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Sat Jul-23-11 11:43 AM
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Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 11:46 AM by muriel_volestrangler
Norwegian Killer Linked to Tea Party and EDL Anders Behring Breivik posted links to the Atlas Shrugs website of the Tea Party’s Pamela Geller. Here you can see him under the name of Anders Behring (his middle name) posting links to Geller’s “Atlas Shrugs” site. That cache page is bing translated from Norwegian. http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/07/norwegia... / On edit: Ooops, I thought you meant the Pamela Geller 'Atlas Shrugs' anti-Muslim website, rather than the Rand 'Shrugged' novel. Unclear if he was a Rand fan - she's not well known in Europe generally, but he did read people like Geller and Pipes, so might have picked it up from there.
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| -Norway Horror: 80 Die In Camp Shooting, 7 In Blast |
Purveyor |
Jul-22-11 09:08 PM |
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WTF?! How much ammo did he have? nt |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Jul-22-11 09:09 PM |
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I had read one report earlier that he had been shooting kids for two hours before |
snagglepuss |
Jul-22-11 09:15 PM |
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I read that he had tracked them down. He knew the island as he |
iwishiwas |
Jul-22-11 09:21 PM |
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More detailed article by NILS MYKLEBOST on Globe & Mail here... |
Purveyor |
Jul-22-11 09:11 PM |
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Utter sadness. nt |
coffeenap |
Jul-22-11 09:13 PM |
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Good fucking god. |
geckosfeet |
Jul-22-11 09:20 PM |
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At least 80! Horrendous....my heart goes out to the families. n/t |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-22-11 09:23 PM |
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This breaks my heart. Those poor families. |
Ilsa |
Jul-22-11 09:26 PM |
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This is truly horrible |
kwassa |
Jul-22-11 09:27 PM |
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It's apparently quite easy if you are a RWer full of hate. |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-22-11 10:12 PM |
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Didn't take you long. |
emilyg |
Jul-23-11 01:23 AM |
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??? What is that supposed to mean? |
panzerfaust |
Jul-23-11 05:20 AM |
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Ummm, "potential murderer"? |
PavePusher |
Jul-23-11 04:39 PM |
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Mother of God that's too much to bear. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 09:28 PM |
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Yes it is. n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Jul-22-11 09:33 PM |
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never mind they revised the article |
mucifer |
Jul-22-11 09:31 PM |
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ny times & cnn say 80 |
RamboLiberal |
Jul-22-11 09:37 PM |
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Norway has about one fiftieth the population of the U.S. |
daleo |
Jul-22-11 09:32 PM |
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Holy shit! How tragic! |
Rhiannon12866 |
Jul-22-11 09:40 PM |
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And what will be the world's response? |
Swede Atlanta |
Jul-22-11 09:56 PM |
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Bomb Norway? |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jul-22-11 10:22 PM |
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Freeperville was on a full on Islam hate-fest all day until the identity of the shooter was |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Jul-22-11 10:00 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-22-11 10:02 PM |
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No he is not |
Cal Carpenter |
Jul-22-11 10:13 PM |
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On his FB page he self identifies as a Conservative Christian. nt |
jwirr |
Jul-22-11 11:08 PM |
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I've read the FB page appears to be a fake |
AllyCat |
Jul-23-11 12:13 AM |
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Well I think it is a mistake to think most Europeans do not speak |
jwirr |
Jul-23-11 01:09 AM |
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here is another take, probably the most accurate which is |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 01:43 AM |
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That was obviously written before anything was known about the man, and seems pretty useless now |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-23-11 02:40 AM |
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He had right- wing Christian fundamentalist orientation |
dipsydoodle |
Jul-23-11 03:17 AM |
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I can confirm that most norwegians have excellent education and |
Jemmons |
Jul-23-11 03:07 AM |
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I'm not saying Europeans don't speak English. I'm saying that it does seem |
AllyCat |
Jul-23-11 12:00 PM |
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Yes, it was English (it's been removed). |
boppers |
Jul-23-11 02:43 AM |
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Most of my Scandinavian friends on FB use English on their page |
Lorien |
Jul-23-11 11:45 AM |
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Okay, that makes sense. I have friends in other countries too and their pages |
AllyCat |
Jul-23-11 12:03 PM |
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He's just as much a Muslim as Obama is!11!!!111!! |
krispos42 |
Jul-23-11 02:22 AM |
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IIRC his FB page said he was christian. |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-22-11 10:14 PM |
