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tweeternik Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 10:38 AM
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116. You're telling me to get
fucking real and then throw around names like Sanders, Dean and Kucinich? Interesting. Good luck with that! They have about as much chance of getting elected President as you or I have.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be pissed off ... I'm pissed off too! I'm not saying you shouldn't state your beliefs AND fight for them. I'm saying realistically, this country is not in a place NOW to implement policies that you and I and most DU'ers believe in. I wish it were different. But, I believe the guy we have NOW is trying ....

Sure, he "caved" right in the beginning on single-payer and then later on the public option, but as President he had to be pragmatic and realize he did not have the votes to get this stuff passed NOW! Sad, but true. I am truly sorry about that, but this fight is not over .... it will just take time.

No, I'm not saying he should not be called out on campaign rhetoric .... he should be. But, recognize it as rhetoric during the campaign .... this stuff still has to be passed by Congress!

The first thing we can do is to work to give him a real Democratic majority in the next Congress .... not one with so many "blue dogs". But, that won't be easy. This country is not as progressive as either of us would like.

I see the needs in my community as well. I am doing everything I can individually to try to help here. It is so depressing sometimes. We (progressives) need to be united in the fight we are currently waging against the right-wing extremists in our country. Top on the list nationally is to re-elect Obama and get a Democratic congress in 2012. Maybe we can then see more progressive legislation implemented.

