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w0nderer Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:20 AM
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  -Study: Gulf War Syndrome Is Brain Damage Caused By Nerve Gas, Not Psychological Issues Hissyspit  Sep-16-11 01:39 AM   #0 
  - Yet Another "Cause", if we give them more money.  boppers   Sep-16-11 01:46 AM   #1 
  - organophosphate  KT2000   Sep-16-11 03:51 AM   #3 
  - Diffuse poisoning  izquierdista   Sep-16-11 09:47 AM   #27 
  - yes, I thought DU (depleted uranium) was shown to be responsible for at least some of GWS  spooked911   Sep-16-11 11:18 AM   #46 
     - Are we talking G(H)WS or GWS?  Thor_MN   Sep-16-11 05:52 PM   #80 
        - I don't know  spooked911   Sep-16-11 08:05 PM   #87 
           - Well, there's your GW and your GHW... both of them started wars in the Gulf.  Thor_MN   Sep-16-11 08:15 PM   #88 
  - Those Who Join Should Know  liberalmike27   Sep-16-11 10:06 AM   #34 
  - That's the truth  KT2000   Sep-16-11 11:48 AM   #53 
  - Yep. The ruling class is just not worth risking your life over. nt  valerief   Sep-16-11 03:53 PM   #74 
  - Thank you. You are absolutely correct about pesticides. My uncle  jwirr   Sep-16-11 11:05 AM   #44 
  - Militaries and wars are POISON.  DeSwiss   Sep-16-11 01:33 PM   #61 
  - People shouldn't forget the oil well fires.  TheWraith   Sep-16-11 02:25 PM   #68 
  - Don't forget the diet sodas...  IthinkThereforeIAM   Sep-17-11 01:26 AM   #95 
     - Somehow, it's hard to see the VA granting presumptive CTSD...  pinboy3niner   Sep-17-11 01:35 AM   #96 
  - Yeah, those fucking attempts to study brain damaged troops are draining us dry.  No Elephants   Sep-16-11 05:24 AM   #9 
  - WHAT?!?!  chervilant   Sep-16-11 09:54 AM   #29 
  - ...you find that picture offensive?  Bladian   Sep-16-11 12:58 PM   #59 
  - hmm...  chervilant   Sep-17-11 02:01 AM   #97 
  - You must be:  boppers   Sep-16-11 10:59 PM   #92 
     - You must be:  chervilant   Sep-17-11 02:04 AM   #98 
  - Really? Have you noticed there's no "Afghani War Syndrome?"  caseymoz   Sep-16-11 10:09 AM   #37 
  - The same poster was telling us how healthy Corexit was last year..  Fuddnik   Sep-16-11 10:16 AM   #38 
  - Must be "the T word". nt  valerief   Sep-16-11 03:56 PM   #76 
  - Exactly.  boppers   Sep-16-11 10:43 PM   #90 
  - but  donquijoterocket   Sep-16-11 01:48 PM   #63 
  - I think you're on the wrong message board. This is for Progressives. You know, people with empathy.  valerief   Sep-16-11 03:55 PM   #75 
  - Empathy doesn't mean potentially lying in the name of funding pet theories.  boppers   Sep-16-11 10:45 PM   #91 
  - depleted uranium  astral   Sep-17-11 12:16 AM   #94 
  - Nerve gas = brain damage?  BeFree   Sep-16-11 01:59 AM   #2 
  - Where does it say that nerve gas is to blame?  naaman fletcher   Sep-16-11 04:40 AM   #4 
  - "caused by chronic exposure to minimal amounts of sarin gas."  dixiegrrrrl   Sep-16-11 05:05 AM   #5 
     - US troops blew up Iraqi ammo dumps that contained large numbers of sarin gas tipped shells  leveymg   Sep-16-11 05:12 AM   #7 
     - Chickens roosting. n/t  HysteryDiagnosis   Sep-16-11 05:20 AM   #8 
     - No. If sarin damaged those who profited from it, or started that war, maybe chickens  No Elephants   Sep-16-11 05:30 AM   #11 
        - Agreed.  leveymg   Sep-16-11 05:43 AM   #13 
        - Bravo.  Pab Sungenis   Sep-16-11 07:20 AM   #19 
     - Maybe, but, even if so, nothing says it was the ONLY source of their exposure.  No Elephants   Sep-16-11 05:26 AM   #10 
     - Not I. There were dozens of neurotoxins. Sarin gas is just the most potent.  leveymg   Sep-16-11 05:44 AM   #14 
     - And thats why the bush/cheney criminal crew just knew that Saddam had WMD  madokie   Sep-16-11 07:00 AM   #18 
        - They also knew in '95 that Saddam had destroyed most of his stockpiles - the head of the Iraqi  leveymg   Sep-16-11 09:48 AM   #28 
        - As it is now Lies are too easy to tell  madokie   Sep-16-11 12:12 PM   #56 
           - Real honesty is impossible above a certain level in government - it would be dealt with as a violat-  leveymg   Sep-16-11 12:21 PM   #57 
        - Exactly! That's what I was thinking too . . .  mistertrickster   Sep-16-11 11:50 AM   #54 
     - They were exposed through blowing up Iraqi arsenal and by scud missiles  LaurenG   Sep-16-11 09:22 AM   #25 
     - this study does not indicate the cause, it only shows real physiological changes...  yawnmaster   Sep-16-11 01:47 PM   #62 