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You forgot the sarcasm tag, right? |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Jul-22-11 10:15 PM |
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A blue-eyed, blonde-haired, Conservative Christian Muslim |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jul-22-11 10:30 PM |
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He probably werent born in |
flying rabbit |
Jul-23-11 03:50 AM |
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So was DU, don't pretend some here aren't just like them unfortunately |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jul-22-11 10:23 PM |
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You're right. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Jul-22-11 10:32 PM |
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but the old adage holds, Truth cannot lace its boots before the lies circle the globe |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jul-22-11 10:35 PM |
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The first article out of Norway suggested that it was either about the |
jwirr |
Jul-22-11 11:11 PM |
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Yes, that was indeed the first way of groundless speculation |
Alamuti Lotus |
Jul-23-11 12:50 AM |
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They've now entered the denial phase. |
reformist2 |
Jul-22-11 10:41 PM |
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Freeperville and DU both. |
harmonicon |
Jul-22-11 10:54 PM |
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both are full of very narrow minded people... |
IamK |
Jul-23-11 05:51 AM |
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So was Democratic Underground. |
Nostradammit |
Jul-23-11 02:16 AM |
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It is a very sad day. |
Hugin |
Jul-22-11 10:02 PM |
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Biggest serial killer of all time |
pettypace |
Jul-22-11 10:08 PM |
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I doubt those ties are there... |
Adsos Letter |
Jul-22-11 10:21 PM |
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Didn't Norway just recognize the Palestinians? That would no doubt |
jwirr |
Jul-22-11 11:15 PM |
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Ummm...No |
Speaker |
Jul-23-11 09:29 AM |
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I am speechless! My sympathy goes out to the Norwegians who have lost so much! |
Yon_Yonson |
Jul-22-11 10:12 PM |
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Horrifying and sick beyond belief. |
Raschel |
Jul-22-11 10:13 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-22-11 10:19 PM |
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When do we stop treating these shootings as "isolated"? |
reformist2 |
Jul-22-11 10:35 PM |
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Dexter: I am hooked on the show via Netflix - he would know how to handle this guy! nt |
Lucky Luciano |
Jul-22-11 10:37 PM |
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the shooter is a Dexter fan |
reorg |
Jul-22-11 10:43 PM |
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HEAD SHOTS. Was he an actor? |
aquart |
Jul-22-11 10:40 PM |
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He listed himself as a director on his FB page. |
jwirr |
Jul-22-11 11:18 PM |
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Link Outlining Social Networking Of Killer |
DallasNE |
Jul-22-11 11:07 PM |
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Thank you. The shooter clearly is insane and a fascist. |
Octafish |
Jul-22-11 11:44 PM |
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Right-wing extremism IS the problem... |
AntiFascist |
Jul-23-11 12:36 AM |
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in this case, in U.S. politics, and in Islamist terrorism...true in all cases |
anarch |
Jul-23-11 01:52 AM |
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Depends On What You Mean By Organized |
DallasNE |
Jul-23-11 02:06 AM |
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This guy apparently had some rather "deep" connections... |
AntiFascist |
Jul-23-11 01:23 PM |
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Blond, blue-eyed Norwegian?! |
KamaAina |
Jul-22-11 11:37 PM |
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Clearly a Godless Progressive European Socialist. |
ProDem4 |
Jul-23-11 12:12 AM |
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It's time to round up all all the blue-eyes and interrogate them at |
24601 |
Jul-23-11 08:30 AM |
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A gap is one thing. |
buckrogers1965 |
Jul-23-11 10:56 PM |
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the youth wing of the ruling Labour Party. |
esau |
Jul-22-11 11:58 PM |
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I do not believe in the death penalty, but if these were indeed the victims, |
AllyCat |
Jul-23-11 12:15 AM |
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yep. going after the future is what he was doing - what a coward and devil. |
Divine Discontent |
Jul-23-11 02:10 AM |
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That's horrible! |
Shining Jack |
Jul-23-11 12:00 AM |
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K/R .... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:04 AM |
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My deepest sympathies to the victims and their families. |
AllyCat |
Jul-23-11 12:11 AM |
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... a gunman stalked youths at an island summer camp for young members of the governing Labor Party |
struggle4progress |
Jul-23-11 12:21 AM |
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... According to Norwegian TV2's sources, the suspect belonged to right-extremist groups in eastern |
struggle4progress |
Jul-23-11 12:23 AM |
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there is no privately owned automatic weapons in Norway unless |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 01:35 AM |
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never mind! |
krispos42 |
Jul-23-11 02:29 AM |