No need for the roulette wheel, thanks anyway.
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  -AP source: Obama to give major jobs speech Omaha Steve  Aug-17-11 05:58 AM   #0 
  - yada yada yada.... nt  boston bean   Aug-17-11 06:00 AM   #1 
  - I was going to say that! LOL  newfie11   Aug-17-11 07:23 AM   #12 
  - Y'all are so witty .......  tweeternik   Aug-17-11 08:29 AM   #28 
  - exactly.  ixion   Aug-17-11 08:12 AM   #19 
  - You must be in a very high position. Clearly, you've seen this  MineralMan   Aug-17-11 08:42 AM   #30 
     - Exactly ...... thank you !!  tweeternik   Aug-17-11 10:34 AM   #60 
     - Yes!! Just like YOU always knew Obama  JusticeForAll   Aug-18-11 12:48 AM   #105 
        - My, my such language .....  tweeternik   Aug-18-11 07:53 AM   #109 
           - Kindly  JusticeForAll   Aug-18-11 09:12 AM   #113 
              - You're telling me to get  tweeternik   Aug-18-11 10:38 AM   #116 
     - I have seen 3 years of it  newfie11   Aug-18-11 07:42 AM   #108 
        - Oh no ... another Obama should be more like .....  tweeternik   Aug-18-11 08:37 AM   #112 
           - excuse me  newfie11   Aug-18-11 12:05 PM   #118 
              - LMFAO!!  tweeternik   Aug-18-11 12:31 PM   #119 
  - Im going to choose to be open minded. I trust Obama.  Firebrand Gary   Aug-17-11 06:06 AM   #2 
  - We've hardly noticed Obama fighting at all  mazzarro   Aug-17-11 10:46 AM   #61 
  - He has lost credibility. He needs to put the plan into operation  JDPriestly   Aug-17-11 12:22 PM   #75 
  - Tax cuts to help the long-term unemployed. Who aren't making any money that can be taxed. Right.  Demit   Aug-17-11 06:10 AM   #3 
  - unemployment payments are taxed  Thav   Aug-17-11 07:55 AM   #17 
  - And the one's no longer getting unemployment benefits?  mazzarro   Aug-17-11 10:52 AM   #65 
  - Yes, And Perhaps Tax Cuts To Help The Working Homeless  left on green only   Aug-18-11 02:24 AM   #106 
     - Excuse me, but how does my vocal support or lack of it influence this president's actions?  Demit   Aug-18-11 08:13 AM   #111 
  - Good politics  BeyondGeography   Aug-17-11 06:10 AM   #4 
  - Dupe that doesn't belong in LBN  FBaggins   Aug-17-11 06:15 AM   #5 
  - The comments belong on a Republican message board...eom  Kolesar   Aug-17-11 08:22 AM   #23 
     - Really? Republicans aren't usually viewed as the rational party.  FBaggins   Aug-17-11 08:57 AM   #39 
  - CBO: Offsetting the deficit cost of the President's jobs program dollar-for-dollar is UNNECESSARY  ProgressiveEconomist   Aug-17-11 06:16 AM   #6 
  - the CBO, lolol, now there is a source you can trust 100% of the time... to be wrong  stockholmer   Aug-17-11 06:53 AM   #7 
     - Past CBO growth rate assumptions have been way too low. A CBO report URL  ProgressiveEconomist   Aug-17-11 07:38 AM   #14 
     - you're just staggeringly wrong, the CBO has consistently overestimated growth, & overstated revenues  stockholmer   Aug-17-11 08:25 AM   #25 
     - Didn't the CBO correctly predict that the Bush Tax Cuts would balloon the deficit?  GOTV   Aug-17-11 09:10 AM   #44 
        - even counting in the actual impact of the horrid Bush Tax cuts, the CBO is tremendouslly off in its  stockholmer   Aug-17-11 10:56 AM   #69 
           - Raise the taxes on the rich (so that they will invest more)  JDPriestly   Aug-17-11 12:29 PM   #76 
              - sounds like a good plan to me!  stockholmer   Aug-18-11 12:04 AM   #104 
  - How many jobs do you think he'll ask us to sacrifice?  Scuba   Aug-17-11 07:00 AM   #8 
  - How many jobs the *3* trade agreements he's pushing will amount to?  Donnachaidh   Aug-17-11 10:24 AM   #58 
     - I agree and this is really bad for us  udbcrzy2   Aug-17-11 12:49 PM   #82 
        - I hear ya!  Donnachaidh   Aug-17-11 02:41 PM   #88 
  - in case anyone thinks this is going to be a rehash  Enrique   Aug-17-11 07:06 AM   #9 
  - Wow, imagine that. A focus on jobs!  woo me with science   Aug-17-11 07:08 AM   #10 
  - funny how he remembers jobs when he's running for reelection...  Javaman   Aug-17-11 07:52 AM   #15 
     - Great post.  woo me with science   Aug-17-11 09:08 AM   #43 
  - Oh, wow, like that's going to help.  closeupready   Aug-17-11 07:09 AM   #11 
  - Oh, good!  Loge23   Aug-17-11 07:32 AM   #13 
  - HA!  SammyWinstonJack   Aug-17-11 08:26 AM   #26 
  - The two Obama's  Javaman   Aug-17-11 09:28 AM   #48 
  - They are not going to fund anything you propose. Go negative and kick the shit out of them.  onehandle   Aug-17-11 07:54 AM   #16 
  - Obama is on the campaign trail  FreeBillClinton   Aug-17-11 08:11 AM   #18 
  - The multiple personality syndrome is in play here again  mazzarro   Aug-17-11 10:57 AM   #70 
  - 2 yrs 2 late  ChairmanAgnostic   Aug-17-11 08:16 AM   #20 
  - I will listen until he says "shared sacrifice"  Doctor_J   Aug-17-11 08:18 AM   #21 
  - Why Doesn't Obama Use the Bully Pulpit?!?!!!11!  MineralMan   Aug-17-11 08:22 AM   #22 
  - The "people in chairs" have nothing better to do today  Kolesar   Aug-17-11 08:23 AM   #24 
  - Well, I"m tired of it. Trashing a speech and proposal that hasn't  MineralMan   Aug-17-11 08:27 AM   #27 
  - Well I'm tired of people supporting Republican policies.  boston bean   Aug-17-11 08:41 AM   #29 
  - Much seems obvious to me.  MineralMan   Aug-17-11 08:45 AM   #33 
     - you are always deferring, then when the shit hits the fan you got nothing to add, except maybe  boston bean   Aug-17-11 09:18 AM   #46 
     - Well stated  Bluenorthwest   Aug-17-11 09:53 AM   #55 
     - That about sums that poster up, yes  Occulus   Aug-17-11 10:51 AM   #63 
