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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:42 PM
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54. Yes, losing weight, regardless of how you do it, will have health benefits.
However, with going vegan (I never have), you lose weight without thinking about it. On Jenny Craig or any other weight loss diet, you can barely think of anything else, except, "I am not eating as much as I want."
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  -Eating Meat Linked To Disease, Report Says onehandle  Jul-19-11 07:50 AM   #0 
  - Consuming meat is like consuming alcohol: some consumption positive, too much is negative.  robcon   Jul-19-11 07:54 AM   #1 
  - "Don't over do it." n/t  PoliticAverse   Jul-19-11 11:34 AM   #30 
  - All things in moderation. n/t  fasttense   Jul-20-11 07:22 AM   #104 
  - Aha - that explains the MeatBaggers (R)  SpiralHawk   Jul-19-11 07:56 AM   #2 
  - Lady Gaga, is that you?  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:32 PM   #48 
  - Dr. John McDougall has show this evidence for more than 25 years.  daggahead   Jul-19-11 07:59 AM   #3 
  - Except the study isnt saying people should go "vegan and or vegetarian"  cstanleytech   Jul-19-11 08:14 AM   #7 
  - So the only options are eating an excessive amount of meat/dairy or none?  WatsonT   Jul-19-11 08:16 AM   #9 
  - For the High, Holy Church of the Great Vegan ...  earthside   Jul-19-11 08:49 AM   #12 
  - It sounds like they went to the effort to prove common sense  WatsonT   Jul-19-11 08:51 AM   #13 
  - since I went mostly vegan in March--  ginnyinWI   Jul-19-11 09:05 AM   #14 
  - I've heard a similar sales pitch on tv from jenny craig *grin*  cstanleytech   Jul-19-11 09:23 AM   #18 
  - Yes, losing weight, regardless of how you do it, will have health benefits.  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:42 PM   #54 
     - yes it's a lot easier than a diet.  ginnyinWI   Jul-19-11 03:35 PM   #63 
     - nice kitties  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 04:27 PM   #69 
     - After a Couple of Days I Would be Thinking About it All The Time  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 04:16 PM   #68 
     - You lose a taste for it, after awhile. I would gag if I tried to eat beef, which I gave up...  Honeycombe8   Jul-21-11 12:10 AM   #134 
     - +1 -- That's what "dieting" used to mean -- changing the food you eat --  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:21 PM   #85 
     - oh, bullshit.  kwassa   Jul-20-11 08:50 PM   #130 
  - You are not a vegan if you eat fish. Vegans do not eat any animal products.  RebelOne   Jul-19-11 01:11 PM   #42 
  - probably why they said "mostly vegan" don't you think? n/t  Scout   Jul-19-11 01:47 PM   #45 
  - that's why I said "mostly vegan". nt  ginnyinWI   Jul-19-11 03:28 PM   #62 
  - I find vegans break down, for the most part, into two groups.  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:39 PM   #53 
  - +1 -- Second group here --  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:22 PM   #86 
  - I've also lost weight in the past couple months since signing up for a CSA  Matariki   Jul-20-11 02:22 AM   #101 
  - You do not need animal protein to get B-12.  RebelOne   Jul-19-11 01:15 PM   #43 
     - You Need Either Animal Protein or a Big Factory Somewhere to Make It Artificially  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 04:08 PM   #66 
     - Apparently not.  The Traveler   Jul-19-11 05:40 PM   #72 
     - Ever been to India? nt  sudopod   Jul-20-11 11:02 PM   #132 
     - And all vegetables have protein -- the kind of protein your body needs ... !!  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:23 PM   #87 
     - So that kind of argues against the "natural" argument for veganism  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 08:28 AM   #112 
  - 'Everything in moderation" is so eighteenth century. Or, Ancient Greek  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:35 PM   #51 
  - No. But what the average uninformed American would call "moderation"  Schema Thing   Jul-19-11 08:54 PM   #78 
     - I would hope most people who are obese recognize that they are unhealthy  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 07:43 AM   #107 
        - I wasn't obese or even what most people would call overweight  Schema Thing   Jul-20-11 08:22 AM   #110 
           - Depends on the meat source and the quantity  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 08:27 AM   #111 
              - meh. It's ok. Not needed, but it probably won't hurt you. But it will kill the ocean  Schema Thing   Jul-20-11 10:18 AM   #118 
                 - Seems a bit hyperbolic to me  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 11:40 AM   #120 
                    - Then you didn't give it any real thought.  Schema Thing   Jul-20-11 08:29 PM   #129 
