28-11 07:28 PM   #0 
  - No, its not illegal.  cleanhippie   Sep-28-11 07:31 PM   #1 
  - Not quite. The issue at hand is the background check on firearm sales.  TheWraith   Sep-28-11 09:12 PM   #16 
  - So they intend grower patients to face home invasions without a gun?  WingDinger   Sep-28-11 07:42 PM   #2 
  - Yeah, because growers are known for their adherence to laws.  boppers   Sep-29-11 12:16 AM   #36 
  - Let me get this straight....  Prospero1   Sep-28-11 07:48 PM   #3 
  - This is the same ATF  burf   Sep-28-11 07:51 PM   #4 
  - Yes because if med cannabis users have guns, the ATF won't have enough guns to sell to the cartels.  Uncle Joe   Sep-30-11 10:54 AM   #43 
  - How about this?  Blacksheep214   Sep-28-11 08:09 PM   #5 
  - Why is the government in my medical records?  Blacksheep214   Sep-28-11 08:30 PM   #6 
  - Wait 'til you see what's coming.  Psephos   Sep-28-11 08:39 PM   #10 
  - I'd be fine with that.  boppers   Sep-29-11 12:08 AM   #33 
  - So using controlled substances...  blackspade   Sep-28-11 08:34 PM   #7 
  - The ATF specifically singles out "unlawful users."  TheWraith   Sep-28-11 09:14 PM   #17 
  - No, you can buy a gun if you aren't *addicted, or using illegal drugs*.  boppers   Sep-29-11 12:10 AM   #34 
  - Deoxyn is the trade name for meth.  Occulus   Sep-28-11 09:30 PM   #20 
     - That's not quite right...  GReedDiamond   Sep-28-11 11:05 PM   #29 
     - "Why does meth have a legitimate pharmaceutical use, but cannabis does not?"  boppers   Sep-29-11 12:15 AM   #35 
  - r2z  frylock   Sep-28-11 08:36 PM   #8 
  - Does this apply to other prescription medications as well?  surrealAmerican   Sep-28-11 08:37 PM   #9 
  - Here's the ATF's own definition.  Psephos   Sep-28-11 08:43 PM   #12 
  - On its way? Do you do standup?  ArcticFox   Sep-28-11 09:06 PM   #15 
     - Have anything useful to add to my comment, or were you just using it as a fire hydrant? n/t  Psephos   Sep-28-11 11:39 PM   #32 
  - The federal government does not recognize any medical purpose for marijuana.  AtheistCrusader   Sep-28-11 10:15 PM   #25 
  - Land of Laws is righteous and wrong(((AGAIN)))  DreamSmoker   Sep-28-11 08:43 PM   #11 
  - Get thee to thy local gun show  Bozita   Sep-28-11 08:47 PM   #13 
  - Only if you're going to wander around asking other attendees if they'll sell you a gun.  TheWraith   Sep-28-11 09:16 PM   #18 
     - They do not do background checks at gun shows  Mr Deltoid   Sep-28-11 10:03 PM   #24 
        - Only from private sellers.  AtheistCrusader   Sep-28-11 10:22 PM   #26 
        - True  Mr Deltoid   Sep-28-11 11:15 PM   #30 
        - Federal law requires gun dealers to perform background checks on every sale.  TheWraith   Sep-28-11 10:57 PM   #28 
  - How dare the ATF enforce the law as it is written!  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-28-11 09:03 PM   #14 
  - The ATF should be a convenience store  Ter   Sep-28-11 09:38 PM   #21 
  - A doctor's prescription =|= "an unlawful user of, or addicted to"  Ignis   Sep-29-11 04:26 PM   #38 
     - Federal law prohibits doctors from prescribing Schedule I Controlled Substances  Freddie Stubbs   Sep-30-11 08:15 AM   #39 
  - If only a democrat were in the White House /nt  Bragi   Sep-28-11 09:21 PM   #19 
  - Good, there's been far too much gun violence from medical marijuana users.  gtar100   Sep-28-11 09:45 PM   #22 
  - Open season on medical MJ patients  Mr Deltoid   Sep-28-11 10:00 PM   #23 
  - Yet it's A-OK to sell firearms to alcoholics...  BiggJawn   Sep-28-11 10:52 PM   #27 
  - That's why it's called the War On SOME Drugs  Doctor_J   Sep-30-11 08:47 AM   #41 
  - Wow. But Oxy users, people who drink, etc., no problem. But heaven forbid you use a natural medicine  krabigirl   Sep-28-11 11:30 PM   #31 
  - How hard can it be to get a gun  Blacksheep214   Sep-29-11 09:48 AM   #37 
  - While I do think the country would be better off if all guns were replaced with pot,  Doctor_J   Sep-30-11 08:45 AM   #40 
  - Shut them down  AngryAmish   Sep-30-11 08:55 AM   #42 
  - Just freakin wow ...  retired af major   Sep-30-11 11:41 AM   #44 
  - Hmmm....  Socal31   Sep-30-11 11:48 AM   #45 
  - I'm hoping,  Ride4Life627   Oct-03-11 04:23 PM   #46 
  - lol... ridiculous  fascisthunter   Oct-03-11 06:24 PM   #47 

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