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Fri Sep-16-11 02:06 PM
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Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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| -Leaked Documents Reveal Major Speculators Behind 2008 Oil Price Shock: Hedge Funds, Koch, Big Banks, |
kpete |
Sep-15-11 05:46 PM |
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how about now? |
ixion |
Sep-15-11 05:47 PM |
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No This Time It's Different! |
wellst0nev0ter |
Sep-15-11 05:56 PM |
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Matt_Taibbi_Hater =EQUALS= Corporatist Shill |
vets74 |
Sep-16-11 07:06 AM |
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+1000 |
valerief |
Sep-16-11 04:07 PM |
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Yep, gas is almost as expensive now |
DissedByBush |
Sep-15-11 07:59 PM |
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it's 3.85 in CT, very close to price in '08 when oil was at $150/barrel |
wordpix |
Sep-15-11 11:44 PM |
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Now, dems blame the speculators, and repugs blame the dems |
bhikkhu |
Sep-15-11 09:44 PM |
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No, Paul Krugman said that oil speculation had nothing to do with it. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-15-11 11:25 PM |
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Krugman has good points on most things |
bhikkhu |
Sep-16-11 12:10 AM |
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Document your assertions |
CAcyclist |
Sep-16-11 09:49 AM |
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Here is Paul Krugman's actual opinion from 2009 |
CAcyclist |
Sep-16-11 09:53 AM |
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"Blame" ties to criminal acts. Goldman/Aleynikov "secret sauce" breaks exchanges' security |
vets74 |
Sep-16-11 07:53 AM |
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Kick and Rec one time for the teabaggers |
Kingofalldems |
Sep-15-11 05:51 PM |
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Won't do much good |
Andy823 |
Sep-15-11 09:20 PM |
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That must be why none of the MSM |
dotymed |
Sep-15-11 09:57 PM |
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Elucidate, my dear Watson. |
raccoon |
Sep-16-11 09:59 AM |
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Not at all. |
dotymed |
Sep-16-11 01:14 PM |
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Teabaggers have been told to |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:08 AM |
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kr nt |
bananas |
Sep-15-11 05:53 PM |
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kr |
Norrin Radd |
Sep-15-11 05:55 PM |
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A veritable who's who of criminal high rollers n/t |
Hydra |
Sep-15-11 05:57 PM |
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The extra money out of our pockets went to these named speculators. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Sep-15-11 06:00 PM |
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Nobody could have imagined... |
yardwork |
Sep-15-11 06:03 PM |
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"We need to end all regulation and let the 'free market' rule. Smirk." - Republicons |
SpiralHawk |
Sep-15-11 07:09 PM |
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Just like planes into buildings.........nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:11 AM |
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I am quite certain that OPEC had nothing to do with it... |
Cool Logic |
Sep-15-11 06:03 PM |
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But...High prices are Obama's fault! |
lindysalsagal |
Sep-15-11 06:14 PM |
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Well, of course, Obama isn't pals with any of these anti-democractic corporations ... is he? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-15-11 10:56 PM |
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Koch criminal enterprise. |
sarcasmo |
Sep-15-11 06:15 PM |
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Quite the group of players. eom. |
Hotler |
Sep-15-11 06:35 PM |
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The speculators are scum .... but .... |
cosmicone |
Sep-15-11 06:39 PM |
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No, we'd just be paying $8.00 a gallon like they do in Europe. |
bluesbassman |
Sep-15-11 08:06 PM |
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The $8/gallon in Europe is not due to demand |
cosmicone |
Sep-15-11 10:29 PM |
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what does this have to do with driving SUV's? And $8 gas in Europe & Canada gets you health care & |
wordpix |
Sep-15-11 11:48 PM |
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Thank you , Bernie. Now can we hang someone? |
aquart |
Sep-15-11 06:46 PM |
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Not as long as there are reality shows and millionaires posing as journalists. |
SomeGuyInEagan |
Sep-15-11 11:11 PM |
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Three words: Barack Hussein Obama |
tcaudilllg |
Sep-16-11 01:00 AM |
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'Brunch with Bernie' should be good tomorrow. |
santamargarita |
Sep-15-11 06:52 PM |
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Surprise!!!! Oh ya....NOT! |
SoapBox |
Sep-15-11 07:03 PM |
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Republicon Family Values = Screw America and Americans |
SpiralHawk |
Sep-15-11 07:07 PM |
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These people should be in prison. |
glinda |
Sep-15-11 07:13 PM |
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K&R |
davidwparker |
Sep-15-11 07:13 PM |
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And this should be posted to the canada group. Bank of Montreal huh? |
glinda |
Sep-15-11 07:14 PM |
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They 'play' the same game as all the others... |
Amonester |
Sep-15-11 10:10 PM |
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The Return of Koch |
EvilMonsanto |
Sep-15-11 07:28 PM |
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This is a perfect example of why the corporate mafia want another |
INdemo |
Sep-15-11 08:06 PM |
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Duplicate |
INdemo |
Sep-15-11 08:06 PM |
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Bet they did it because they knew everything was near collapse anyway |
catzies |
Sep-15-11 07:41 PM |
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Sounds plausible......nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:14 AM |
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The rich are fucking everyone. |
sakabatou |
Sep-15-11 07:45 PM |
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In every orifice. And when they're done with them, they break skin and make more. nt |
valerief |
Sep-15-11 09:03 PM |
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Simple fix |
bl968 |
Sep-15-11 07:46 PM |
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They used to have position limits. |
subterranean |
Sep-15-11 09:33 PM |
