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Tue Aug-23-11 12:54 AM
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| 143. i think that must be the case, as he is so attracted to & attractive to "crazy & depressed" women. |
| -Chronic fatigue syndrome researchers face death threats from militants |
panzerfaust |
Aug-21-11 08:12 AM |
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I suffered from CFS for many years. |
theoldman |
Aug-21-11 08:22 AM |
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Problem is that scientists have not found a way to measure the link between the mind and |
JDPriestly |
Aug-21-11 02:46 PM |
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Our air, food and water are so heavily laden with toxins that our bodies are |
Lorien |
Aug-21-11 11:59 PM |
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exactly. nt |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:08 AM |
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What unscientific nonsense. |
rayofreason |
Aug-22-11 07:23 AM |
#106 |
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Enlighten yourself: |
Lorien |
Aug-23-11 12:00 AM |
#133 |
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Get real and see my other response |
rayofreason |
Aug-23-11 09:42 AM |
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Exactly. |
DeSwiss |
Aug-22-11 07:58 PM |
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the violence is prob. from family members who have had relatives killed/maimed |
pitohui |
Aug-22-11 02:05 PM |
#120 |
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Being angry does not make vile invective |
Pamela Troy |
Aug-23-11 10:20 AM |
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Immune system out of whack that's what I've heard. n/t |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Aug-21-11 08:27 AM |
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adrenal system |
Locrian |
Aug-21-11 09:01 AM |
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Which begs the question, how to restore? I know there are ways but are they "acceptable" in |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Aug-21-11 10:14 AM |
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they are scared to death of people taking hydrocortisone. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Aug-21-11 10:37 AM |
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thank you for your post. I hope things get better. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-21-11 10:57 AM |
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My daughter took cortisone for about 2 years when she was a baby |
jwirr |
Aug-21-11 10:58 AM |
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Perhaps this will be of value, perhaps not I hope it will. |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Aug-21-11 11:13 AM |
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Thank you. |
jwirr |
Aug-21-11 11:32 AM |
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Stress is a killer....and it |
femrap |
Aug-21-11 11:06 AM |
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I'm right there with you. |
anamandujano |
Aug-21-11 12:43 PM |
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Same here regarding... |
femrap |
Aug-21-11 02:20 PM |
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Oh my.... I will keep you in my prayers if that's alright... and from your link, amen. |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Aug-21-11 11:18 AM |
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I'm so sorry to hear your story. |
JDPriestly |
Aug-21-11 02:52 PM |
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JESUS. |
MADem |
Aug-21-11 10:27 PM |
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Is that a bridge rectifier? |
zeemike |
Aug-21-11 01:56 PM |
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Sure is, ain't it cool?? n/t |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Aug-21-11 04:15 PM |
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that's what i've been told. |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:09 AM |
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Mind and body are one and the same. |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-21-11 08:28 AM |
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Agree. However, IMO, what we think of as the physical causes problems that we think of as mental or |
No Elephants |
Aug-21-11 09:39 AM |
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The woman had migraine headaches. Her story is a classic. My own migraines |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-23-11 11:29 AM |
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I don't advocate violence against anyone. It is deplorable. But we should understand |
LiberalLoner |
Aug-21-11 08:32 AM |
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Thanks for the insight, LL |
SpiralHawk |
Aug-21-11 08:45 AM |
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Lyme |
colbertforpresident |
Aug-21-11 08:48 AM |
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i've been tested for lyme, also been tested |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:12 AM |
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Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. |
emcguffie |
Aug-22-11 07:48 AM |
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Why? |
RobinA |
Aug-22-11 07:54 PM |
#125 |
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This isn't the natural background radiation. |
emcguffie |
Aug-23-11 01:11 PM |
#157 |
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Why Would The Government |
RobinA |
Aug-23-11 09:51 PM |
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A blood test will show that you have the disease. |
theoldman |
Aug-21-11 08:53 AM |
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What blood test will show what disease? |
Hissyspit |
Aug-21-11 10:04 AM |
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Docs don't say "eat healthy even if.. |
Schema Thing |
Aug-21-11 08:58 AM |
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Problem is, if you attribute an illness to depression, you stop looking for other causes. |
No Elephants |
Aug-21-11 09:41 AM |
