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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:21 PM
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46. The second point is a long process
But they have been working on it for a long time now. Things are coming to a head pretty quick especially since the loss of overtime bill is close to becoming effective. In addition, the union strike settlements have only gained protection for current workers. They have had to give in on any protection for new workers.

The courts are turning away worker rights suits and big corporations are winning bills which protect them from litigation. The decent wage for a lower income worker is very much in danger.

I have to disagree with you about the main reason people will not stop shopping at Walmart. The disinterest is one part, but the other main reason is that we are in an inflationary period (even though BushCo tries to tell us we are not) and more people have to shop at WalMart just to make the paycheck stretch farther.

What is even more disheartening is that more and more Dollar stores are popping up all over the place for people who think WalMart prices are too high.
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  -Disdain for Wal-Mart pulls neighbors together | Denver Post DinoBoy  Apr-18-04 11:34 AM   #0 
  - I hate Walmart too.  mirandawright   Apr-18-04 11:39 AM   #1 
  - Give me Meijers. Great products, low prices, union work force.  SharonAnn   Apr-18-04 04:25 PM   #24 
  - The citizens of Inglewood, CA just blocked WalMart from  SemperEadem   Apr-18-04 06:17 PM   #45 
  - Awesome!  GOPBasher   Apr-18-04 11:39 AM   #2 
  - The strong-spined people of Inglewood California did it successfully.  calimary   Apr-18-04 12:05 PM   #10 
     - just lost that battle in Palm Springs  mitchtv   Apr-18-04 01:20 PM   #14 
  - Way cool!  kalian   Apr-18-04 11:41 AM   #3 
  - Oppose Wal-Mart if you like paying too much  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 11:42 AM   #4 
  - Those extra 60 cents per can...  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-18-04 11:51 AM   #6 
  - you will pay the difference in taxes  mitchtv   Apr-18-04 01:17 PM   #13 
     - and food stamps  goddess40   Apr-18-04 04:19 PM   #23 
  - Well it's a little more complicated than that  DinoBoy   Apr-18-04 11:52 AM   #7 
  - Add to that...  Hand   Apr-18-04 12:56 PM   #12 
  - And there is competition with the 3 or 4 local stores vs 1 walmart  LiberalFighter   Apr-18-04 03:35 PM   #19 
  - Keep shopping Wal-Mart if you like the destruction of the middle class..  Jack The Tab   Apr-18-04 11:57 AM   #9 
  - But isn't the tradeoff all the same?  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 03:22 PM   #18 
     - No  DinoBoy   Apr-18-04 04:52 PM   #29 
     - I worked for Wal-mart for over a year, my dad did for 7 years.  Tansy_Gold   Apr-18-04 05:29 PM   #35 
     - Tansy, Wal-Mart doesn't have a "purchasing office" in China  jmowreader   Apr-18-04 07:00 PM   #50 
        - My Chinese is limited (okay, non-existent) and when I posted I. . . .  Tansy_Gold   Apr-18-04 07:34 PM   #52 
     - everyone is a sucker once  SemperEadem   Apr-18-04 06:25 PM   #47 
     - There are other societal costs, as well.  missingthebigdog   Apr-18-04 06:34 PM   #48 
  - The employees?  janeaustin   Apr-18-04 01:37 PM   #16 
  - You don't get it, do you Pyrogen???  Skittles   Apr-18-04 04:28 PM   #25 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-04 09:56 PM   #57 
        - you don't get it  Skittles   Apr-18-04 10:07 PM   #59 
        - I'm so sorry you have such little faith in people's  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 10:20 PM   #61 
           - Tommyrot!!  revcarol   Apr-18-04 10:34 PM   #64 
           - LOL  Skittles   Apr-18-04 10:38 PM   #66 
              - So tell us why .....  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 10:47 PM   #67 
                 - listen pyro  Skittles   Apr-18-04 10:50 PM   #69 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-04 10:59 PM   #73 