     - Precisely.  U4ikLefty   Aug-17-11 02:17 PM   #86 
     - Stop telling the truth!  Little Star   Aug-17-11 06:25 PM   #97 
     - More tax cuts. That is a turn-off for me already.  JDPriestly   Aug-17-11 12:34 PM   #78 
  - So, if that's how you feel, move on.  closeupready   Aug-17-11 08:43 AM   #31 
  - Thanks for the advice. I'll pass on that, thanks.  MineralMan   Aug-17-11 08:46 AM   #34 
     - I'll continue to do so as long as you post your complaints about DU publicly.  closeupready   Aug-17-11 08:50 AM   # 
     - I have no doubt that you will.  MineralMan   Aug-17-11 08:58 AM   #41 
     - There's going to be tax cuts for corporations!  a simple pattern   Aug-17-11 10:53 AM   #66 
  - If you keep crying wolf eventually no one believes you!!! ...  Little Star   Aug-17-11 08:50 AM   #35 
  - That reads like a post on Governor Kasich's facebook page  Kolesar   Aug-17-11 08:53 AM   #37 
     - ppfffffffftttttt.  Little Star   Aug-17-11 06:28 PM   #98 
  - THey're not bashing the proposal. They're bashing the obama record of saying "any bill I sign must  GOTV   Aug-17-11 08:50 AM   #36 
  - The problem is not that the proposal has not even been  coalition_unwilling   Aug-17-11 09:33 AM   #50 
  - Prior acts, MM.  Occulus   Aug-17-11 11:07 AM   #72 
  - It seems like you have nothing to do today  _ed_   Aug-17-11 11:08 AM   #73 
     - ^from the script of Pee Wee's Big Adventure eom  Kolesar   Aug-17-11 03:25 PM   #94 
  - Yeah, that's quite some bully pulpit.  woo me with science   Aug-17-11 09:03 AM   #42 
     - +10000000 n/t  Donnachaidh   Aug-17-11 02:43 PM   #90 
  - Let me guess... shared sacrifice... tax cuts on the corporations... outsourcing...  Fearless   Aug-17-11 08:44 AM   #32 
  - You missed "compromise" because we haven't given up enough to the GOP yet  GOTV   Aug-17-11 08:53 AM   #38 
  - They'll have us starving to death and enslaved to corporations soon enough.  Fearless   Aug-17-11 08:58 AM   #40 
  - You missed the article, evidently.  Akoto   Aug-17-11 10:52 AM   #64 
  - We're going on the quality of meat we've been fed so far.  Fearless   Aug-17-11 12:40 PM   #79 
  - But I thought one of the main complaints was that you had only gotten a few bones and no meat n/t  Bodhi BloodWave   Aug-17-11 08:35 PM   #102 
  - The infrastructure bank is right off the DLC website.  No Elephants   Aug-17-11 02:40 PM   #87 
  - We should be taxing outsourced jobs because this is a direct assault on America!  think   Aug-17-11 12:32 PM   #77 
  - +1  Fearless   Aug-17-11 12:43 PM   #81 
  - trade agreements, extending tax cuts, Gitmo, Iraq,  ChairmanAgnostic   Aug-18-11 09:31 AM   #114 
  - in which he announces all the new ideas he will drop when he politely steps ...  GOTV   Aug-17-11 09:15 AM   #45 
  - Finally. eom  tawadi   Aug-17-11 09:27 AM   #47 
  - Finally, what?  Javaman   Aug-17-11 09:30 AM   #49 
     - Hopefully it's more than rhetoric  tawadi   Aug-17-11 09:43 AM   #52 
        - you know what they say about hope right?  Javaman   Aug-17-11 09:45 AM   #53 
  - Another speech?  Beacool   Aug-17-11 09:42 AM   #51 
  - yup, yet another speech.  Javaman   Aug-17-11 09:49 AM   #54 
  - That's a great movie that still touches people.  Beacool   Aug-17-11 10:47 AM   #62 
  - Yep, another speech. Legislating is beyond his power, so, as people have begged time and again ...  Akoto   Aug-17-11 10:55 AM   #68 
  - Eliminate the H1B visa program  RussBLib   Aug-17-11 10:04 AM   #56 
  - Tax cuts.... Yeah that's been working swell so far Obama. nt  obxhead   Aug-17-11 10:14 AM   #57 
  - Clue: Stop Coddling the Wealthy Obama  fascisthunter   Aug-17-11 10:25 AM   #59 
  - What is needed  desertrat777   Aug-17-11 10:54 AM   #67 
  - Another speech!  _ed_   Aug-17-11 11:06 AM   #71 
  - Obama proposes and then disposes of what he proposed.  JDPriestly   Aug-17-11 12:21 PM   #74 
  - Now that was funny! Also true.  Little Star   Aug-17-11 06:31 PM   #99 
  - Good speeches, but little action  udbcrzy2   Aug-17-11 12:41 PM   #80 
  - I don't think all of them are bought and paid for  Liberalynn   Aug-17-11 02:50 PM   #92 
  - Menawhile, the House Tea Party/Republican leadership has yet to do anything about jobs. n/t  alp227   Aug-17-11 12:52 PM   #83 
  - Obama needs to watch this. WE ALL need to watch this. It still has less than 2000 views.  truthisfreedom   Aug-17-11 01:03 PM   #84 
  - At least his increasing talk about jobs will increase the number of people employed  DJ13   Aug-17-11 01:04 PM   #85 
  - good one! Also true  Little Star   Aug-17-11 06:32 PM   #100 
  - Truth hurts  unionworks   Aug-17-11 02:43 PM   #89 
  - DLC founder, Al From, circa 2009, on the need for an infrastructure bank  No Elephants   Aug-17-11 02:49 PM   #91 
  - So a big speech is coming, but it will have to wait till after vacation?  Imajika   Aug-17-11 02:59 PM   #93 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-17-11 03:42 PM   #95 
  - What does your post have to do with this thread?  Kingofalldems   Aug-17-11 04:07 PM   #96 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-17-11 08:52 PM   #103 
     - You keep coming back. How many times now?  Kingofalldems   Aug-18-11 07:35 AM   #107 
  - Good to be the King. n/t  Hotler   Aug-17-11 07:46 PM   #101 
  - He should slam Republicans for blocking good legislation  Shaundra   Aug-18-11 07:56 AM   #110 
  - "Don't take off your shoes...Jobs is on the way!"  Hubert Flottz   Aug-18-11 09:37 AM   #115 
  - A speech?  Broderick   Aug-18-11 10:40 AM   #117 
  - LOL. nt  Romulox   Aug-18-11 12:35 PM   #120 

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