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Some people might. Serious scientist would and will keep looking. "depression" |
Schema Thing |
Aug-21-11 10:30 AM |
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they said in the early 80s that aids was merely "gay guilt", I guess they should've been |
StarsInHerHair |
Aug-21-11 08:17 PM |
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"IF" being the key word. |
No Elephants |
Aug-22-11 03:06 AM |
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Yes. No excuse for threats of violence here. But the medical community often reacts antagonistically |
DirkGently |
Aug-21-11 10:19 AM |
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Very interesting. I am sorry you experienced that. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-21-11 10:19 AM |
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Of course |
femrap |
Aug-21-11 11:13 AM |
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I had a hysterectomy 9 weeks ago, so that pretty much fixed the endo for me - took the ovaries |
LiberalLoner |
Aug-21-11 06:39 PM |
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When one of my brothers was in grade school, he started having |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-21-11 01:42 PM |
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Jesus. That is exactly the kind hostile reaction to a doctor's own ignorance that drives people mad. |
DirkGently |
Aug-22-11 09:26 AM |
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Oh, I hear that |
MorningGlow |
Aug-21-11 08:04 PM |
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Doctors hate women. I am convinced of it. Very misogynistic profession. n/t |
LiberalLoner |
Aug-22-11 07:43 AM |
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Unfortunately I agree |
MorningGlow |
Aug-22-11 08:54 AM |
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well, they're not, so think of another hypothesis. you don't think docs treat male |
indurancevile |
Aug-23-11 12:41 AM |
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Actually studies have shown that doctors (both male and female) ignore |
LiberalLoner |
Aug-23-11 11:06 AM |
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the doctor in that story WAS a woman. it's not about hating women. it's |
indurancevile |
Aug-23-11 12:39 AM |
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I agree. At the very least, they don't take them seriously. nt |
raccoon |
Aug-29-11 02:31 PM |
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the doc was a "she" as well. so i think it's not about women, but power in general. |
indurancevile |
Aug-23-11 12:37 AM |
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Same exact thing going on with Lyme disease. |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-22-11 10:13 PM |
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Do you also understand the reaction of people |
Pamela Troy |
Aug-23-11 10:21 AM |
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From what I understand, it is a cousin of fibromyalgia -- and they've finally acknowledged that. |
MADem |
Aug-21-11 09:41 AM |
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another made up disease... |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-21-11 01:49 PM |
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*Golf clap* |
Hydra |
Aug-21-11 02:01 PM |
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'spinal meningitis and was coughing up blood by the bucketful' |
King_David |
Aug-21-11 10:18 PM |
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House might...after 52 minutes. n/t |
rayofreason |
Aug-22-11 07:26 AM |
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Totally incorrect |
MorningGlow |
Aug-21-11 07:59 PM |
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I've dated a bunch of women with these |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-21-11 08:10 PM |
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You lack both empathy and intelligence. Try GOOGLE, you will be shocked. nt |
MADem |
Aug-21-11 10:22 PM |
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Tell me I'm lazy and crazy. |
Hissyspit |
Aug-22-11 12:42 AM |
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have i dated you? nt |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-22-11 06:09 AM |
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So the basis of your diagnosis is dating? |
Hissyspit |
Aug-22-11 06:12 AM |
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The basis of my diagnosis |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-22-11 06:22 AM |
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That's not much of a basis. |
Hissyspit |
Aug-22-11 06:28 AM |
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you mean.. |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-22-11 06:34 AM |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Aug-22-11 03:08 AM |
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Hi, REPUBLICAN! |
Mimosa |
Aug-22-11 03:22 AM |
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oh yes.. you are on to me.. |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-22-11 06:10 AM |
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If that's the kind of women you've been consistently dating |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-22-11 10:43 PM |
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"until they got so bad she needed treatment"... that's something to consider. |
boppers |
Aug-21-11 10:28 PM |
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"I have never, ever, met someone with a healthy job and family life... |
MorningGlow |
Aug-21-11 09:51 PM |
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We know what we are dealing with, here. |
MADem |
Aug-21-11 10:24 PM |
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True nuff |
MorningGlow |
Aug-21-11 10:33 PM |
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Just another lazy ass knuckle dragging mouth breathing misogynist who projects his |
Lorien |
Aug-22-11 12:07 AM |
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well said. nt |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:20 AM |
