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MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 06:55 PM
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47. driving in the US isnt a right its a privilege
Edited on Mon Sep-12-11 06:55 PM by MikeW
A privilege that can be taken away if your shown to be irresponsible.

Ask my dumb azzed neighbor ... 3rd DUI - judge told him hes done.

He rides a bike now, better for his liver.
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  -Calif. bill would protect unlicensed drivers from arrest alp227  Sep-12-11 04:40 PM   #0 
  - I'm pretty sure that the ONE THING that will stop someone from driving is NOT HAVING A CAR. n/t  Ian David   Sep-12-11 04:41 PM   #1 
  - Did it stop you?  Downwinder   Sep-12-11 04:46 PM   #2 
     - I can honestly say that I have never driven a car when I did not have one to drive. n/t  Ian David   Sep-12-11 07:25 PM   #56 
        - I can honestly say that I drove well be for I had a license or my own vehicle.  Downwinder   Sep-12-11 08:21 PM   #63 
           - If you drive like you write, god help us all. n/t  Ian David   Sep-13-11 06:54 AM   #75 
  - You want to impound the cars of people who are barred from licenses  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 04:48 PM   #3 
  - first of all those people aren't supposed to be here in the first place  alp227   Sep-12-11 04:53 PM   #5 
  - None of that justifies grabbing the property of working families.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 05:45 PM   #19 
  - apparently many working class US citizens also are unlicensed drivers?  alp227   Sep-12-11 05:47 PM   #22 
  - Maybe you have never been poor. I have.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 05:50 PM   #25 
  - what does being poor have to do with not being able to get a license?  alp227   Sep-12-11 06:00 PM   #28 
     - Being unlicensed doesn't mean you never had one.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:05 PM   #29 
     - as far as immigration goes, it's more of an argument for the feds to do something  alp227   Sep-12-11 06:09 PM   #31 
        - You may not believe this but a ticket over $50 dollars  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:16 PM   #34 
        - that person should not be driving a car  pitohui   Sep-12-11 09:00 PM   # 
           - I drove for a year  christx30   Sep-13-11 04:01 PM   #93 
           - Or you have decided that your family still needs to eat.  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 09:58 PM   #111 
        - The poor are least likely to be able...  awoke_in_2003   Sep-12-11 07:24 PM   #55 
           - well thank you for filling my holes in empathy then  alp227   Sep-12-11 07:51 PM   #59 
           - most can be renewed online now  cutlassmama   Sep-13-11 04:45 AM   #73 
              - In Texas...  awoke_in_2003   Sep-13-11 12:39 PM   #82 
              - and that is not so easy for many  CountAllVotes   Sep-13-11 12:42 PM   #83 
     - Very often, having the car makes people poor  KamaAina   Sep-15-11 11:36 AM   #132 
  - Two years ago  christx30   Sep-12-11 07:41 PM   #57 
  - Thank you so much for defending some of our most vulnerable families. nt  ZombieHorde   Sep-12-11 06:18 PM   #36 
     - I guess there are people who are so fortunate  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:21 PM   #38 
        - try that argument on people injured or friends of people killed  alp227   Sep-12-11 07:52 PM   #60 
           - But you really aren't addressing it at all.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 07:57 PM   #61 
              - if you read Don Rosenberg's story in the article  alp227   Sep-12-11 08:01 PM   #62 
                 - You are generalizing from one story? Okay. n/t  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 02:01 PM   #86 
                    - as much as i feel sorry for poor people, the law should favor public safety  alp227   Sep-13-11 05:34 PM   #96 
                       - Yes, the law should favor public safety and this is exactly why  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 09:45 PM   #109 
  - We've tried to get  Plucketeer   Sep-12-11 05:55 PM   #26 
  - Flags are bullshit; human lives are real.  ZombieHorde   Sep-12-11 06:17 PM   #35 
  - and if you are descended from European invaders,  roody   Sep-14-11 02:05 PM   #127 
  - Way to drag disability into this  KamaAina   Sep-15-11 11:38 AM   #133 
  - If you have no license you are unlikley to have insurance  ChandlerJr   Sep-12-11 04:54 PM   #7 
     - Why my daughter's car?  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 05:42 PM   #18 
     - Running into your daughter as a pedestrian  dipsydoodle   Sep-12-11 06:08 PM   #30 
        - Most of the undocumented people I know are in a family network  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:11 PM   #32 