                    - you don't seem to understand  Skittles   Apr-18-04 11:04 PM   #76 
                 - Nobody here wants to "force" people to shop anywhere...  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-18-04 10:55 PM   #71 
                 - it's sad, isn't it?  Skittles   Apr-18-04 10:58 PM   #72 
                 - For poor people, it truly IS the bottom line that counts.  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 11:06 PM   #78 
                 - Don't EVEN begin to tell ME, US in the DU, about POOR PEOPLE  Skittles   Apr-18-04 11:14 PM   #82 
                    - You are great with platitudes, Skittles. Now tell me what you've observed  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 11:18 PM   #83 
                       - Oh, man. You are not wise to challenge Skittles.  Zhade   Apr-19-04 03:23 AM   #94 
                          - Sorry, just proclaiming that one's goodness  Pyrogen   Apr-19-04 07:00 AM   #98 
                             - substance  Skittles   Apr-19-04 07:51 AM   #104 
                             - Like I said - he wasn't wise.  Zhade   Apr-19-04 02:00 PM   #108 
                                - Tombstoned, but not removed  Tansy_Gold   Apr-19-04 02:12 PM   #110 
                                   - I think it's a great idea. Leave their swill up.  Zhade   Apr-19-04 02:29 PM   #111 
                 - It's the same sort of complacency  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:13 AM   #86 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-04 11:03 PM   #75 
                    - DEAR GOD  Skittles   Apr-18-04 11:05 PM   #77 
                    - Since most sheeple like yourself go for "the bottom line", here's a hint.  Zhade   Apr-19-04 03:25 AM   #95 
                    - Fine, save your 60 cents.  Seldona   Apr-19-04 04:57 AM   #96 
                 - Let me tell you a thing or two about choice, pyrogen  Tansy_Gold   Apr-18-04 11:00 PM   #74 
                    - LOL.....................TANSY  Skittles   Apr-18-04 11:07 PM   #79 
                    - So you are saying that Wal-Mart uses 'loss-leaders'  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 11:13 PM   #81 
                       - No, after they buy their big bargain groceries  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:29 AM   #87 
                          - Nope. Same name brands. Same items.  Pyrogen   Apr-19-04 07:06 AM   #99 
                             - No...not all the same brands.  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:49 PM   #106 
        - They're becoming fewer and farther between...  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-18-04 10:50 PM   #70 
        - By that logic, we should have protected blacksmiths and livery stables  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 11:26 PM   #84 
           - This is entirely different...  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:09 AM   #85 
              - Your argument ignores market forces  Pyrogen   Apr-19-04 06:54 AM   #97 
                 - Hmmmm...........  Tansy_Gold   Apr-19-04 07:50 AM   #103 
                 - Slavery is a cost-efficient business practice, isn't it?  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:20 PM   #105 
        - Where will the employee go when Wal-Mart has closed down stores?  Zhade   Apr-19-04 03:19 AM   #93 
  - We need these signs that replace 'Wal-Mart' with 'Bush'  dArKeR   Apr-18-04 11:44 AM   #5 
  - Walmart Gave Up on Alameda Square Location  otohara   Apr-18-04 11:55 AM   #8 
  - The WalMart rep in the article  paulk   Apr-18-04 12:34 PM   #11 
  - walmart was also stopped in  rchsod   Apr-18-04 01:22 PM   #15 
  - This is my neighborhood  mountainvue   Apr-18-04 03:09 PM   #17 
  - The rumor mill has it  paulk   Apr-18-04 04:38 PM   #27 
     - My family has lived in this area  Roon   Apr-18-04 04:53 PM   #30 
     - It has  mountainvue   Apr-18-04 10:28 PM   #63 
     - Whomever  mountainvue   Apr-18-04 10:24 PM   #62 