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Wow, aren't YOU ..... uninformed. NIH and other federal agencies beg to differ. |
MADem |
Aug-21-11 10:18 PM |
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I hope he does, actually, then perhaps he may no longer be such a prick |
StarsInHerHair |
Aug-23-11 06:32 PM |
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and the earth is flat too, right? Climate change doesn't exist in your world I'm sure |
Lorien |
Aug-22-11 12:01 AM |
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you're wrong. i had a great job |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:19 AM |
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Adrenal burn-out often is triggered by pneumonia... |
InvisibleTouch |
Aug-23-11 09:16 PM |
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thanks. i'll check it out. |
DesertFlower |
Aug-24-11 12:01 AM |
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You have NO IDEA what you are talking about. I would alert on your comment, but I want |
Hissyspit |
Aug-22-11 12:41 AM |
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did you read about New Zealand green mussels? Supposed to be anti-inflamation |
StarsInHerHair |
Aug-23-11 06:35 PM |
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You could not be more uninformed. |
emcguffie |
Aug-23-11 02:18 PM |
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it's kind of like how they reacted to those with MS a century ago, they'd beat |
StarsInHerHair |
Aug-23-11 06:37 PM |
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What psychological components would those be? |
Hissyspit |
Aug-21-11 10:10 AM |
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Yep. The growth rate of the illness corresponds with the amount of "allowable" |
Lorien |
Aug-22-11 12:10 AM |
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Exactly to which toxins.. |
rayofreason |
Aug-22-11 07:41 AM |
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don't confuse them with facts... |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-22-11 08:24 AM |
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I Keep Making |
RobinA |
Aug-22-11 08:07 PM |
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These, oh poorly informed one: |
Lorien |
Aug-23-11 12:02 AM |
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Newspaper articles? Anecdotes? Seriously???? |
rayofreason |
Aug-23-11 09:38 AM |
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I Thought This |
RobinA |
Aug-23-11 09:55 PM |
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Yes, pretty damn funny. |
rayofreason |
Aug-23-11 10:31 PM |
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How long has CFS been documented as an illness and has anyone been following a curve? |
Rozlee |
Aug-21-11 10:15 AM |
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I remember adrenal studies at NIH in the nineties. |
MADem |
Aug-21-11 10:55 PM |
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A friend's commander in Iraq was just put on disability due to his CFS and fibromyalgia |
Lorien |
Aug-22-11 12:13 AM |
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gulf war syndrome and CFS are very similar. |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:24 AM |
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"as dangerous and uncompromising as animal rights extremists" |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-21-11 10:21 AM |
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Mostly they destroy property. |
alarimer |
Aug-21-11 05:15 PM |
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Doesn't get much more dogmatic than that |
LanternWaste |
Aug-22-11 10:04 AM |
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doctors too often label something they don't understand as |
demigoddess |
Aug-21-11 11:03 AM |
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Sometimes Doctors really seem clueless when it comes to diagnosing an illness. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Aug-21-11 11:11 AM |
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my mom had almost an identical story -- |
elehhhhna |
Aug-21-11 11:51 AM |
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That is one very nasty condition to have. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Aug-23-11 06:45 AM |
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my son had CFS |
flyingfysh |
Aug-21-11 11:55 AM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-21-11 11:55 AM |
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Many of the responses to this post |
drmeow |
Aug-21-11 12:05 PM |
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THANK-YOU! I am not a scientist or a doctor but... |
SkyDaddy7 |
Aug-21-11 01:25 PM |
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Look at response #40 |
Hydra |
Aug-21-11 02:16 PM |
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How many of these scientists ARE in fact in the pay of drug and insurance companies. |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-22-11 11:08 PM |
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usually unless it is a clinical trial |
drmeow |
Aug-23-11 12:08 AM |
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From what I understand, alot of the NIH funded research |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-23-11 12:19 AM |
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I said psychological health research |
drmeow |
Aug-24-11 01:33 AM |
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Many doctors are not even trained in scientific methods. |
alarimer |
Aug-21-11 05:18 PM |
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Great post drmeow. |
boppers |
Aug-21-11 10:13 PM |
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Nice point |
drmeow |
Aug-23-11 12:11 AM |
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nicely said. n/t |
rayofreason |
Aug-22-11 07:42 AM |
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I went through over 30 years and probably as many doctors |
zalinda |
Aug-21-11 12:19 PM |
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where did you live when this "bloom" occurred? |
pitohui |
Aug-22-11 02:12 PM |
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I lived in California, in Ventura |