           - I meant  dipsydoodle   Sep-12-11 06:38 PM   #44 
           - Actually I wasn't referencing citizenship status  ChandlerJr   Sep-12-11 07:12 PM   #51 
           - Well immigrants have a much lower crime rate than the general pop  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 07:18 PM   #53 
           - Insurance coverage is voided when it's revealed that the at-fault driver has no license.  Psephos   Sep-13-11 12:30 AM   #70 
              - What it means is that while you don't get into accidents  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 01:21 PM   #85 
                 - It's not "proof" of insurance if the insurance is void because of an unlicensed driver. :)  Psephos   Sep-13-11 02:17 PM   #88 
                    - Sure there is. It's in the glove box with the registration.  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 02:43 PM   #89 
                       - Oh, paper in the glovebox: problem solved! How could I have been so dense? :)  Psephos   Sep-14-11 01:49 PM   #125 
                          - I have insurance against uninsured drivers.  hunter   Sep-14-11 09:35 PM   #130 
                             - Me too.  Psephos   Sep-15-11 12:04 AM   #131 
  - It's an interesting stop-gap that puts pressure on to face real immigration issues.  truthisfreedom   Sep-12-11 04:51 PM   #4 
  - Drivers licenses in CA is not going to pressure a single member of Congress to do anything.  former9thward   Sep-12-11 05:06 PM   #11 
  - Probably not  RZM   Sep-12-11 05:12 PM   #12 
  - Both parties are paralyzed.  former9thward   Sep-12-11 05:17 PM   #13 
     - Both parties have some very different opinions on this in their own tents as well  RZM   Sep-12-11 05:24 PM   #14 
  - a similar thing briefly happened in NY, then was suddenly reversed i think n/t  alp227   Sep-13-11 05:37 PM   #97 
     - Whatever happened in NY it had no effect on the immigration views of Congress.  former9thward   Sep-13-11 05:44 PM   #99 
  - No, it doesn't. It just puts money in the state coffers  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 05:46 PM   #20 
  - It doesn't "protect unlicensed drivers from arrest," ...  dtexdem   Sep-12-11 04:53 PM   #6 
  - yes it does. as i brought up in another post  alp227   Sep-12-11 05:05 PM   #10 
  - They use these "DUI checkpoints" to shake down our  hang a left   Sep-12-11 05:46 PM   #21 
     - lesson learned: never profit off enforcing the law  alp227   Sep-12-11 05:49 PM   #24 
  - This kind of stuff is so interesting and stems directly from the lack of a comprehensive policy  RZM   Sep-12-11 04:55 PM   #8 
  - Somebody from PA correct me here if I'm wrong...  Demoiselle   Sep-12-11 05:04 PM   #9 
  - You are not wrong. The complication is in Secure-ID states  dmallind   Sep-12-11 05:36 PM   #17 
  - So what's the purpose of these checkpoints again?  hunter   Sep-12-11 05:33 PM   #15 
  - Shouldn't it be a 'fix-it' ticket....  Tikki   Sep-12-11 05:34 PM   #16 
  - WTF? I am SO against this...  SoapBox   Sep-12-11 05:49 PM   #23 
  - Telll you what.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 05:56 PM   #27 
  - well stated  dana_b   Sep-13-11 03:17 PM   #90 
  - Quotas? I thought that the 1965 immigration law dumped them  alp227   Sep-13-11 05:40 PM   #98 
  - Having the police act as immigration agents is a bad, bad, idea.  hunter   Sep-12-11 06:33 PM   #43 
     - exactly! +1000  krabigirl   Sep-13-11 12:33 AM   #71 
  - Lots of worms in that can....  Bennyboy   Sep-12-11 06:15 PM   #33 
  - I was really happy when San Francisco stopped impounding cars in this way.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:19 PM   #37 
     - Well, at least for the illegals, they shouldn't even be a wage earner as  kelly1mm   Sep-12-11 06:31 PM   #41 
        - If you are waiting for them all to lay down and die, you will be disappointed. n/t  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:32 PM   #42 
        - No, not lay down and die, just self deport. If we were as a country  kelly1mm   Sep-12-11 06:49 PM   #45 
           - Immigration is at a 60 year low.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 07:00 PM   #49 
              - I agree that NAFTA was and is a load of crap. I also know that incoming  kelly1mm   Sep-12-11 07:11 PM   #50 
                 - Not really. You suggest a fine that our government would never impose  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 07:15 PM   #52 
                    - OK, you are right about the likelyhood of my plan being adopted and  kelly1mm   Sep-12-11 07:22 PM   #54 
        - "Illegal" is an adjective, not a noun.  roody   Sep-13-11 06:23 PM   #102 
           - Incorrect. It is both a noun and an adjective. Link to Merriam-Webster  kelly1mm   Sep-13-11 10:21 PM   #113 
  - This gives a green light to unsafe drivers  bigworld   Sep-12-11 06:24 PM   #39 