                       - Really . . . so eating farmed fish in moderation will literally kill the ocean  WatsonT   Jul-21-11 08:19 AM   #137 
  - Uh-oh. You gone and done it now.  Zorra   Jul-19-11 08:28 AM   #10 
  - You forgot  cstanleytech   Jul-19-11 09:26 AM   #20 
     - ...  Zorra   Jul-19-11 01:16 PM   #44 
  - Going vegan and or vegetarian  AlbertCat   Jul-19-11 10:07 AM   #24 
  - Well, it's certainly unnatural for omnivorous humans.  aquart   Jul-19-11 01:00 PM   #39 
  - delicate. You mean llike having the animal tortured and killed for you?  veganlush   Jul-19-11 11:01 PM   #82 
     - Slaughter houses will glass walls would help -- !!! :)  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:27 PM   #90 
     - Outrageous! I torture and murder the animal myself thank you very much  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 08:29 AM   #113 
     - delicate. Like not doing your own killing and butchering.  boppers   Jul-20-11 11:23 PM   #133 
  - Cave folks did not always have a dead mammoth handy.  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:46 PM   #55 
  - Depends On Where They Lived  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 06:13 PM   #75 
  - So then an omnivorous diet is the most natural  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 08:30 AM   #114 
  - Why would you think that eating PLANTS is the same as eating an animal?  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:25 PM   #88 
  - Former Meathead here, gone to the Vegans, and I'm Loving It.  byronius   Jul-19-11 10:13 AM   #26 
  - Tried it for 6 months myself and hated it.  FLPanhandle   Jul-19-11 11:52 AM   #32 
  - I imagine we take out of an experience what we want to...  LanternWaste   Jul-19-11 02:36 PM   #52 
     - And We Take Out of Food What Our Individual Bodies are Capable of Digesting  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 06:09 PM   #73 
        - I tried the vegetarian thing for about 6 months (not vegan)  FLPanhandle   Jul-19-11 07:40 PM   #77 
           - I smell BS  U4ikLefty   Jul-20-11 02:15 AM   #100 
              - You just don't like to face anything that conflicts with your agenda  FLPanhandle   Jul-20-11 05:22 AM   #103 
  - Same here. 2 months clean ;)  Schema Thing   Jul-19-11 09:04 PM   #79 
  - What moved you to do it?  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:32 PM   #92 
     - Hard to say...  Schema Thing   Jul-20-11 08:19 AM   #109 
  - Why did you do it?  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:28 PM   #91 
  - This Comedienne Sez:  TalkingDog   Jul-19-11 12:42 PM   #37 
  - I was with her till the last sentence. How does liking immigrants jibe with eliminating their jobs?  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:51 PM   #58 
  - Unusual when comedians get it so wrong ... what does she think cows eat?  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:35 PM   #93 
  - Hehe +1  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 08:31 AM   #115 
  - True --  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:19 PM   #84 
  - Hed: Eating meat linked to disease. Story: Eating too much meat linked to disease.  Brickbat   Jul-19-11 07:59 AM   #4 
  - Years ago, I heard that, in terms of total plate area, meat should be like a condiment.  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:48 PM   #56 
  - No ... problem isn't moderation -- it's animal eating ---  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:36 PM   #94 
  - Eat what you want  guardian   Jul-19-11 08:12 AM   #5 
  - Eating too much anything causes problems  WatsonT   Jul-19-11 08:14 AM   #6 
  - Exactly. nt  cstanleytech   Jul-19-11 08:15 AM   #8 
  - "allows that meat can be an important source of protein and vitamins when eaten in moderation"  FLPanhandle   Jul-19-11 08:46 AM   #11 
  - yeah it "allows" that it can be an important source  veganlush   Jul-19-11 09:14 AM   #16 
  - Right on cue.  FLPanhandle   Jul-19-11 09:26 AM   #19 
  - No you cannot get everything you need from a plant based diet.  RC   Jul-19-11 09:32 AM   #21 
  - Using facts with a committed vegan is like  WatsonT   Jul-19-11 12:17 PM   #36 
  - I've heard Seventh Day Adventists and others make the exact opposite statement about our teeth,  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 03:00 PM   #60 
  - We are neither. We are Apes.  RC   Jul-19-11 03:56 PM   #65 
     - Actually, we're rats  jmowreader   Jul-19-11 11:26 PM   #89 
  - Not true -- plants have the kind of protein that you need -- not animal protein ...  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:38 PM   #95 
     - Ever hear of B12?  RC   Jul-20-11 10:10 AM   #117 
  - You can get everything you need from a plant-based diet  AlbertCat   Jul-19-11 10:10 AM   #25 
  - Heh.  Brickbat   Jul-19-11 10:19 AM   #27 
  - See this post.  TalkingDog   Jul-19-11 12:45 PM   #38 
  - So? Things other than meat "can be" and are important sources of protein and vitamins.  No Elephants   Jul-19-11 02:56 PM   #59 