zalinda |
Aug-22-11 04:20 PM |
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Just FWI, Lyme is caused by a bacteria, not a virus. |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-22-11 11:19 PM |
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i've been suffering with CFS/ME for 22 years. |
DesertFlower |
Aug-21-11 01:36 PM |
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you might want to try a real doctor. nt. |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-21-11 07:51 PM |
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i have a "real" doctor who specializes in |
DesertFlower |
Aug-21-11 08:33 PM |
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By and large, its simply "being crazy and depressed". nt. |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-21-11 01:47 PM |
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Just logging in to put you on "Ignore" |
StandingInLeftField |
Aug-21-11 05:48 PM |
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I'll bet you didn't put me on ignore. nt |
naaman fletcher |
Aug-21-11 05:55 PM |
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well said. nt |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:29 AM |
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Either will do. |
Hissyspit |
Aug-22-11 01:05 AM |
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This almost makes me wish |
drmeow |
Aug-23-11 12:15 AM |
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wrong button |
Sentath |
Aug-24-11 12:37 PM |
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depressed people don't go from doctor to doctor |
DesertFlower |
Aug-22-11 12:29 AM |
#90 |
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i think that must be the case, as he is so attracted to & attractive to "crazy & depressed" women. |
indurancevile |
Aug-23-11 12:54 AM |
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WOW! So many e'experts' without medical degrees |
cayanne |
Aug-21-11 03:03 PM |
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I have always wondered if CFS is a side effect of chronic stress. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-21-11 06:55 PM |
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Cortisol is a miracle drug we produce |
Hydra |
Aug-21-11 07:02 PM |
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Yup, chronic stress is an artifact of our society and is not natural. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-21-11 07:09 PM |
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Our society models us after machines |
Hydra |
Aug-21-11 07:15 PM |
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Bingo, it's the big reasin I took up meditation, to shed the stress. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-23-11 12:04 PM |
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then you would have to explain why people not suffering "chronic stress" get it |
pitohui |
Aug-22-11 02:19 PM |
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Most people in out modern society have at least some chronic stress. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-23-11 12:03 PM |
#155 |
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Crazy people making crazy threats? |
AngkorWot |
Aug-21-11 07:14 PM |
#58 |
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I have CFS. I don't make crazy threats and I am not crazy. |
Hissyspit |
Aug-22-11 12:48 AM |
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Hi there, Hissyspit. |
emcguffie |
Aug-22-11 07:54 AM |
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For years |
hyphenate |
Aug-21-11 08:33 PM |
#65 |
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In 1994 Abbott Northwestern Hospital decreed that one course |
kickysnana |
Aug-21-11 10:55 PM |
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Disclaimer: Some but not all diagnosed CFS is Lyme Disease.n/t |
kickysnana |
Aug-21-11 10:57 PM |
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Oh, my god, what a story. |
emcguffie |
Aug-22-11 07:58 AM |
#113 |
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BS big time. CFS is probably related to chemical exposure |
Mimosa |
Aug-22-11 03:20 AM |
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It could be pond scum. |
emcguffie |
Aug-22-11 08:00 AM |
#114 |
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avid gardeners may have also had untreated lyme disease |
pitohui |
Aug-22-11 02:07 PM |
#121 |
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If you can find a doctor willing to prescribe it |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-23-11 12:49 AM |
#142 |
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they destroy lives, they literally kill victims, when they dx serious illness as stress |
pitohui |
Aug-22-11 02:00 PM |
#119 |
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Deadly illness is not caused by stress? |
Pamela Troy |
Aug-23-11 10:24 AM |
#150 |
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Osler's Web |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Aug-22-11 08:57 PM |
#128 |
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i don't believe there is any significant number of "militants" threatening docs over this. |
indurancevile |
Aug-23-11 12:55 AM |
#144 |
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Given the tenor of some of the posts here... |
Pamela Troy |
Aug-23-11 10:25 AM |
#151 |
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If you have CFS, be sure to get tested for sleep apnea and other sleep disorders. |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-23-11 11:33 AM |
#154 |
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Spleen Apnoea and ME easily distinguished |
spooniebill |
Aug-24-11 07:43 AM |
#169 |
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Response to the Observer article |
spooniebill |
Aug-24-11 07:40 AM |
#168 |
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"We're not crazy, and if say that we are, we'll prove that you are right!" |
Freddie Stubbs |
Aug-24-11 01:18 PM |
#171 |
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Unless the article is mostly a bunch of shit. |
Hissyspit |
Aug-29-11 04:54 PM |
#173 |
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