  - Like unsafe drivers ever waited for a green light.  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:29 PM   #40 
  - not at all  MikeW   Sep-12-11 06:51 PM   #46 
     - You know what I do with people who call me an idiot, Mike?  EFerrari   Sep-12-11 06:58 PM   #48 
        - hmmm  MikeW   Sep-12-11 08:48 PM   #66 
        - I don't know about you, but as a frequent message board poster on this site and others  totodeinhere   Sep-13-11 12:50 PM   #84 
  - Undocumented immigrants tend to be extremely safe drivers.  roody   Sep-14-11 02:04 PM   #126 
  - driving in the US isnt a right its a privilege  MikeW   Sep-12-11 06:55 PM   #47 
  - Driving drunk is about driving.  hunter   Sep-12-11 07:44 PM   #58 
  - not taking the test makes you just as hazardous  MikeW   Sep-12-11 08:46 PM   #65 
  - So let them take the test.  hunter   Sep-12-11 09:13 PM   #68 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-12-11 09:00 PM   #67 
     - Um, yeah.  hunter   Sep-12-11 09:20 PM   #69 
     - "Illegal" is an adjective, not a noun. "Illegals" is not a word.  roody   Sep-13-11 06:26 PM   #103 
        - Incorrect. It is both a noun and an adjective. Link to Merriam-Webster  kelly1mm   Sep-13-11 10:24 PM   #114 
  - It may not be a right but it is a necessity of life for many..  Downwinder   Sep-12-11 08:39 PM   #64 
  - good. DUI checkpoints are to catch drunk drivers, not for immigration checks or other things.  krabigirl   Sep-13-11 12:33 AM   #72 
  - This is so simple, it would be funny if it were not so pathetic ...  Nihil   Sep-13-11 06:48 AM   #74 
  - No, it's this simple...  hunter   Sep-13-11 10:01 AM   #78 
     - The only abuse in my suggestion was being commited by the person driving illegally.  Nihil   Sep-13-11 10:42 AM   #80 
        - It's not a "risk of abuse," it HAS been abused.  hunter   Sep-13-11 11:15 AM   #81 
           - if your driving without a license  MikeW   Sep-13-11 06:21 PM   #101 
              - So you're okay with random searches and seizures...  hunter   Sep-13-11 07:39 PM   #105 
                 - nope but ...  MikeW   Sep-14-11 06:42 PM   #128 
  - Please tell me Gov. Brown has the good sense to veto this?  Chan790   Sep-13-11 07:18 AM   #76 
  - Illegal aliens driving illegally...  -..__...   Sep-13-11 08:19 AM   #77 
  - Promise?  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 02:04 PM   #87 
  - Well.... maybe if I was offered a position working for the BP or ICE...  -..__...   Sep-13-11 03:48 PM   #91 
     - The Stasi is laying people off right now so I think you're pretty safe. n/t  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 03:52 PM   #92 
        - I never said it had to be a paying position.  -..__...   Sep-13-11 04:01 PM   #94 
           - You want to join their volunteer division? Cool.  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 04:52 PM   #95 
              - Nahhhh...  -..__...   Sep-13-11 09:00 PM   #108 
                 - I saw a short documentary on border militias that should have been made into a cartoon.  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 10:04 PM   #112 
                    - All, some or a few?  -..__...   Sep-13-11 10:38 PM   #116 
                       - I think it was on LINKTv although it could have been on Free Speech TV .  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 10:52 PM   #117 
                       - I think it was this one:  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 10:59 PM   #118 
                          - Thanks...  -..__...   Sep-13-11 11:19 PM   #120 
                             - That's just the trailer.  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 11:20 PM   #121 
  - We won't miss you!  roody   Sep-13-11 06:29 PM   #104 
     - Likewise...  -..__...   Sep-13-11 08:54 PM   #107 
        - You probably would not enjoy seeing millions of Mexican people.  roody   Sep-14-11 10:55 AM   #124 
  - I have no problem with protecting undocumented people.  Unvanguard   Sep-13-11 10:20 AM   #79 
  - There is a better solution.  hunter   Sep-13-11 07:54 PM   #106 
     - That makes a lot of sense. CA residents should be able to get licenses.  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 09:56 PM   #110 
     - Undocumented California residents absolutely need access to drivers' licenses.  Unvanguard   Sep-14-11 12:14 AM   #122 
  - I'm thinking that lazy, white, priviledged teens are going to enjoy this law, too -  lynne   Sep-13-11 06:06 PM   #100 
  - Exactly  Mz Pip   Sep-13-11 10:33 PM   #115 
  - If there is no offense but no license, there is no harm in it.  EFerrari   Sep-13-11 11:03 PM   #119 
  - Hope it passes. n/t  AverageJoe90   Sep-14-11 12:41 AM   #123 
  - So why would anyone pay for a licence?  Synicus Maximus   Sep-14-11 07:45 PM   #129 

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