  - Here are some price comparisons......Take a look  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 03:45 PM   #20 
  - You don't get it  alarimer   Apr-18-04 03:52 PM   #21 
  - Did you read my post?  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 04:13 PM   #22 
  - They are artificial because they use slave labor  Robbien   Apr-18-04 04:29 PM   #26 
     - So where would your so-called 'slaves'  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 04:48 PM   #28 
        - If the trade agreements were fair  Robbien   Apr-18-04 04:58 PM   #31 
        - I wonder why the right wingers are pushing Wal-Mart so hard  Robbien   Apr-18-04 05:07 PM   #32 
        - We're still fighting over slavery...  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:32 AM   #88 
        - Many of those slaves around the world  Tansy_Gold   Apr-18-04 05:50 PM   #38 
        - Nickel and Dimed  alarimer   Apr-18-04 06:17 PM   #44 
           - Nickel and Dimed  Tansy_Gold   Apr-18-04 07:41 PM   #53 
        - explain why Walmart won't match union wages and benefits...  cap   Apr-18-04 06:12 PM   #42 
           - Uh...could it be because then they'd have to raise prices?  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 09:45 PM   #55 
              - Gee, maybe you're starting to catch on...  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:37 AM   #89 
                 - But then the very effective CEOs might go elsewhere if you cut  Pyrogen   Apr-19-04 07:11 AM   #100 
  - Hey!  PassingFair   Apr-18-04 10:14 PM   #60 
  - you're wasting your time alarimer  Skittles   Apr-18-04 11:08 PM   #80 
  - Those lower prices are meant to destroy the competition  0rganism   Apr-18-04 05:08 PM   #33 
  - As I have said in at least two other posts.....  Pyrogen   Apr-18-04 10:01 PM   #58 
     - They'll probably go the way of Zayre  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 01:40 AM   #90 
     - Zayre and Ames were the victims of market forces.  Pyrogen   Apr-19-04 07:16 AM   #101 
        - Exactly...Who's meddling?  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 02:00 PM   #107 
     - And you've missed the point more than twice.  0rganism   Apr-19-04 02:44 AM   #92 
        - Have you ever personally observed Wal-Mart raising their prices  Pyrogen   Apr-19-04 07:18 AM   #102 
           - They won't do that until they've monopolized the business  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-19-04 02:06 PM   #109 
  - Learn to be a little creative  hippywife   Apr-18-04 06:57 PM   #49 
  - Something you may want to consider, Pyrogen  jmowreader   Apr-18-04 07:20 PM   #51 
  - Here are some things that Wal-Mart routinely does to its employees.  Pattib   Apr-18-04 09:52 PM   #56 
     - Here's how they do it, pattib  Tansy_Gold   Apr-18-04 10:48 PM   #68 
  - So what's what's being said is.......  Overkil   Apr-18-04 05:27 PM   #34 
  - Try reading the thread  Robbien   Apr-18-04 05:31 PM   #36 
  - I read through it all......  Overkil   Apr-18-04 05:40 PM   #37 
     - Okay, I will answer seriously  Robbien   Apr-18-04 05:51 PM   #39 
        - Very well said.......  Overkil   Apr-18-04 06:03 PM   #40 
        - The second point is a long process  Robbien   Apr-18-04 06:21 PM   #46 
        - The slaves at Walmart are forced to shop at Walmart;  dand   Apr-18-04 06:10 PM   #41 
  - in small towns, people don't have an option  cap   Apr-18-04 06:13 PM   #43 
  - Some people do NOT understand what harm a monopoly causes.  happyslug   Apr-18-04 09:44 PM   #54 
  - Also People do not know what they are paying for.  happyslug   Apr-18-04 10:37 PM   #65 
  - I worked at Wallyworld for 2 years,  Solon   Apr-19-04 02:30 AM   #91 
  - Trying to connect the dots for Pyrogen is wasted effort. He'll ignore  Aristus   Apr-19-04 02:44 PM   #112 
     - Pyrogen is no longer with us.  Bridget Burke   Apr-19-04 03:03 PM   #113 
        - Yeah, but he might still be lurking, and if that's the case, Pyrogen,  Aristus   Apr-19-04 03:54 PM   #114 
 

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