     - So what?  FLPanhandle   Jul-19-11 03:12 PM   #61 
  - Unless you are a body builder or a toddler,  veganlush   Jul-19-11 09:10 AM   #15 
  - hyperbole - it's what's for dinner!  Kali   Jul-19-11 11:48 AM   #31 
  - I'm Not Sure the "Complementary Protein" Thing Works for Everybody  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 01:09 PM   #40 
  - Dr. Neal Barnard says there are four foods with addictive qualities:  ginnyinWI   Jul-19-11 03:46 PM   #64 
     - water can be pretty damned addictive, too.  provis99   Jul-19-11 04:16 PM   #67 
     - My record for vegetarianism is 6 weeks.  wickerwoman   Jul-19-11 06:09 PM   #74 
     - So Do At Least 2 Neurotransmitters Produced When You Exercise  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 07:01 PM   #76 
     - Interesting ... think he forgot "salt" -- because salt is a large part of any animal's body....  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:42 PM   #96 
     - Americans seem even more addicted to cheese than meat  Mr. Sinister   Jul-20-11 06:44 PM   #128 
  - Vegan bodybuilders do exist.  flvegan   Jul-19-11 09:42 PM   #81 
  - Actually ruminants don't get all of those vitamins/proteins from the grass they eat  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 08:33 AM   #116 
  - That's why you avoid the meat that's green and fuzzy.  krispos42   Jul-19-11 09:20 AM   #17 
  - Anti-Inuit propaganda!  rayofreason   Jul-19-11 09:52 AM   #22 
  - Eating too much anything is bad for your health.  AlbertCat   Jul-19-11 10:05 AM   #23 
  - meat stinks......... nt  patrick t. cakes   Jul-19-11 10:44 AM   #28 
  - This just in - birth fatal.  sybylla   Jul-19-11 10:51 AM   #29 
  - Swiss Cuisine Has More Veggies Than South German Food  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 11:57 AM   #33 
     - As long as the only vegetables you want are cabbage and potatoes  WatsonT   Jul-19-11 12:16 PM   #35 
        - They Have Some Other Vegetables Too  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 01:11 PM   #41 
  - Unrec for Bunk Headline  AndyTiedye   Jul-19-11 12:06 PM   #34 
  - Reminds me - I've got to get those ribs on to cook - eom  lynne   Jul-19-11 02:01 PM   #46 
  - What kind of meat are people eating?  War Horse   Jul-19-11 02:28 PM   #47 
  - Soylent Green  sakabatou   Jul-19-11 02:34 PM   #50 
  - Well fuck. And I just had a good helping of brisket.  sakabatou   Jul-19-11 02:33 PM   #49 
  - russian proverb:  BOG PERSON   Jul-19-11 02:48 PM   #57 
  - Brilliant deduction: Eating too much of something is bad for your health.  Cool Logic   Jul-19-11 04:39 PM   #70 
  - I'm guessing that most people don't know how much is "too" much  Schema Thing   Jul-19-11 09:09 PM   #80 
  - My face when thread is hijacked by manly men feeling threatened by vegetarianism.  sudopod   Jul-19-11 05:16 PM   #71 
  - I'm amazed that any info got out at all -- considering what tight control corporations  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:44 PM   #97 
  - Most of the responses I've seen in that regard have been against  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 07:39 AM   #105 
     - And it makes you sooooo mad. XD nt  sudopod   Jul-20-11 10:20 AM   #119 
        - It's a bit obnoxious but doesn't really make me mad  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 11:42 AM   #121 
           - I'm not passing judgement, heh.  sudopod   Jul-20-11 11:56 AM   #122 
              - No, again, nobody is claiming vegans are oppressing them  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 02:28 PM   #123 
                 - The OP wasn't exactly a call to revolution.  sudopod   Jul-20-11 04:12 PM   #126 
                 - Not referring to the OP  WatsonT   Jul-21-11 08:16 AM   #135 
                    - I'm sorry if I got mixed up, this is clearly very important to you. nt  sudopod   Jul-21-11 10:35 AM   #138 
                 - Let me be obnoxious, then.  kwassa   Jul-20-11 09:01 PM   #131 
                    - See that is not obnoxious  WatsonT   Jul-21-11 08:18 AM   #136 
  - PLANTS are our nutrition, our medicines -- animal-eating is harming the planet ---  defendandprotect   Jul-19-11 11:16 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-20-11 12:59 AM   #98 
     - No use trying to reason with that poster.  Odin2005   Jul-20-11 01:05 AM   #99 
     - eh ... you're a little confused on that ---  defendandprotect   Jul-20-11 02:59 AM   #102 
        - What does the fact that they eat plants have to do with anything?  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 07:40 AM   #106 
           - Lost cause with that one..  X_Digger   Jul-20-11 02:43 PM   #124 
              - Monkeys even understand money:  WatsonT   Jul-20-11 03:15 PM   #125 
  - Teaching moderation and cooking skills is the key  Marrah_G   Jul-20-11 08:08 AM   #108 
  - This is very helpful, thanks...  killbotfactory   Jul-20-11 05:50 PM   #127 
 

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