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I'm all for your solution. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:15 AM |
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RECOMMENDED. Bookmarked. Everyone should read and bookmark and re-read. |
JohnWxy |
Sep-15-11 07:46 PM |
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If we had a real Justice Dept. - or even a real FBI, this list would be investigated. nt |
cyberpj |
Sep-15-11 08:13 PM |
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If we had a real media they would report on it. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:18 AM |
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If they found out coffee was going to run short, they'd speculate on that |
bhikkhu |
Sep-15-11 08:20 PM |
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Legal, but hardly normal to trade bits of paper which represent items you never |
plumbob |
Sep-15-11 09:43 PM |
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Bob, you are plumb! |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:21 AM |
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an economy.... |
unkachuck |
Sep-15-11 08:22 PM |
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so we finally we have the details...... |
madrchsod |
Sep-15-11 08:28 PM |
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Shocker |
Mr Gerrity |
Sep-15-11 08:32 PM |
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Can we sue them? Class action? |
McCamy Taylor |
Sep-15-11 08:34 PM |
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Greed isn't a crime, esp. When you rig the laws |
Demeter |
Sep-15-11 09:49 PM |
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When are the big media conglomerates going to pick |
rainy |
Sep-15-11 08:37 PM |
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Yeah! |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:22 AM |
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It's just awesome that the Democrats have told us about this!!11!! |
Fumesucker |
Sep-15-11 08:43 PM |
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Koch werent speculators to the upside |
dd2003 |
Sep-15-11 08:51 PM |
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Leaked? This is an official statement of fact. |
WhiteTara |
Sep-15-11 09:01 PM |
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Make them take delivery... |
farmbo |
Sep-15-11 09:02 PM |
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It is not fair that we can't clone Bernie. K&R |
Jefferson23 |
Sep-15-11 09:07 PM |
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+1000 |
Luciferous |
Sep-15-11 09:21 PM |
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Senator Sanders |
classysassy |
Sep-15-11 09:13 PM |
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No, but it is a short list imo. Marcy Kaptur, the Congresswoman is another favorite of mine |
Jefferson23 |
Sep-15-11 09:18 PM |
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Favorite here too..........nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:24 AM |
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That makes two total. |
7wo7rees |
Sep-16-11 10:27 AM |
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Close.......nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:23 AM |
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Bernie is a hero. |
russspeakeasy |
Sep-15-11 09:31 PM |
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Google [sanders community health center ] |
vets74 |
Sep-16-11 08:09 AM |
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Can we call it racketeering now? |
Arctic Dave |
Sep-15-11 09:41 PM |
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Not unless there is the appearance of illegality. |
SnakeEyes |
Sep-16-11 11:55 AM |
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It is if the result is price fixing, which this seemed to be their planned outcome. |
Arctic Dave |
Sep-16-11 03:36 PM |
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Who knew? |
Octafish |
Sep-15-11 09:45 PM |
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I tried to point that out at the time |
Warpy |
Sep-15-11 09:55 PM |
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I took issue with Krugman on his blog in 2008.. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-16-11 03:32 PM |
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Thanks it's nice to know I'm not the only one. |
Warpy |
Sep-16-11 05:38 PM |
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It's how the GOP funds their presidential elections. |
Hubert Flottz |
Sep-15-11 09:57 PM |
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+1000% --- Costs corporations a lot to buy our government and elected officials -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-15-11 11:02 PM |
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SO much happened in 2008 yet it's seldom mentioned |
young_at_heart |
Sep-15-11 11:00 PM |
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You're right. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:47 AM |
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And let me guess, nothing will be done to them because they fund everyone's campaign. |
Arthur3284 |
Sep-15-11 11:26 PM |
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Did you figure that out all by yourself? |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:50 AM |
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kr nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-16-11 02:10 AM |
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Ed and Rachael should be talking about this... |
Sancho |
Sep-16-11 04:00 AM |
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What we were saying, but now confirmed.... |
dmosh42 |
Sep-16-11 04:10 AM |
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Quelle surprise. Non? |
Somawas |
Sep-16-11 04:28 AM |
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Hey, don't employees of some of those companies now work in the White House?? |
progressoid |
Sep-16-11 06:54 AM |
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I recall a story of some speculator who stated |
Javaman |
Sep-16-11 08:14 AM |
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Top 25 when all four groups are added together includes China??? as fourth? |
Festivito |
Sep-16-11 08:28 AM |
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Caaaaaaaaptainnnnnn Obvious flies in. |
obxhead |
Sep-16-11 09:02 AM |
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GREED |
blkmusclmachine |
Sep-16-11 09:53 AM |
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Let's blow that list of players up a little more |
chill_wind |
Sep-16-11 10:23 AM |
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k&r |
KansDem |
Sep-16-11 10:38 AM |
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No to new taxes, but yes to higher gas prices? |
SpankMe |
Sep-16-11 11:09 AM |
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where is koch in that list? i don't see it. |
DrunkenBoat |
Sep-16-11 01:20 PM |
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K&R... Love the pic |
disillusioned73 |
Sep-16-11 01:46 PM |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-16-11 02:06 PM |
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K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Sep-16-11 04:06 PM |
#107 |
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