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... police said the suspect had used “a machine pistol” in the attack, but declined to provide |
struggle4progress |
Jul-23-11 03:58 AM |
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machine pistol is the European term for |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 06:45 PM |
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Yes. But no mention by AP of his alleged "right-extremist groups" relations. |
Ghost Dog |
Jul-23-11 02:47 AM |
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NYT covered it. “What we know is that he is right-wing and a Christian fundamentalist.” |
pampango |
Jul-23-11 05:29 AM |
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Well, almost. (Same as is being quoted here in Spain). But, still, |
Ghost Dog |
Jul-23-11 08:24 AM |
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An aerial view of Utoya Island |
struggle4progress |
Jul-23-11 12:26 AM |
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Another thing why come we don't have any women serial killers? |
pettypace |
Jul-23-11 12:33 AM |
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That's just the patriarchy keeping them down. |
enki23 |
Jul-23-11 12:42 AM |
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Charlize Theron won an oscar for playing one |
Recursion |
Jul-23-11 01:44 AM |
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Aside from oh, the most prolific serial killer in history? |
boppers |
Jul-23-11 02:53 AM |
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Sheesh. Horrifying. The population of Norway is small. |
caseymoz |
Jul-23-11 01:06 AM |
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9th removed |
PatrynXX |
Jul-23-11 01:32 AM |
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Xtian Religious FUNDY... -91 dead now |
JCMach1 |
Jul-23-11 02:28 AM |
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People like this are why I support execution |
panzerfaust |
Jul-23-11 05:04 AM |
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Even if you don't life in prison would seem to be in-order... |
JCMach1 |
Jul-23-11 09:38 AM |
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Wikipedia says he was a farmer, which means he had access to fertilizer. |
krispos42 |
Jul-23-11 02:30 AM |
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Norway has no life sentence |
Search and Destroy |
Jul-23-11 02:49 AM |
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I don't know about Norway, but I know that in some countries |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Jul-23-11 02:56 AM |
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That's right, life in Norway is 21 years but we can hold people indefinately nt |
Lars77 |
Jul-23-11 05:37 AM |
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His shooting spree went on for at least an hour. Those poor children. |
Glimmer of Hope |
Jul-23-11 04:10 AM |
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The latest is that the police suspect there may have been a 2nd shooter on the island. |
Lars77 |
Jul-23-11 05:33 AM |
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Thanks for the updates. Thinking about you all and so sorry this had to happen. nt |
cbdo2007 |
Jul-23-11 08:00 AM |
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My thoughts on what happened so far. |
Lars77 |
Jul-23-11 05:48 AM |
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Bit more info on the guy |
Lars77 |
Jul-23-11 06:31 AM |
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"Vienna school of thought" may refer to the Gates of Vienna blog |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-23-11 08:43 AM |
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A chiling photo |
Lars77 |
Jul-23-11 08:21 AM |
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Wow! scary. |
cbdo2007 |
Jul-23-11 08:53 AM |
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Many injured... |
CJvR |
Jul-23-11 08:35 AM |
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Norway suspect described as right-wing Christian; death toll hits 91 |
James48 |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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In the official news, this is now not a 'terrorist' incident. nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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What official news? |
CJvR |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Ours, not theirs. We only have left wing or muslim terrorists. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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which tells me we have Christian Fundamentalists in our media |
fascisthunter |
Jul-23-11 10:38 AM |
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If it had been a Muslim the title of the article would have included the word "terror" somehow.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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our media was THIRSTY for their islamic boogeyman |
Blue_Tires |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Yeah, that's exactly how they will spin it. |
alarimer |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Looks like the EU |
DonCoquixote |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Norway isn't in the EU |
Euromutt |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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It a member of the EFTA (European Free Trade Association) which joined the EU's Internal Market |
pampango |
Jul-23-11 09:55 AM |
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Norway doesn't have a 2nd Amendment.. |
Upton |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Norway has a gun homicide rate of 0.3 per 100,000 |
tabasco |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Thanks for the link. |
No Elephants |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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But Norway's total homicide rate is only 0.6 per 100,000 |
krispos42 |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Guns are involved in more than half the homicides in the U.S. |
tabasco |
Jul-23-11 12:18 PM |
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And they're involved in half the homicide of Norway, too |