     - A good book  KT2000   Sep-16-11 06:25 PM   #81 
  - This study seems to be most significant for identification of a definite physiological injury.  leveymg   Sep-16-11 05:09 AM   #6 
  - Not getting your point. What if no 'physiological" cause were ever found for troops' brain damage?  No Elephants   Sep-16-11 05:32 AM   #12 
     - Then, there would be a less clear path of research and treatment.  leveymg   Sep-16-11 05:48 AM   #15 
     - Thanks for the info  No Elephants   Sep-16-11 02:08 PM   #65 
     - It would be more difficult to attempt to hold the Pentagon and MIC responsible.  Raster   Sep-16-11 09:58 AM   #30 
     - Thanks.  No Elephants   Sep-16-11 02:10 PM   #67 
     - Well, now,  chervilant   Sep-16-11 10:00 AM   #31 
        - Thanks.  No Elephants   Sep-16-11 02:10 PM   #66 
  - When discussing this topic  sulphurdunn   Sep-16-11 05:54 AM   #16 
  - OMG!  chervilant   Sep-16-11 10:06 AM   #35 
  - For a minute, there, I was wondering what was so horrible about  Bette Noir   Sep-16-11 11:46 AM   #52 
  - Fallujah's (sic) birth defects may be a preliminary study.  jwirr   Sep-16-11 11:14 AM   #45 
  - k&r n/t  w0nderer   Sep-16-11 06:20 AM   #17 
  - Great news! Now can we start talking about the soldiers inhalation of depleted uranium? nt  Javaman   Sep-16-11 07:47 AM   #20 
  - Give that another 10 years  Demeter   Sep-16-11 08:18 AM   #21 
  - no doubt.  Javaman   Sep-16-11 08:50 AM   #23 
     - Correction:  chervilant   Sep-16-11 10:02 AM   #32 
        - I stand corrected.  Javaman   Sep-16-11 11:43 AM   #51 
  - Veterans already are:  chervilant   Sep-16-11 10:17 AM   #39 
     - With so many possibilities present it almost guarantees that no one  jwirr   Sep-16-11 11:19 AM   #47 
     - Half a million of our guys on disability from that war? Holy shit.  Muskypundit   Sep-16-11 11:30 AM   #49 
     - Actually no.  TheWraith   Sep-16-11 02:49 PM   #70 
     - "anti-nerve gas tablets"  TheWraith   Sep-16-11 02:38 PM   #69 
     - Heavy metal poisoning  FogerRox   Sep-16-11 07:31 PM   #84 
     - I highly doubt it  DissedByBush   Sep-16-11 07:36 PM   #85 
  - K&R n/t  Shining Jack   Sep-16-11 08:19 AM   #22 
  - War is not healthy  Roy Rolling   Sep-16-11 09:16 AM   #24 
  - so true....  gblady   Sep-16-11 10:05 AM   #33 
  - read the testimonies of veterans  riverwalker   Sep-16-11 09:24 AM   #26 
  - Excellent contribution to the thread. Thank you! nt  tpsbmam   Sep-16-11 11:00 AM   #42 
  - What about  lsewpershad   Sep-16-11 10:09 AM   #36 
  - I'd like to see a better article  caraher   Sep-16-11 10:21 AM   #40 
  - ITA.....I do have some research to post but I'm RACING out so I'll have to  tpsbmam   Sep-16-11 12:06 PM   #55 
  - thanks!  caraher   Sep-16-11 01:00 PM   #60 
  - Okay, here we go -- a fair amount of background info  tpsbmam   Sep-16-11 05:38 PM   #79 
  - Soldiers have been front line guinea pigs for a long time.  Fokker Trip   Sep-16-11 11:00 AM   #41 
  - Okay - did we use serin gas? Why would we hide this all those years?  jwirr   Sep-16-11 11:02 AM   #43 
  - Sigh....  PavePusher   Sep-16-11 11:27 AM   #48 
  - Seeing how an old friend of my husband's died of GWS,  Bette Noir   Sep-16-11 11:41 AM   #50 
  - Another way Rs BORROWED the money and where Ds get the bill.  Festivito   Sep-16-11 12:25 PM   #58 
  - Odd, I thought the brain was a physical thing with the mind being physical information...  originalpckelly   Sep-16-11 01:59 PM   #64 
  - I am NOT surprised....  orbitalman   Sep-16-11 02:55 PM   #71 
  - So DU bombs not to blame and Pentagon off the hook?  RedCloud   Sep-16-11 03:27 PM   #72 
  - Rule nothing out  KT2000   Sep-16-11 06:34 PM   #82 
  - And kids are STILL enlisting. Sheesh. To get brain damage for the assholes running this country and  valerief   Sep-16-11 03:52 PM   #73 
  - "They" will " de-bunk" this quickly and publicly.  dotymed   Sep-16-11 03:59 PM   #77 
  - K&R n/t  Duval   Sep-16-11 04:12 PM   #78 
  - I guess this way the Army doesnt have to mention the Larium,etc they gave  lunasun   Sep-16-11 06:57 PM   #83 
  - Two of our favorite people, Don Imus and Lou Dobbs were  gateley   Sep-16-11 07:44 PM   #86 
  - I posted this in a fluoroquinolone help group, most believe that was it  cpamomfromtexas   Sep-16-11 08:59 PM   #89 
     - See post #83 Lariam it is an anti malaria- Mefloquine Fq research is good and was  lunasun   Sep-16-11 11:35 PM   #93 
 

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