krispos42 |
Jul-23-11 12:38 PM |
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No law works 100% and no law can prevent 100% of anything . Laws are about |
No Elephants |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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The real headline for the story could be "Nut gets Nutier in Norway and goes on rampage" |
hayrow |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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no... it should read: another Right Wing Christian Fundi Commits Terrorist Act |
fascisthunter |
Jul-23-11 10:42 AM |
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worst violence in Norway |
Enrique |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Thank You For Pointing That Out! |
left on green only |
Jul-24-11 02:11 AM |
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As I was saying, right wingnuts taught me to HATE Christian churches nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Most of those churches are "Christian" only in name |
Demeter |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Yep, well, I have Repukes to thank for my hatred of Christian churches nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Those church leaders and members are complicit |
Demeter |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Oh, no doubt about that. Christian churches in this country are guilty of committing evil nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-23-11 11:02 AM |
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I agree that most, if not all of the churches that have sold their souls to the RW |
No Elephants |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Yeah. They appear to tend to emphasise the message of the Old Testament |
Ghost Dog |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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But you know, the church leaders that compiled the Bible and omitted other books.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-23-11 11:05 AM |
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How do they claim to know so much? The crime happened on Friday - yesterday |
lunatica |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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You might expect the police to say less |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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What does being a Christian have to do with a shooting rampage at a youth camp? |
No Elephants |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Ah, his brand of Xianism isn't the REAL Xianism, sure... |
Bragi |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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A Christian is someone who tries to live as Christ did. I find no problem in that. |
No Elephants |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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A Christian should be someone who tries to live as Christ did would be more appropriate. |
rms013 |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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If they keep it to themselves... |
osteenq |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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Much as we commonly do using |
LanternWaste |
Jul-23-11 11:45 AM |
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The Tali-Born-Again aren't into Jesus. |
BiggJawn |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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What does being a Christian ..... |
rms013 |
Jul-23-11 09:43 AM |
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In case anyone thought it was just Islam. It's fundies. |
LetTimmySmoke |
Jul-23-11 09:44 AM |
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In case anyone thought it was just brown people. It's whites. |
LanternWaste |
Jul-23-11 11:46 AM |
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Norwegian shooter linked to right-wing extremism (Christian) |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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this is GLOBAL |
DonCoquixote |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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That's what it looks like to me |
fascisthunter |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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DonCoquixote, that's a bucket of truth! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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Time to start screening for teabaggers at airports. |
Pab Sungenis |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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I wonder if he read Atlas Shrugged. |
blueclown |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
#146 |
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Probably. And he was also a fan of Daniel Pipes. |
Ian David |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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Yes, that has been confirmed: |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-23-11 11:43 AM |
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I was pissed when SyFy canceled Stargate Universe, too. But not THAT pissed. n/t |
Ian David |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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Interesting how at least one Freeper claimed this guy could be one of their own... |
Melinda |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
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why am I not surprised? |
Suji to Seoul |
Jul-23-11 11:29 AM |
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they've been calling for 2nd amendment remedies since 2009. treasonous devils. |
Divine Discontent |
Jul-23-11 04:56 PM |
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Jihad groups did try to take credit |
treestar |
Jul-23-11 11:56 AM |
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A website tried to take credit. |
buckrogers1965 |
Jul-23-11 11:08 PM |
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Horrible. |
Quantess |
Jul-23-11 12:38 PM |
#160 |